I like that the fact that they're making this film means Fox is basically telling Ridley that he can go fuck himself.
Finally, an intelligent decision by the company regarding the franchise!
And you better care about these British skin heads! I mean... they're all murderers and rapists, but c'mon, root for em. You got it in you, somewhere... Care about their lives.
Ridley Scott will be producing both this and Prometheus 2, I believe.
I don't think this is the "fuck you" you think this is. It's also still scheduled to come out AFTER Prometheus 2, isn't it?
Then once Alien 5 comes out, if its even halfway decent (not hard considering what has preceded it)
If Blomkamp is doing Superman Returns for the Alien franchise, how does he top this?
Your prognostications aside (plausible enough) - your parenthetical is pretty optimistic considering the last two shots at "making up" for Alien 3 didn't manage to hit Alien 3, and honestly, it's not all that high a bar.
Can't wait to read people's reactions when time travel or some such shit gets introduced.
Further to Devin's point about playing Exquisite Corpse - we've got an Old Ripley and an Old Hicks both obviously on some sort of suicide mission. So we're potentially going to end with a movie where Ripley kills herself ANYWAY for her own peace of mind and for the sake of humanity (Alien 3) And we've got her packed into a Xenomorph suit (somehow) which I'm guessing will enable her to be somehow superpowered or will lend her abilities she didn't have otherwise (Alien Resurrection)
Not that I'm at all a fan of Alien Resurrection - but isn't it more interesting to see if he can somehow continue from that film and somehow build himself a good movie, rather than pretend like those two movies never existed and make a sequel whose ultimate goal can never actually be realized? Because no matter how good this movie could possibly turn out - those other two movies will still exist. You can't make a movie with the goal of rewriting ACTUAL history unless you also happen to have a functioning time machine with you.
That's what all the C4 is for, I guess.
This is the best news I've heard in movies in a long time. I didn't even know such a thing was possible. I will be in the theater day one. I would never even watch a movie titled Alien 5 just like I have no desire to ever watch Alien resurrection.
Would love to see a Terminator that disregards all the Terminators after 3 too.
It's a story, not shit that actually happened.
We shouldn't live in a universe where a bad movie seals an entire movie series off,
I really don't get why people think Alien 3 was that bad.
I thought the setting was awesome, I thought the acting was amazing, the story was okay. Really the only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the alien itself. Everything else about the movie was fine.
Can't say I'm overly keen on this idea. It does seem like fanboy getting access to something he's dreamed about for years. I'd rather they just have went for something completely unrelated to the previous four. I fear we are going to be getting another Predators situation.
Awwwww yeaaah
Wonder what Fincher thinks? He probably doesn't give a fuck
Hell, a Predators situation is preferable. They at least went somewhere different and did something that didn't specifically tie back to the Predator/Predators continuity. A wink here and there, (Long Tall Sally, Dutch shout out) but Predators is a totally different animal than what Blomkamp is setting out to do.
I still remember that bullshit bait and switch they did with the Predator lasers in the trailers.
New Alien 3.Sooo... any guesses on a title?
Alien: Revelation
The 'Real' Alien 3
Aliened
I'm not talking about fictional continuities. The goal of this movie is to literally rewrite a history that can never be rewritten no matter how good the movie is. It's masturbational futility.
Bryan Singer knows this firsthand.
This doesn't even make any sense, especially in context of the Alien series, where Alien Resurrection followed Alien 3. People were hopeful/excited for that movie, too. Very much so. Superpowered clone-hybrid Ripley? Kickin ass & takin names? Swimming aliens? Holy shit, sign me up.
And then...
The whole point of the quote I reference is arguing that a bad movie DOESN'T seal a series off, especially one that can be as open as Alien is. So not only will this film NOT literally rewrite the history it wants to rewrite (it can only even exist in direct contrast to Alien 3, really, because the movie is always going to be connected to that one as its mulligan), but the purpose behind choosing to do so is ultimately unneccessary.
Especially considering he HAD an idea that didn't involve Ripley at all - which is maybe the most original thing an Alien sequel could BE at this point.
Heh, shit, I completely forgot about that.
That WAS pretty bullshit.
Superman Returns sucked because it was a bad movie
More specifically I would say a bad movie can seal great characters off and the actors who play them lose their performance
It's not rewriting history, it's providing an alternative one.
Hopefully this turns out more like Alien Isolation than Colonial Marines.
All characters will be played by Sharlto Copley.Played by sharlto copley
This seems like such an unnecessary minefield for Blomkamp to step into. This could tank his career.
Well, yeah. But it didn't do itself any favors with its premise. And that premise ended up working against the film, as well.
This doesn't make any more sense than the last time you said it. Die Hard 2 didn't seal off Die Hard 3. Temple of Doom didn't seal off Last Crusade. Hell, The Motion Picture didn't seal off Wrath of Khan. It sure as hell doesn't make an actor "Lose their performance" either. The performance you value and treasure still exists. It'll always exist. You can go back to it at any point. They were on that set, the camera captured their performance, you own the DVD/Blu-Ray. Which is why this:
Doesn't follow. You can't provide an alternate history with a movie. They're not gateways through the space-time continuum. They're just movies.
Again, to be clear - I obviously didn't like Alien Resurrection, and while I'm a bit (a lot) of an Alien 3 apologist, that film still isn't all that good, either, and it's not the idea that these "wouldn't count" that bugs me, because none of it "counts" - it's just the weird angle at which the movie is even being born. He had an original idea, and then abandoned it to attempt this weird, half-ass game of pretend that tries to distance itself from a movie that can never actually distance itself from that movie because it exists as an answer to it.
Like, he might as well straight up call it "Not-Alien-3" because good or bad, that's all it can be when starting from here.
That'd be somethin, wouldn't it? I know he plays games. It'd be interesting to see if he's played Isolation. But it seems pretty obvious he's leaning more ALIENS than anything.
Alien 3 wasn't even that bad. I liked how it ended the story, and it made sense that Hicks and Newt die. It was like "Ripley's fate is to suffer, as a result of the Xenomorph." It fit in with the dark tone set in the first film as well. I don't like that they're completely ignoring these movies. How do they even explain that? The others were a dream or something? And how will they explain Hicks and Ripley being like 30 years older? Hypersleep should keep them the same age. Weird concept.
Terminator Salvation did this by ignoring 3. Look how it turned out. :/
Also, Alien 3 is actually a pretty great movie. Especially the assembly cut. I'm glad it got made.