Anyone who thinks A3 is even close to as good as the originals is nuts. It's an okay movie, but it pales in comparison to the masterpieces of sci-fi that are Alien and Aliens. If Blomkamp wants to try and make a movie as good as those, good on him, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Neil Blomkamp's Alien film a direct sequel to Aliens; disregards Alien 3/Resurrection
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Bobby Roberts
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This seems virtually impossible considering the pre-production art and the cast. And the premise.
Sapphire Dreams
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While I do think the series is creatively bankrupt. I am looking forward to seeing this.
Not since Uwe Boll and Ed Wood have I seen someone so giftedly untalented.
Alien Recalibration
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
But did Prometheus happen?
Escape Goat
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Theres going to be a sequel so I imagine so.
SirMossyBloke
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Alien 3 wasn't that good, but it did give us one of the most iconic scenes in Alien history. Its still a shame its going to be written off.
AtomicSymphonic
Banned
My money is on Aliened.
It just rolls off the tongue.
If the new film will be titled something like this, then I guess I may have earned a tag for myself on NeoGAF... That would be hilarious!
AtomicSymphonic
Banned
I've heard the proper term is "Tetralogy". Is this correct?
Escape Goat
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Because Aliens was good.
twinturbo2
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Alien: Tokyo Drift
Obviously, I disagree with you.
I guess Isolation is as close as I'll ever get.
GOD IS DEAAAAD
Too Fast, Too Alien.
AtomicSymphonic
Banned
There was... It's called...
Right, Prometheus! For me, it was a great film! Hopefully this new Alien film might tie into what happened in that film, as well.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Alien: Electric Boogaloo.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
It seems like that, doesn't it, but there might still be a chance that there is a legitimate reason for them to tell this story. Nostalgia might be what suckers us in. But maybe I'm hoping too much. Alien is pretty much a spent property.
Moff
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I'm not ok with this, actually.
first of all Alien 3 was not that terrible, it was a failed movie that could have been great if they let fincher do what he wanted, and the ending was ok. it's not ok to just ignore it.
and honestly, If the start changing the canon, they should start right after Alien, because cameron fucked up some of the most interesting parts of the lore with Aliens, although I still like that movie a lot.
first of all Alien 3 was not that terrible, it was a failed movie that could have been great if they let fincher do what he wanted, and the ending was ok. it's not ok to just ignore it.
and honestly, If the start changing the canon, they should start right after Alien, because cameron fucked up some of the most interesting parts of the lore with Aliens, although I still like that movie a lot.
Any Questions
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Is gonna be a long wait for release day. All the info drops til then are gonna be great!
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Alienerer
Well, it starts with the fact that Alien 3 is a thoroughly mediocre retread of Alien, while Aliens was a complete reinvention and expansion of the concept. That would just make it another unremarkable sequel, but it killed off the characters people had grown to care about and root for to survive through Aliens, and it did it callously and between films. That makes it the cinematic equivalent of a war crime, and people rightly hate it for that.
Frankly I hope this notion of a new sequel that ignores the shitty previous sequels and just resets the clock back to the last time a franchise was good becomes a regular thing, at least if Hollywood insists on not letting anything lie. I have an idea to save Terminator after Genesys or whatever it is screws the pooch in a few months. Give me a call, Arnold.
Alienating 34
funkystudent
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Aliens 2
NinjaTehFish
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ALIENS:EARTH
Jack Scofield
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Yep. I said it before and I'll say it again. Turning the alien into a space bug completely ruined the allure and "otherness" of the creature.
Seriously. This is an unbelievably idiotic move. If you're going to disregard movies, why not start with Aliens, the movie that actually devalued the original source material in so many ways.
At absolute worst, Alien 3 was an unremarkable movie, but at least it didn't cause the whole franchise to change genres (for decades!) or give way to stuff like Alien Versus Predator.
This news just makes me appreciate Creative Assembly's work even more. What a bunch of smart, handsome people.
I like Alien 3 but I'll give Blomkamp the benefit of the doubt.
The only other times I can think of where a sequel disregards previous films in a franchise (not counting remakes) are:
Halloween H2O which seem people like but most people dislike.
Does Highlander 2 count? Kinda' the same thing going on there with the immortals being aliens, Sean Connery coming back for no reason and etc.
Friday the 13th Part 6 disregarded the ending of part 5 that set up Tommy Jarvis as the new main killer.
And then you have Texas Chainsaw 3D which ignores all of the sequels and remakes and claims to be a direct sequel to the original.
The only other times I can think of where a sequel disregards previous films in a franchise (not counting remakes) are:
Halloween H2O which seem people like but most people dislike.
Does Highlander 2 count? Kinda' the same thing going on there with the immortals being aliens, Sean Connery coming back for no reason and etc.
Friday the 13th Part 6 disregarded the ending of part 5 that set up Tommy Jarvis as the new main killer.
And then you have Texas Chainsaw 3D which ignores all of the sequels and remakes and claims to be a direct sequel to the original.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
YES!
BigJonsson
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Is this going to be the new trend in Hollywood? No need to reboot, just forget bad sequels!
As I said in my post, it's been done before with Halloween H20, Texas Chainsaw 3D and also Jaws 4 (which ignores 3).
Not a great precedent I'd be the first to admit, but it has been done before. I think the Bond movies would count somewhat in that they rarely follow each other.
timetokill
Banned
Sounds awesome.
They should do the same with Star Wars. Just forget the prequels ever happened.
They should do the same with Star Wars. Just forget the prequels ever happened.
Fallout-NL
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That's for damn sure.
As for Weaver and this interview... I hadn't expected her to take quite as huge a dump on 3 as she did here. Though I suppose Cameron and now Blompkamp are more of a meal ticket for her than Fincher.
Three wasn't a bad film. Something of a fitting end. But if I can see Biehn in a big budget sci fi film again, I'll definitely take it.
Eclectic Jabber Monkey
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Alien 3 had some production issues to say the least, which I randomly discovered a few years ago. This isn't the article I read then, but it gives a bit of an idea of how 3 turned out as it did.
http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1102
I need to go to bed so I can't Google it more, but there are definitely more stories out there about the A3 production debacle, like how they changed the story significantly after the sets were mostly built. There is some interesting stuff out there.
Discotheque
Banned
excellent news though if blomkamp's writing this i don't see it being good.
but still, aliens needs a good sequel.
but still, aliens needs a good sequel.
Warm Machine
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So they can culminate to A New Hope again? What is the point and what would it change? The characters and events are still all in play. Most of the plotting from the prequels was established by the stated hooks in the OT.
My Alien 5 script that I wrote years ago was designed so if you didn't care about 3 or 4 you could essentially pretend it was 3. If you thought 3 and 4 were canonically valid then it would have been a direct sequel. The only hook required to do this is Sigourney. Adding Hicks or Newt back in forces the continuity.
paradise_circus
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Alien: A southafrican in Hollywood
I hope so. I have no idea why anyone would care that shit films like Alien 3 are being ignored. Nobody is erasing them from existence, they are just acknowledging their shitness.
If only this had been done with Terminator
Miles Quaritch
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I down for that.
While I like Alien 3, it doesn't really make sense to set any Alien movies after it, especially if you're still aiming for Ripley to feature in some form that isn't as stupid as cloning her so she's half alien and we end up with a scene where she's embracing some albino looking alien.
While I like Alien 3, it doesn't really make sense to set any Alien movies after it, especially if you're still aiming for Ripley to feature in some form that isn't as stupid as cloning her so she's half alien and we end up with a scene where she's embracing some albino looking alien.
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