Neil Blomkamp's Alien film a direct sequel to Aliens; disregards Alien 3/Resurrection

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i can't hate on alien 3, really. it looks nice and there isn't a lot that i thought was plain bad about the film. it was just a little too been-there-done-that and pretty damn mean at times.

i can hate on resurrection all day though. that was one steaming pile.

alien 3 sort of acts like its own fanfiction in a way, when it felt like the story would continue more closely with hicks, newt, torn-apart bishop, and ripley. so, i'm kind of okay with seeing it from a different angle. my biggest concern is that sigourney seems like she goes into crazy mode about the alien franchise and her ideas about ripley.
 
One thing should be made abundantly clear though. If they are doing this, Biehn needs to be in it.

and Blompkamp should bring his District 9 game, not whatever he worked with on that turd Elysium.
 
I haven't seen this many people get excited over watching a xenophobic grandma since Pauline Hanson tried to make her comeback into Australian parliament.
 
Flipyap said:
This news just makes me appreciate Creative Assembly's work even more. What a bunch of smart, handsome people.
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Totally. I'm not dissing the game at all; I just am so upset that once again it's a continuation of what ALIENS set in motion for the franchise and not ya know, the good movie which is Alien.
 
Ushojax said:
I hope so. I have no idea why anyone would care that shit films like Alien 3 are being ignored. Nobody is erasing them from existence, they are just acknowledging their shitness.

If only this had been done with Terminator :(
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True, although i'm satisfied with just Terminator 1,2 and 4.

No need to do any more sequels involving timetravel. More could be done for the Skynet war if they want to. I have no interest to see Genisys.
 
I thought Alien 3 was brilliant. Shouldn't have killed off Hicks though. Resurrection can go die in a fire though.

Looking forward to this.
 
I thInk James Cameron should get off his ass and fix the Alien franchise himself instead taking pot shots at the franchise from afar while procrastinating on script treatments for needless avatar sequels.
 
Gambit 1138 said:
I thInk James Cameron should get off his ass and fix the Alien franchise himself instead taking pot shots at the franchise from afar while procrastinating on script treatments for needless avatar sequels.
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Fox said no when he came to them with Alien 5. They went with AvP instead.
 
Holy shit yes, YES.

Telling a good history >>>> comic book-like obsession with continuity

Almost any other option that was conceptualized ended up being better than this steaming pile of feces that was Alien 3. Wooden planet and Earth's assault ideas were infinitely more interesting than the generic, unimaginative, souless Alien 3, I hope that Blomkamp rescues some of these ideas.
 
He didn't actually say Alien 3 and Resurrection would be ignored just that the new movie will feel like a continuation of Alien and Aliens.
 
Santar said:
He didn't actually say Alien 3 and Resurrection would be ignored just that the new movie will feel like a continuation of Alien and Aliens.
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Well if Hicks is in the movie then it would pretty much have to ignore them. Which is a good thing, Alien 3's story starts by retconning Aliens ending and planting two eggs on the Sulaco and then killing off two main characters within the first 5 minutes.

They don't have to address 3 and Resurrection at all, just pretend they never happened and carry on.
 
I wonder how they're going to explain discarding Alien 3 from the canon. I don't give a single fuck about Resurrection. But I liked Alien 3.

The weirdest aspect in here is whether Ripley would somehow go back to the state of mind she had at the end of Aliens. Because that was a very different character from what we saw in Alien 3.
 
Biehn has changed a lot, they'd need to do a lot of work on his face. Star Wars and now this, gonna be interesting to see how these actors hold up in their old roles...
 
Alien 3 was horrible from a CGI point of view and I didn't really like the finale, which just looked too weird with the camera from the Aliens perspective to work for me, but I really liked Ripleys story Arc and her end.
The premise of her being stuck on a monk prison planet was also pretty good. In the end, I like the movie more on paper than the actual movie though...

The premise for this one will be interesting. Why is Ripley confronted with the Alien again after such a long time? Why Hicks? Will it take place in an Alien/s setting, or are they trying something new - like Earth in a Blade Runner esque looking city full of civilians?
 
miladesn said:
Biehn has changed a lot, they'd need to do a lot of work on his face. Star Wars and now this, gonna be interesting to see how these actors hold up in their old roles...
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Well half his face is going to be acid scars so it's not a big deal.
 
I can't believe how badly ridley scott screwed up promtetheus.

He has sooo much good story to build upon, so much left to explore, and he managed to destroy it. Not just make a shit film, but actually destroy a lot of the Aliens History. Oh wow, the cool elephant aliens and just..big blue humans and its based upon ancient aliens WOW, thanks for the boring story ridley.

He had great actors, never bothered to use them, Instead viral videos were better.


Example Prometheus Speech

Hope Neil does a kick ass job.
 
Sure fundamentally the conceit of Alien3 of only Ripley surviving alienated a lot of people but it had other problems outside that. The characters were flat out unlikeable. Sure redemption of the sinners may have been a theme but when you dont care if the cast gets killed in this kind of film, thats a major problem. Sleeping with Charles Dance through solace and then him getting killed 5 minutes later? Were we supposed to be anything other than indifferent to that? Plus as a horror in its own right it wasnt that suspensful in terms of pace and not even the often touted Assembly Cut ('it makes it a much better film'!) can fix that. Artisically its not a bad movie but its just one theres no reason to revisit.

In terms of the conceit of Ripley being sole survivor it caused external issues in that if your aiming for a sombre, grim film thats fine but youve got to offer the audience some kind of hook to invest them and I think because all the investment in Aliens of caring for the characters that made it to the end was shat on by inserting a frame at the start and saying 'they died on their way back to their home planet' - why should I care about the events of this film since they meant squat? In life it certainly happens but narratively it is grossly unsatisfying. Its with some irony that now the events of Alien3 and Resurrection will mean squat and many on here are saying that people should care about that. Nope. I await this reboot of sorts with interest.
 
Ikael said:
Holy shit yes, YES.

Telling a good history >>>> comic book-like obsession with continuity

Almost any other option that was conceptualized ended up being better than this steaming pile of feces that was Alien 3. Wooden planet and Earth's assault ideas were infinitely more interesting than the generic, unimaginative, souless Alien 3, I hope that Blomkamp rescues some of these ideas.
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Wooden planet a good story? With the monks and shit? Oh boy...
 
DoDonGouki said:
ALIEN: CORR3CTION
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ALIEN: ISOLA....SH3N!
 
Ikael said:
Telling a good history >>>> comic book-like obsession with continuity
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A million times this.

LeeRoyBrown said:
I can't believe how badly ridley scott screwed up promtetheus.

He has sooo much good story to build upon, so much left to explore, and he managed to destroy it. Not just make a shit film, but actually destroy a lot of the Aliens History. Oh wow, the cool elephant aliens and just..big blue humans and its based upon ancient aliens WOW, thanks for the boring story ridley.

He had great actors, never bothered to use them, Instead viral videos were better.


Example Prometheus Speech

Hope Neil does a kick ass job.
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He could've executed it better, no doubt, but I honestly think that the very idea of a prequel is flawed.
The space jockey is cool because it's mysterious, the mystery of an ancient unknown race that got fucked by aliens is cooler than whatever story you can come up with (though again, you can sure do better than albino space jesus).
Same go with the xenomorphs, I don't need to know how they came to be, Alien told me everything I need to know about them - perfect organism, perfectly hostile, rape faces.
Done.

The less you know about them the scarier they are.
 
Chichikov said:
A million times this.


He could've executed it better, no doubt, but I honestly think that the very idea of a prequel is flawed.
The space jockey is cool because it's mysterious, the mystery of an ancient unknown race that got fucked by aliens is cooler than whatever story you can come up with (though again, you can sure do better than albino space jesus).
Same go with the xenomorphs, I don't need to know how they came to be, Alien told me everything I need to know about them - perfect organism, perfectly hostile, rape faces.
Done.

The less you know about them the scarier they are.
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Yup, exactly.

I love that speech though. Guy Pearce fucking killed it.
 
So...this Ripley went thru a wormhole into a parallel dimension where she and Hicks never encountered any more Xenomorph post Aliens until now?

WAT? After Prometheus surely nothing is sacred.
 
Its good news until you realize the person making that statement is the director of Elysium.

I hope they dont allow his Helena Bonham Carter (Copley) in the production.
 
I wonder what project Blomkamp would be writing/directing if Chappie was actually any good and he wasn't worried that his career was circling the drain?

Hmmm.
 
Busty said:
I wonder what project Blomkamp would be writing/directing if Chappie was actually any good and he wasn't worried that his career was circling the drain?

Hmmm.
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Probably wouldn't be any different. Blomkamp has long said Aliens is one of his favourite films. He's beyond hard over the prospect of this.

It really is Singer's Returns all over again.
 
Scullibundo said:
Probably wouldn't be any different. Blomkamp has long said Aliens is one of his favourite films. He's beyond hard over the prospect of this.

It really is Singer's Returns all over again.
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True, but the circumstances are different. Singer was in a position of power to leave Fox's X-Men and go to WB. There's no coincidence that Blomkamp made this deal before Chappie is released.

This is a man who said time and again that he would never direct 'in the studio system' as he had MRC self finance his last two films in Elysium and Chappie and QED (?) finance District 9 before that. In short, he was spoiled.

They indulged with a final cut and whatever resources (financial or otherwise) he needed, something 99% of directors will never experience. Elysium lost a ton of cash and now MRC are a (financial) shadow of their former selves.

Blomkamp has had 'three bites at the apple' and shat the bed the last two times and now he's going to really struggled (IMHO) to fit into the studio mentality at Fox given how resources were lavished on him before.

Providing of course that this film ever gets made.
 
Oddly enough, you know what's inconsequential to the Alien movie series? The aliens. It's pretty evident that the only thing people care about from this franchise is Ripley.

Anyway, good or bad, it's just as easy to write off this goof's movie as it is 3. Who cares if he says 3 didnt happen?
 
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