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NeoGAF Anonymous Confessions 2014 - Confessember Be Upon Us - Under New Management

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maomaoIYP

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I have two confessions I don't mind making non-anonymous.
1) I have more than two confessions in the last thread.
2) I'm 34, I have about a grand total of 1 and a half real relationships. I'm a virgin and I'm single now. I managed to work through all the self-esteem and relationship problems I had last year, got a better job, got a better outlook on life, got more confident, gave less of a crap what anyone thinks while simultaneously being nicer to people in general. However I've realized that I fall in love with any woman who shows me any attention. It sucks. I don't know what love is anymore. I think I fall in love with the notion of being in love, and not the actual person. I hate it and it makes me feel lousy.
 

Bold One

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Too late.

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KidJr

Member
Wtf at soulfucking?!

Anyway to the cheater, meant to type this earlier and hope you can take something away from this story. Don't mind sharing (seeing as everyone GAF likes to share everything lol) so I'll try keep this brief. I'm typing on my phone so I'll re-read and edit for grammar when I can.

I used to love women, part of my up bringing I think has to do with why I love the emotional attention so much but every since I lost my virginity I've pretty much been in a relationship lol. I was that dude who always had a gf, and in retrospect I've been a pretty decent bf with the exception of id always have a slightly inappropriate friendships with other females while having gf. Nothing sexual at first, just talking to them far too much getting to close until we both were started to develop feelings and that said female would then usually replace my gf in a messy break up.

Fast forward a few years and I've just broken up with my first real gf and randomly this girl I've known since childhood is in the same city as I am. We meet up old as friends etc. she's sharing a hotel with her best friend and it's all innocent at first. She's actually a really well sweet lady she has a bf of five years and we just chill, watch films etc and really hit it off. She's travelling back to London the next day so we exchange numbers and promised we'd keep in contact as friends because ya know who can't have friends. We will call this girl k. So even though she has a bf of five years we slowly begin to start texting more which leads to more phone conversations and she tells her bf I'm just a friend but I know his eyebrows are raised but what can he really say. I decide I like this girl (I geniunly did develop deep feelings for her) , but knew if I made a move it'd be over I didn't want to ruin our friendship so I kinda put it that to one side and we became closer and closer. To the point where she would call her bf at night have their little convo but then call me after to talk all night. We were really good friends but we still lived in different city's so as her bf became more and more annoyed (she just said we were friends and I think she was naive enough to believe that) it wasn't an issue.

Next thing I got a job offer to move to london (ahhh the start of my search career) and I needed a place to stay. Again just on Facebook im randomly talking to a girl who was in my school (high school) but was four or so years my senior, she actually amazingly had a spare room and said I could crash with her. We call this girl s. Randomly by pure chance k lived like 5 minute drive from s (which is pretty coincidental considering how big London is lol) so yeah I told k and she was over the moon. Her best friend was going to be a stone throw from her (her bf lived like an hours drive on the other side of London) so we'd be able to talk more face to face and do stuff. I should also make this clear i like this girl and I am well aware of what this will probably lead to (I wanted her to be mine I didn't give a fuck about anyone else) so I was also happy. Now girl s, I really think nothing of her in an sexual way, I never forget first day I move down she's cooking for me (forgot to mention s has a son as cute as hell about 1 years old or so) and I'm one of those dudes that again I dunno I always blur the lines even when they don't need to be blurred but yeah she's cooking and I put my hands her waist to hug her (friendly hug but ya know who does that lol) and she likes it. Let's just say by the time I was meant to sleep in the spare room I ended up her bed, we kissed but that was it. She was due to go on a family holiday the next day so she left early morning and I didn't think too much of it. Also as an fyi s and k kinda know each other (like have each other on fb but not friends or anything).

Girl s is America so I switch my attention back to k, we are talking (as friends but more than friends should) like she was one of those girls who probably couldn't handle what she was doing so wanted to feel it was innocent. We'd play pool, she'd come to my house (or girl s house lol) and we'd chill (she was also a virgin so I didn't even try play ANYTHING sexual initially) blah blah, her bf is seriously getting pissed but ya know what can he really say, we are just friends. After a few days girl s emails me from the usa like shall we talk about what happened and ended confessing she wanted to fuck me, like the 19 year old idiot I am I thought GREAT. So because she was older had a kid saw a guy that had pretty good prospects I think she latched on to me pretty quickly, I mean I kinda liked girl s but at the time I certainly thought I was falling in love with girl k. So girl s begins talking about how we are going to be an item when we get back play happy families etc. in my retarded immature head I thought this was excellent, I could have as much sex as I'd want chill with a cool girl and her son and still have my friendship with girl k.

Girl s returns and we hook up, starting having sex (which I must admit was pretty amazing), unprotected might I add and become an item. Girl k doesn’t have a clue, she knows I live with girl s but thinks we are just friends as does girl s think I’m friends with girl k… I feel like this story is a bit boring so I’m going to cut out a chunk to but yeah routine would be something like come home spend one day with girl s, maybe the next day after work I’d tell girl s I was visiting my friend girl k. However as time went on suspicions became aroused between both k and s (k by right had no reason to be asking questions or upset as she had a bf of five years but yeah) and I even when the spoke I managed to manipulate the situation so they both hated each other (I made k think s was crazy she they spoke on fb and she claimed to be my gf), I manipulated a conversation with girl s that allowed k to listen in to that with selective wording made it seem like me and s weren’t together. This went on for like two months or so.

Enter girl b, I’m getting pretty tired of all this now, its becoming stressful lol, literally juggling two women is an emotional drag drain. I’ve quickly realised I’m in a situation where I don’t like girl s but I feel trapped because I live with her and her son and I enjoyed the sex. Girl k now is starting to question her whole relationship with her bf because she’s slowly starting to realise she has feelings for me its all to much so…. I randomly start talking to this girl on fb, we kinda knew each other, I stood her up on a date previously she went on holiday but we lost contact and started talking again. At first she was honestly there for me to vent to, I told her everything, I told her I was deeply in love with girl k, but I was seeing girl s and how complicated my life was etc. Again I’m trying to keep this story short for some weird reason I remember… I started venting talking to girl b more and more… like really opening up, it was different to girl k is the only word I can use. Literally thought NOTHING of it, pure friendship just someone to allow my to clear my head with cus this situation was becoming intense (pictures would be up of my and girl s, girl k would be asking questionsm girl k would be phoning me at stupid o clock leading girl s to also question our “friendship”) and I remember thnking one weekend (never forget the date) I need a break. So I randomely asked girl b if I could see her, to my surprise she said yes, she lived around 400 miles away from me in a different city. But from the moment I met her I honestly knew I didn’t want anything to do with girl s or k anymore, girl k was dilly dallying around and couldn’t make up her mind what she wanted and I told her I met someone else. I never forget literally the next day she broke up with bf and kissed me in the car, sounds so superfisical but the worst kiss I’ve ever had I thought thank fuck I met girl b but I didn’t tell her that, I told her I needed time (I’m a douche you don’t need to tell me).

So now I think I’m falling madly in love with girl b, not really sure what to do with girl k and girl s just an after thought but we’re still sleeping together because it’s convienent and I live with her. My life consisted off sneaking away every other weekend to see girl b, juggling between girl k and s and trying to maintain a job lol (I had help from a close friend who covered for me). But it gets to the point where I stop caring, I tell girl b I’ve broken up with girl s (I’m building up to it but girl b wont do anything with me until I get out of situation) and I girl k still feels like there is hope for us. But I started to get sloppy, too sloppy.

I never forget the phone call I received one Sunday on a trip back from seeing girl b (who I’m head over heels about now btw and I did have intentions of getting out of my situation it was just a mess). Girl K’s best friend phones me to ask me where I am, which was weird but I just said on the way back from a friends house. But in the words of peter parker, sent my spider sense tingling. When I got back to the house something told me (she lived on the ground floor flat) to look through the window, low and behold girl k her best friend girl s and around 8 guys with baseball bats, I saw a few guns and knuckle dusters where there in the living room. I thought OMG Im dead, theres no way I can even go in there. So I was like I needed to get my stuff and just disappear. So I waited until like 3am in the morning and tried to sneak in with my key, door was on latch bad idea. Girl S came to the door and I saw my bags packed but there were other people in the house. Lets just say a gun was put to my head and girl k was called and I was made to confess and own up to everything. Girl s is what you Americans would call ratchet, and her male family members where not impressed with my treatment of her, I thought I was dead, I got beaten up badly, think something along the scene from training day where the Mexicans are about to kill the cop. My head forced in running bath with what I could only assume was some kind of .38 to my skull. In the end it took girl s to beg for them not to kill me for them not to do it. long story short I owed quite a lot of money and so had to be empty out my bank account and yeah was kicked out on the street, I was like homeless for a few weeks. No one at work knew, I was living on bus’s in parks and just getting to work early and showering etc until I got myself back on my feet.

Ever since then, I’ve thought you know what, its not worth it, I love my life too much to every play with a girls heart like that. A lot of people I talk to say she went too far but I honestly don’t think I would have ever learned otherwise. Like I missed out a lot (she had an abortion for me, introuduced me to her family girl s) like you cant play with peoples lives like that man, so to cheater you may see what your doing as harmless fun but someone has made a commitment to you which in my opinion is one of the most serious decisions a person can make. It’s really not fair to do people like that and I hope it doesn’t take a gun to your head to realise the mistakes. Like if anyone asks me what I value most in a relationship now, it’s honesty man, without you have nothing and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

p.s. me and girl b ended being in a three year relationship which was also destroyed due to her not being able to ultimately get passed the circumstances we got together.
 

Damn, a TL;DR at-least? I nearly scrubbed a hole through my screen protector scrolling that.

Ever do that thing where a girl was just polite or smiled at you in the hallway and you fell in love all over again and imagined an entire life together?

CRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGE

I've done that, but it only happens if the girl is absolutely 100% my type, also, I would have to had some kind of interaction prior, something like small talk. Falling in love with every hot chick would suck lol.
 

KidJr

Member
Damn, a TL;DR at-least? I nearly scrubbed a hole through my screen protector scrolling that.



I've done that, but it only happens if the girl is absolutely 100% my type, also, I would have to had some kind of interaction prior, something like small talk. Falling in love with every hot chick would suck lol.

Sorry I dont know what TL: DR is but I'll assume by other posts its some kind of summary of my post.

Yeah really sorry its so long guys, I tried to miss out chunks of it. But synopsis is:

Had three girls on the go, they all found out, almost got killed for it, ended up homeless
 
I'm a 29 year old virgin who has never went on a date once.

I had a lot of friends and many of them were athletes/popular guys since I was really into sports and weightlifting. I thought this would eventually translate into some kind of female interest but nope. I was the odd man out and eventually I gave up. It seemed like in the circles, the guys would pair up with the girls but the girls left over would just pursue other guys or wait in the wings for relationships to break up so they could go in. I tried but at best, the girls were just polite to me because since I was good friends with their friend's boyfriends. In the end, I just focused on having fun with my friends and I had a very good time.

In college, I assumed this would be solved but nope. Again, I had a lot of friends but no girls ever showed any interest in me. Again, I'd make attempts but it never went anywhere with anyone. So I'd keep my head down, focus on homework, working out, and hanging out with friends.

Since I graduated, I've been working my ass off, getting up to management level and making very good money (six figures). Still, no women. I have no trouble talking to girls but it seems like when push comes to shove, no interest. At this point I've considered giving up because I can't imagine an adult woman wanting to play sexual catch-up. I dress very nice, take very good care of myself, and have various ambitions life but it hasn't translated to any sexual interest.

It isn't that bad. I'm debt free, do very well, like my job, can do whatever I want (except for the women part lol) and I'm pretty happy. It's just this giant hole in my existence. It seems like I'm at the now or never stage in things, although I suspect that I reached that point almost a decade earlier, going with the latter option.

Look at it this way: at least you've got a lot of other important shit locked down.

At 29 though, I'd start making moves. You don't want to be in your mid to late 30s, still alone, still waiting for someone to appear.

And, dude, you make six figures; that's easy pussy! Just kidding, but as i mentioned, you've got a lot of key things figured out and that will go a long way to attracting a mate.
 
Wtf at soulfucking?!

Anyway to the cheater, meant to type this earlier and hope you can take something away from this story. Don't mind sharing (seeing as everyone GAF likes to share everything lol) so I'll try keep this brief. I'm typing on my phone so I'll re-read and edit for grammar when I can.

I used to love women, part of my up bringing I think has to do with why I love the emotional attention so much but every since I lost my virginity I've pretty much been in a relationship lol. I was that dude who always had a gf, and in retrospect I've been a pretty decent bf with the exception of id always have a slightly inappropriate friendships with other females while having gf. Nothing sexual at first, just talking to them far too much getting to close until we both were started to develop feelings and that said female would then usually replace my gf in a messy break up.

Fast forward a few years and I've just broken up with my first real gf and randomly this girl I've known since childhood is in the same city as I am. We meet up old as friends etc. she's sharing a hotel with her best friend and it's all innocent at first. She's actually a really well sweet lady she has a bf of five years and we just chill, watch films etc and really hit it off. She's travelling back to London the next day so we exchange numbers and promised we'd keep in contact as friends because ya know who can't have friends. We will call this girl k. So even though she has a bf of five years we slowly begin to start texting more which leads to more phone conversations and she tells her bf I'm just a friend but I know his eyebrows are raised but what can he really say. I decide I like this girl (I geniunly did develop deep feelings for her) , but knew if I made a move it'd be over I didn't want to ruin our friendship so I kinda put it that to one side and we became closer and closer. To the point where she would call her bf at night have their little convo but then call me after to talk all night. We were really good friends but we still lived in different city's so as her bf became more and more annoyed (she just said we were friends and I think she was naive enough to believe that) it wasn't an issue.

Next thing I got a job offer to move to london (ahhh the start of my search career) and I needed a place to stay. Again just on Facebook im randomly talking to a girl who was in my school (high school) but was four or so years my senior, she actually amazingly had a spare room and said I could crash with her. We call this girl s. Randomly by pure chance k lived like 5 minute drive from s (which is pretty coincidental considering how big London is lol) so yeah I told k and she was over the moon. Her best friend was going to be a stone throw from her (her bf lived like an hours drive on the other side of London) so we'd be able to talk more face to face and do stuff. I should also make this clear i like this girl and I am well aware of what this will probably lead to (I wanted her to be mine I didn't give a fuck about anyone else) so I was also happy. Now girl s, I really think nothing of her in an sexual way, I never forget first day I move down she's cooking for me (forgot to mention s has a son as cute as hell about 1 years old or so) and I'm one of those dudes that again I dunno I always blur the lines even when they don't need to be blurred but yeah she's cooking and I put my hands her waist to hug her (friendly hug but ya know who does that lol) and she likes it. Let's just say by the time I was meant to sleep in the spare room I ended up her bed, we kissed but that was it. She was due to go on a family holiday the next day so she left early morning and I didn't think too much of it. Also as an fyi s and k kinda know each other (like have each other on fb but not friends or anything).

Girl s is America so I switch my attention back to k, we are talking (as friends but more than friends should) like she was one of those girls who probably couldn't handle what she was doing so wanted to feel it was innocent. We'd play pool, she'd come to my house (or girl s house lol) and we'd chill (she was also a virgin so I didn't even try play ANYTHING sexual initially) blah blah, her bf is seriously getting pissed but ya know what can he really say, we are just friends. After a few days girl s emails me from the usa like shall we talk about what happened and ended confessing she wanted to fuck me, like the 19 year old idiot I am I thought GREAT. So because she was older had a kid saw a guy that had pretty good prospects I think she latched on to me pretty quickly, I mean I kinda liked girl s but at the time I certainly thought I was falling in love with girl k. So girl s begins talking about how we are going to be an item when we get back play happy families etc. in my retarded immature head I thought this was excellent, I could have as much sex as I'd want chill with a cool girl and her son and still have my friendship with girl k.

Girl s returns and we hook up, starting having sex (which I must admit was pretty amazing), unprotected might I add and become an item. Girl k doesn’t have a clue, she knows I live with girl s but thinks we are just friends as does girl s think I’m friends with girl k… I feel like this story is a bit boring so I’m going to cut out a chunk to but yeah routine would be something like come home spend one day with girl s, maybe the next day after work I’d tell girl s I was visiting my friend girl k. However as time went on suspicions became aroused between both k and s (k by right had no reason to be asking questions or upset as she had a bf of five years but yeah) and I even when the spoke I managed to manipulate the situation so they both hated each other (I made k think s was crazy she they spoke on fb and she claimed to be my gf), I manipulated a conversation with girl s that allowed k to listen in to that with selective wording made it seem like me and s weren’t together. This went on for like two months or so.

Enter girl b, I’m getting pretty tired of all this now, its becoming stressful lol, literally juggling two women is an emotional drag drain. I’ve quickly realised I’m in a situation where I don’t like girl s but I feel trapped because I live with her and her son and I enjoyed the sex. Girl k now is starting to question her whole relationship with her bf because she’s slowly starting to realise she has feelings for me its all to much so…. I randomly start talking to this girl on fb, we kinda knew each other, I stood her up on a date previously she went on holiday but we lost contact and started talking again. At first she was honestly there for me to vent to, I told her everything, I told her I was deeply in love with girl k, but I was seeing girl s and how complicated my life was etc. Again I’m trying to keep this story short for some weird reason I remember… I started venting talking to girl b more and more… like really opening up, it was different to girl k is the only word I can use. Literally thought NOTHING of it, pure friendship just someone to allow my to clear my head with cus this situation was becoming intense (pictures would be up of my and girl s, girl k would be asking questionsm girl k would be phoning me at stupid o clock leading girl s to also question our “friendship”) and I remember thnking one weekend (never forget the date) I need a break. So I randomely asked girl b if I could see her, to my surprise she said yes, she lived around 400 miles away from me in a different city. But from the moment I met her I honestly knew I didn’t want anything to do with girl s or k anymore, girl k was dilly dallying around and couldn’t make up her mind what she wanted and I told her I met someone else. I never forget literally the next day she broke up with bf and kissed me in the car, sounds so superfisical but the worst kiss I’ve ever had I thought thank fuck I met girl b but I didn’t tell her that, I told her I needed time (I’m a douche you don’t need to tell me).

So now I think I’m falling madly in love with girl b, not really sure what to do with girl k and girl s just an after thought but we’re still sleeping together because it’s convienent and I live with her. My life consisted off sneaking away every other weekend to see girl b, juggling between girl k and s and trying to maintain a job lol (I had help from a close friend who covered for me). But it gets to the point where I stop caring, I tell girl b I’ve broken up with girl s (I’m building up to it but girl b wont do anything with me until I get out of situation) and I girl k still feels like there is hope for us. But I started to get sloppy, too sloppy.

I never forget the phone call I received one Sunday on a trip back from seeing girl b (who I’m head over heels about now btw and I did have intentions of getting out of my situation it was just a mess). Girl K’s best friend phones me to ask me where I am, which was weird but I just said on the way back from a friends house. But in the words of peter parker, sent my spider sense tingling. When I got back to the house something told me (she lived on the ground floor flat) to look through the window, low and behold girl k her best friend girl s and around 8 guys with baseball bats, I saw a few guns and knuckle dusters where there in the living room. I thought OMG Im dead, theres no way I can even go in there. So I was like I needed to get my stuff and just disappear. So I waited until like 3am in the morning and tried to sneak in with my key, door was on latch bad idea. Girl S came to the door and I saw my bags packed but there were other people in the house. Lets just say a gun was put to my head and girl k was called and I was made to confess and own up to everything. Girl s is what you Americans would call ratchet, and her male family members where not impressed with my treatment of her, I thought I was dead, I got beaten up badly, think something along the scene from training day where the Mexicans are about to kill the cop. My head forced in running bath with what I could only assume was some kind of .38 to my skull. In the end it took girl s to beg for them not to kill me for them not to do it. long story short I owed quite a lot of money and so had to be empty out my bank account and yeah was kicked out on the street, I was like homeless for a few weeks. No one at work knew, I was living on bus’s in parks and just getting to work early and showering etc until I got myself back on my feet.

Ever since then, I’ve thought you know what, its not worth it, I love my life too much to every play with a girls heart like that. A lot of people I talk to say she went too far but I honestly don’t think I would have ever learned otherwise. Like I missed out a lot (she had an abortion for me, introuduced me to her family girl s) like you cant play with peoples lives like that man, so to cheater you may see what your doing as harmless fun but someone has made a commitment to you which in my opinion is one of the most serious decisions a person can make. It’s really not fair to do people like that and I hope it doesn’t take a gun to your head to realise the mistakes. Like if anyone asks me what I value most in a relationship now, it’s honesty man, without you have nothing and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

p.s. me and girl b ended being in a three year relationship which was also destroyed due to her not being able to ultimately get passed the circumstances we got together.

Okay first off how did you type all that on a phone

You must have one of those phones with a physical keyboard, cause I can't see touch typing letting you spill all that out without every word being garbled.

Secondly your 19 year old self was an IDIOT. How the fuck did you think you could juggle three girls, two of which lived like 5 minutes away from each other?

And.... And did I read that Girl S got an ABORTION for you? The FUCK. So you knocked her up too, and this was while you were thinking of dicking around with girl K? That is legit awful.
 

terrisus

Member
I've realized that I fall in love with any woman who shows me any attention. It sucks. I don't know what love is anymore. I think I fall in love with the notion of being in love, and not the actual person. I hate it and it makes me feel lousy.

I know that feel, bro.
 

KidJr

Member
Okay first off how did you type all that on a phone

You must have one of those phones with a physical keyboard, cause I can't see touch typing letting you spill all that out without every word being garbled.

Secondly your 19 year old self was an IDIOT. How the fuck did you think you could juggle three girls, two of which lived like 5 minutes away from each other?

And.... And did I read that Girl S got an ABORTION for you? The FUCK. So you knocked her up too, and this was while you were thinking of dicking around with girl K? That is legit awful.

Umm yeah took my a while type but I'm used to it. I type a lot on my phone. But yeah hence why I didn't really feel sorry for myself when she had her vengeance so to speak. I shared that story really hoping that Mr cheater confessor can adopt care for life, that's all it is, he doesn't realise the impact of what he could be doing so hope he can learn through my mistakes.
 
Umm yeah took my a while type but I'm used to it. I type a lot on my phone. But yeah hence why I didn't really feel sorry for myself when she had her vengeance so to speak. I shared that story really hoping that Mr cheater confessor can adopt care for life, that's all it is, he doesn't realise the impact of what he could be doing so hope he can learn through my mistakes.

The vengeance is not what I'm concerned about right now!

Like, how are K and S doing right now? Have you ever tried to check up on them after that mess, or did you cut and run after ending up on the street? Because you seem okay right now, but I'm worried about those two with what you did to them, especially S! That's not the sort of shit that goes away!
 
Wtf at soulfucking?!

Anyway to the cheater, meant to type this earlier and hope you can take something away from this story. Don't mind sharing (seeing as everyone GAF likes to share everything lol) so I'll try keep this brief. I'm typing on my phone so I'll re-read and edit for grammar when I can.

I used to love women, part of my up bringing I think has to do with why I love the emotional attention so much but every since I lost my virginity I've pretty much been in a relationship lol. I was that dude who always had a gf, and in retrospect I've been a pretty decent bf with the exception of id always have a slightly inappropriate friendships with other females while having gf. Nothing sexual at first, just talking to them far too much getting to close until we both were started to develop feelings and that said female would then usually replace my gf in a messy break up.

Fast forward a few years and I've just broken up with my first real gf and randomly this girl I've known since childhood is in the same city as I am. We meet up old as friends etc. she's sharing a hotel with her best friend and it's all innocent at first. She's actually a really well sweet lady she has a bf of five years and we just chill, watch films etc and really hit it off. She's travelling back to London the next day so we exchange numbers and promised we'd keep in contact as friends because ya know who can't have friends. We will call this girl k. So even though she has a bf of five years we slowly begin to start texting more which leads to more phone conversations and she tells her bf I'm just a friend but I know his eyebrows are raised but what can he really say. I decide I like this girl (I geniunly did develop deep feelings for her) , but knew if I made a move it'd be over I didn't want to ruin our friendship so I kinda put it that to one side and we became closer and closer. To the point where she would call her bf at night have their little convo but then call me after to talk all night. We were really good friends but we still lived in different city's so as her bf became more and more annoyed (she just said we were friends and I think she was naive enough to believe that) it wasn't an issue.

Next thing I got a job offer to move to london (ahhh the start of my search career) and I needed a place to stay. Again just on Facebook im randomly talking to a girl who was in my school (high school) but was four or so years my senior, she actually amazingly had a spare room and said I could crash with her. We call this girl s. Randomly by pure chance k lived like 5 minute drive from s (which is pretty coincidental considering how big London is lol) so yeah I told k and she was over the moon. Her best friend was going to be a stone throw from her (her bf lived like an hours drive on the other side of London) so we'd be able to talk more face to face and do stuff. I should also make this clear i like this girl and I am well aware of what this will probably lead to (I wanted her to be mine I didn't give a fuck about anyone else) so I was also happy. Now girl s, I really think nothing of her in an sexual way, I never forget first day I move down she's cooking for me (forgot to mention s has a son as cute as hell about 1 years old or so) and I'm one of those dudes that again I dunno I always blur the lines even when they don't need to be blurred but yeah she's cooking and I put my hands her waist to hug her (friendly hug but ya know who does that lol) and she likes it. Let's just say by the time I was meant to sleep in the spare room I ended up her bed, we kissed but that was it. She was due to go on a family holiday the next day so she left early morning and I didn't think too much of it. Also as an fyi s and k kinda know each other (like have each other on fb but not friends or anything).

Girl s is America so I switch my attention back to k, we are talking (as friends but more than friends should) like she was one of those girls who probably couldn't handle what she was doing so wanted to feel it was innocent. We'd play pool, she'd come to my house (or girl s house lol) and we'd chill (she was also a virgin so I didn't even try play ANYTHING sexual initially) blah blah, her bf is seriously getting pissed but ya know what can he really say, we are just friends. After a few days girl s emails me from the usa like shall we talk about what happened and ended confessing she wanted to fuck me, like the 19 year old idiot I am I thought GREAT. So because she was older had a kid saw a guy that had pretty good prospects I think she latched on to me pretty quickly, I mean I kinda liked girl s but at the time I certainly thought I was falling in love with girl k. So girl s begins talking about how we are going to be an item when we get back play happy families etc. in my retarded immature head I thought this was excellent, I could have as much sex as I'd want chill with a cool girl and her son and still have my friendship with girl k.

Girl s returns and we hook up, starting having sex (which I must admit was pretty amazing), unprotected might I add and become an item. Girl k doesn’t have a clue, she knows I live with girl s but thinks we are just friends as does girl s think I’m friends with girl k… I feel like this story is a bit boring so I’m going to cut out a chunk to but yeah routine would be something like come home spend one day with girl s, maybe the next day after work I’d tell girl s I was visiting my friend girl k. However as time went on suspicions became aroused between both k and s (k by right had no reason to be asking questions or upset as she had a bf of five years but yeah) and I even when the spoke I managed to manipulate the situation so they both hated each other (I made k think s was crazy she they spoke on fb and she claimed to be my gf), I manipulated a conversation with girl s that allowed k to listen in to that with selective wording made it seem like me and s weren’t together. This went on for like two months or so.

Enter girl b, I’m getting pretty tired of all this now, its becoming stressful lol, literally juggling two women is an emotional drag drain. I’ve quickly realised I’m in a situation where I don’t like girl s but I feel trapped because I live with her and her son and I enjoyed the sex. Girl k now is starting to question her whole relationship with her bf because she’s slowly starting to realise she has feelings for me its all to much so…. I randomly start talking to this girl on fb, we kinda knew each other, I stood her up on a date previously she went on holiday but we lost contact and started talking again. At first she was honestly there for me to vent to, I told her everything, I told her I was deeply in love with girl k, but I was seeing girl s and how complicated my life was etc. Again I’m trying to keep this story short for some weird reason I remember… I started venting talking to girl b more and more… like really opening up, it was different to girl k is the only word I can use. Literally thought NOTHING of it, pure friendship just someone to allow my to clear my head with cus this situation was becoming intense (pictures would be up of my and girl s, girl k would be asking questionsm girl k would be phoning me at stupid o clock leading girl s to also question our “friendship”) and I remember thnking one weekend (never forget the date) I need a break. So I randomely asked girl b if I could see her, to my surprise she said yes, she lived around 400 miles away from me in a different city. But from the moment I met her I honestly knew I didn’t want anything to do with girl s or k anymore, girl k was dilly dallying around and couldn’t make up her mind what she wanted and I told her I met someone else. I never forget literally the next day she broke up with bf and kissed me in the car, sounds so superfisical but the worst kiss I’ve ever had I thought thank fuck I met girl b but I didn’t tell her that, I told her I needed time (I’m a douche you don’t need to tell me).

So now I think I’m falling madly in love with girl b, not really sure what to do with girl k and girl s just an after thought but we’re still sleeping together because it’s convienent and I live with her. My life consisted off sneaking away every other weekend to see girl b, juggling between girl k and s and trying to maintain a job lol (I had help from a close friend who covered for me). But it gets to the point where I stop caring, I tell girl b I’ve broken up with girl s (I’m building up to it but girl b wont do anything with me until I get out of situation) and I girl k still feels like there is hope for us. But I started to get sloppy, too sloppy.

I never forget the phone call I received one Sunday on a trip back from seeing girl b (who I’m head over heels about now btw and I did have intentions of getting out of my situation it was just a mess). Girl K’s best friend phones me to ask me where I am, which was weird but I just said on the way back from a friends house. But in the words of peter parker, sent my spider sense tingling. When I got back to the house something told me (she lived on the ground floor flat) to look through the window, low and behold girl k her best friend girl s and around 8 guys with baseball bats, I saw a few guns and knuckle dusters where there in the living room. I thought OMG Im dead, theres no way I can even go in there. So I was like I needed to get my stuff and just disappear. So I waited until like 3am in the morning and tried to sneak in with my key, door was on latch bad idea. Girl S came to the door and I saw my bags packed but there were other people in the house. Lets just say a gun was put to my head and girl k was called and I was made to confess and own up to everything. Girl s is what you Americans would call ratchet, and her male family members where not impressed with my treatment of her, I thought I was dead, I got beaten up badly, think something along the scene from training day where the Mexicans are about to kill the cop. My head forced in running bath with what I could only assume was some kind of .38 to my skull. In the end it took girl s to beg for them not to kill me for them not to do it. long story short I owed quite a lot of money and so had to be empty out my bank account and yeah was kicked out on the street, I was like homeless for a few weeks. No one at work knew, I was living on bus’s in parks and just getting to work early and showering etc until I got myself back on my feet.

Ever since then, I’ve thought you know what, its not worth it, I love my life too much to every play with a girls heart like that. A lot of people I talk to say she went too far but I honestly don’t think I would have ever learned otherwise. Like I missed out a lot (she had an abortion for me, introuduced me to her family girl s) like you cant play with peoples lives like that man, so to cheater you may see what your doing as harmless fun but someone has made a commitment to you which in my opinion is one of the most serious decisions a person can make. It’s really not fair to do people like that and I hope it doesn’t take a gun to your head to realise the mistakes. Like if anyone asks me what I value most in a relationship now, it’s honesty man, without you have nothing and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

p.s. me and girl b ended being in a three year relationship which was also destroyed due to her not being able to ultimately get passed the circumstances we got together.

What.

What.

WHAT.

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When I was about 11, my cousin (also 11) stuck his dick up my butt. Not much of it, and nothing else happened and I wasn't forced, he took it back out after a few seconds. Between the ages of 13/14 I had anal/oral with two other guys, a family friend and another of my friends (also same age). I've only been attracted to girls, and have only had straight relationships since, as has every other of the guys involved. I'm not against the idea of experimenting with men more (or maybe transgender would be a better fit), which is odd because I'm still pretty much entirely attracted to girls, and if that makes me Bi I'm fine with that. It just seemed odd to me that I had that happen with 3 separate guys in my youth. It makes me wonder how common that kind of same-sex experimentation happens between young guys (and girls, I guess) and they just don't talk about we, or even how many guys are secretly bi and never act on it. I guess the popularity of shemale porn sort of answers that, though with no male/male attraction involved you could argue there's nothing gay about it. I'm not uncomfortable with any label anyone wants to attach to me, but I guess most guys that are interested in/have had experiences like this are and keep it all entirely private.

Well, if you read through the thread, there's a couple other folks who... also... had... similar experiences.
 

KidJr

Member
The vengeance is not what I'm concerned about right now!

Like, how are K and S doing right now? Have you ever tried to check up on them after that mess, or did you cut and run after ending up on the street? Because you seem okay right now, but I'm worried about those two with what you did to them, especially S! That's not the sort of shit that goes away!

Before I explain, I haven't really spoken to k, but she's doing well actually ended up marrying the bf and they're happy. I think it really did break her heart but She knows I'm sorry. Girl s is doing better, we actually speak now and I'd regard us as friends, like we've both grown up somewhat since than have spoken about the abortion. Even though I wasn't ready, it's a decision that I sincerely regret because as I've grown I've realised I love children. But you live and you learn.
 
When I was about 11, my cousin (also 11) stuck his dick up my butt. Not much of it, and nothing else happened and I wasn't forced, he took it back out after a few seconds. Between the ages of 13/14 I had anal/oral with two other guys, a family friend and another of my friends (also same age). I've only been attracted to girls, and have only had straight relationships since, as has every other of the guys involved. I'm not against the idea of experimenting with men more (or maybe transgender would be a better fit), which is odd because I'm still pretty much entirely attracted to girls, and if that makes me Bi I'm fine with that. It just seemed odd to me that I had that happen with 3 separate guys in my youth. It makes me wonder how common that kind of same-sex experimentation happens between young guys (and girls, I guess) and they just don't talk about we, or even how many guys are secretly bi and never act on it. I guess the popularity of shemale porn sort of answers that, though with no male/male attraction involved you could argue there's nothing gay about it. I'm not uncomfortable with any label anyone wants to attach to me, but I guess most guys that are interested in/have had experiences like this are and keep it all entirely private.

Well, when I was little (even younger than 11, if I remember correctly) me and a few of my guy friends regularly... tried some stuff out. I'll leave the details up to your imagination. Most of them turned out completely straight as far as I know.
One of them dates one girl after the other (sometimes at the same time) nowadays, yet he has very few problems about getting into bed with other guys. I don't think he gets attracted to men romantically though. I'm bisexual myself, though I have a preference for men.

We never really bring that stuff up anymore though. I'm pretty sure most of them have blocked it out of their memories by now.
 
Before I explain, I haven't really spoken to k, but she's doing well actually ended up marrying the bf and they're happy. I think it really did break her heart but She knows I'm sorry. Girl s is doing better, we actually speak now and I'd regard us as friends, like we've both grown up somewhat since than have spoken about the abortion. Even though I wasn't ready, it's a decision that I sincerely regret because as I've grown I've realised I love children. But you live and you learn.

Oh thank God, that's a lot better than what I was fearing. I'm glad they're okay. Still, man.... that's a lot of fuck-ups you pulled, I'll be honest. Almost a 101 of what NOT to do when multiple girls are interested in you. And it seems a bit scattered, so, do you mind if I post a summary of it that I've been working on?
 

esms

Member
Well, when I was little (even younger than 11, if I remember correctly) me and a few of my guy friends regularly... tried some stuff out. I'll leave the details up to your imagination. Most of them turned out completely straight as far as I know.
One of them dates one girl after the other (sometimes at the same time) nowadays, yet he has very few problems about getting into bed with other guys. I don't think he gets attracted to men romantically though. I'm bisexual myself, though I have a preference for men.

We never really bring that stuff up anymore though. I'm pretty sure most of them have blocked it out of their memories by now.

When I was younger, I had similar experiences. I turned out 98% straight. I wouldn't worry too much about sexual preference labels and just go with the flow.
 

Valus

Member
I was that dude who always had a gf, and in retrospect I've been a pretty decent bf with the exception of id always have a slightly inappropriate friendships with other females while having gf.

How could this even be said in the same sentence? Do you really think, in retrospect, that you have been a pretty decent bf? You haven't changed at all. You're a scumbag.
 
Soulfucker returns with the rest of the story of Vore Fox. I will warn you now... it did not end well. Depressing story to follow:

Soulfucker once again.

I think it's time I talked about Vore-Fox. Like, really talked about him. Not just about his fetishes and shit, but what kind of person he was, and what ended up happening to him, and what I did as a result. Fair warning to everyone reading, this is probably gonna get really wordy and maybe not all that coherent. Also sad, very very sad.

Vore-Fox did not have a very good lot in life. I learned quite a bit about him from our gmail chats, and he was a pretty insightful person, and I talked to him about some issues I was having in the RP we were both in, as well as some real-life issues I was having, and his advice made me feel a lot better and it was actually really helpful. I still wasn't gonna indulge his fantasies, though, still too freaky for me.

One day, he made a thread on a dead discussion board which was often used by other Rpers in our group, hidden through obscurity. By that point, he'd pretty much stopped Rping altogether, since pretty much everyone was uncomfortable with him and his fetishes, and he just talked. About his life, people that betrayed him, about being pushed rather hard at work, to the point of ACTUALLY VOMITING and still having to do his job, and then getting fired and the company fighting him on unemployment benefits. He also talked about his suicidal tendencies every now and then, and sometimes he went really deep into detail with his thoughts. He made it clear that he never told any of his family or real-life friends about it.

I'm telling you this so you know just how much I knew about him, and how much of a fucking idiot I was back then.

Because I had friended him on a social network. And he had his family members friended on there too. I never really messaged them, though, for reasons that made sense to me at the time. One, it would've made things really awkward between the two of us. Two, I never thought he was gonna act out on his thoughts of suicide, I thought that letting him have an outlet to vent and a place to talk to him would've done enough to keep him alive.

It didn't.

I found out by just looking at his social network wall one day. He left one message.

“I'm sorry. I failed you all.”

I find out later (through a memorial thread) that he shot himself through the head. He had a rather large gun collection.

And then I saw some of his family commenting, saying things like “Vore-Fox, you shouldn't have taken that route”, and they didn't seem to know why he killed himself. I pulled a stupid move, and I commented as well, asking if he “really offed himself”.

They didn't take it very well. They didn't take me very well as whole, actually. Because I was this dumbfuck on the internet who knew what Vore-Fox was really thinking, and didn't share it with his family. I at least shared the news of Vore-Fox's suicide with the other Rpers, and shared that one thread I was talking about earlier with one of Vore-Fox's brothers (who I'm gonna refer to as Wolf), to share with the rest of the family so they'd know why he did it, and they could at least have closure.

Wolf came into the thread and chewed all of us out, lashing out against everyone there for essentially doing nothing. He wasn't exactly wrong, but I put myself on the front lines like an idiot again, saying that I was the only one in the group who used a social network, so I was the only one that could've done something and the others didn't deserve such a harsh condemnation. That got him to threaten me with a wrongful death suit, which he didn't follow up on, but it was fucking devastating being on the business end of his grief and rage. It's not something I want to experience again.

Eventually, one of the Rpers (who I'll call Candy) made a thread on the main board we and Vore-Fox had frequented, to tell them of Vore-Fox's suicide.

That's when I learned I wasn't the only one who had friended him and knew his social network profile. There were a bunch of “RIP” comments on that “I failed you all” post Vore-Fox made, after Candy made the thread, and a few snippets from chat logs that those people had with Vore-Fox in the thread, and it hit me that nobody did a goddamn thing for Vore-Fox. Sure, they listened, sometimes, but we never really helped, we thought he was too freaky and most of us tried to sort of push him away like something unpleasant even though he was a ticking time bomb. If someone gave a damn, he might still be alive. I still feel guilty about this, YEARS after the fact, and enraged at myself whenever I think about it.

That's pretty much the entire point of me sharing all this. If GAFFers know anyone online who's dealing with suicidal thoughts, and they're in a situation like me where they find this person on a social network, and they have family members friended, take the fucking opportunity and message them, tell them everything that person has said to you, because while you might not be in a position to directly help them, they are. Don't hesitate for a single fucking second no matter how freaky this person might be, because if they take their own life, the guilt and the self-loathing is going to scar the hell out of you.

That's all I have for now. Please have a nice day, everyone.

Soulfucker sent links to the original forums and posts where Vore-Fox's issues were detailed, but I don't feel right posting them here, but suffice it to say, I think it's enough corroboration that this is a true story.
 

terrisus

Member
That's when I learned I wasn't the only one who had friended him and knew his social network profile. There were a bunch of “RIP” comments on that “I failed you all” post Vore-Fox made, after Candy made the thread, and a few snippets from chat logs that those people had with Vore-Fox in the thread, and it hit me that nobody did a goddamn thing for Vore-Fox. Sure, they listened, sometimes, but we never really helped, we thought he was too freaky and most of us tried to sort of push him away like something unpleasant even though he was a ticking time bomb. If someone gave a damn, he might still be alive. I still feel guilty about this, YEARS after the fact, and enraged at myself whenever I think about it.

That's pretty much the entire point of me sharing all this. If GAFFers know anyone online who's dealing with suicidal thoughts, and they're in a situation like me where they find this person on a social network, and they have family members friended, take the fucking opportunity and message them, tell them everything that person has said to you, because while you might not be in a position to directly help them, they are. Don't hesitate for a single fucking second no matter how freaky this person might be, because if they take their own life, the guilt and the self-loathing is going to scar the hell out of you.

When I was a moderator on Nintendo's NSider forum, any time anyone posted anything that indicated any sort of self-harm or suicide thoughts, we had a couple of police addresses that we had to forward stuff to in order to alert them of things.

More than a few times, people would be on the forum the next day being like, "Hey, why the heck did the police show up at my house yesterday?"

Plus, as a licensed teacher, that made me a mandated reporter of various other things as well.


Neither of those are applicable anymore though.
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Shame about Vore-Fox. I've called 911 once on someone I thought was gonna do it, and another time was part of a group effort at a smaller forum to stop one of the members from doing it. In the latter case, it eventually became a recurring joke about going to "a Taco Bell parking lot", since that's where he tried to do it. I cant imagine the police's reaction when they got a bunch of calls with just the vagueness of "My friend is about to kill himself and he is in a Taco Bell parking lot in your jurisdiction".
 

KidJr

Member
How could this even be said in the same sentence? Do you really think, in retrospect, that you have been a pretty decent bf? You haven't changed at all. You're a scumbag.


This has been their words to describe me as a boyfriend since the incident. I get I was opening myself up to critisism by posting it but I can deal with that. What I do hope is that cheater has read it and will not repeat my mistakes because although not as extreme I recognise some similar train of thought.

Girl k, was shocked she didn't want any of what happened to happen. She just wanted to the truth, because by this time she had broken up with bf as a last throw of the dice kinda thing. We took the longest to speak again and I wouldn't regard us as friends but I think it's all water under a bridge.

Girl b is good, like I said we are going a very very long time ago so we had our relationship broke up and we're all good. We meet up and talk etc. and have been decent friends.

Yeah you can summarise.
 

JC Sera

Member
To be fair, I know someone who had a certain type of chronic depression (it had a certain name)

who comments of a suicidal nature were a day to day thing
apparently someone didn't realise this
One day someone over the net called the police on them
They came back a week later and it was a[apparently one of the worst violations of their autonomy
and the fact an anonymous person on the internet can get them institutionalised (because they have a history with mental illness) with just a phone call terrified them
so just keep in mind its a double edged thing
 

vikki

Member
When I was about 11, my cousin (also 11) stuck his dick up my butt. Not much of it, and nothing else happened and I wasn't forced, he took it back out after a few seconds. Between the ages of 13/14 I had anal/oral with two other guys, a family friend and another of my friends (also same age). I've only been attracted to girls, and have only had straight relationships since, as has every other of the guys involved. I'm not against the idea of experimenting with men more (or maybe transgender would be a better fit), which is odd because I'm still pretty much entirely attracted to girls, and if that makes me Bi I'm fine with that. It just seemed odd to me that I had that happen with 3 separate guys in my youth. It makes me wonder how common that kind of same-sex experimentation happens between young guys (and girls, I guess) and they just don't talk about we, or even how many guys are secretly bi and never act on it. I guess the popularity of shemale porn sort of answers that, though with no male/male attraction involved you could argue there's nothing gay about it. I'm not uncomfortable with any label anyone wants to attach to me, but I guess most guys that are interested in/have had experiences like this are and keep it all entirely private.

There were a few guys who were rumored to have experimented like that in my high school. They have had girlfriends since and at least one of them I know is married and has kids now. My guess is that it's not all that uncommon to experiment.
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
To be fair, I know someone who had a certain type of chronic depression (it had a certain name)

who comments of a suicidal nature were a day to day thing
apparently someone didn't realise this
One day someone over the net called the police on them
They came back a week later and it was a[apparently one of the worst violations of their autonomy
and the fact an anonymous person on the internet can get them institutionalised (because they have a history with mental illness) with just a phone call terrified them
so just keep in mind its a double edged thing

I guess it's an important life lesson not to go around saying you're going to kill yourself, no matter how depressed you are. Other people care.
 
Summary of KidJr:

- 19-year-old Kid breaks up with his “first real gf”, as he puts it, and hits it off with another girl (called K) from his childhood who happens to be in town at the time and has a boyfriend of five years by this point and he starts developing feelings for her, and when she goes back home they continue calling and texting each other and all that. Boyfriend is made out to be clingy but really I think he was just starting to see the signs.

- Kid gets a job offer to move to London and talks to another girl he knew in high school (named S) and she has a spare room he can stay in, so he takes it. Girl S is about four years older than Kid, and she has a son of her own, about a year old. Also S and K live like five minutes from each other, so he's able to talk to K more, and at this point he makes it clear to the readers (us) that he knew that this could end up in a romance and that he was actually going for that (“I wanted her to be mine I didn't give a fuck about anyone else”). Also he ends up in S's bed at one point, they kiss, nothing beyond that, and she goes on a family holiday to America.

- He focuses his attention back on K. He says they talk “as friends, but more than friends should”. Boyfriend continues to get annoyed because Kid is right there in person now as opposed to talking to K over the phone. S emails Kid from the US, and, these are HIS words, she ended up “confessing she wanted to fuck me, like the 19 year old idiot I am I thought GREAT, I kinda liked girl s but at the time I certainly thought I was falling in love with girl K.” S apparently then started talking about how they were going to be an item and “playing happy family”. Everyone reading, please remember that last sentence, it's super important.

- S returns and she and Kid start fucking. Unprotected. Also he never tells Girl K about this arrangement, he lets her think they're just friends. And everytime they get suspicious and talk with each other, Kid “managed to manipulate the situation so they both hated each other”, and even manipulated wording with a conversation he had with S that K was listening to, just to keep the act up and keep K in the dark. For two months.

Now, I'm gonna skip ahead a bit, and by a bit, I mean “almost to the end”, but I'll pull back to the other stuff. I just wanna mention some things that KidJr sort of slipped in to the second-to-last paragraph of his confession. Remember that stuff about S wanting to play happy family? Well, at some point (it isn't made clear WHEN), Kid does two things with S.

1. S introduces Kid to her family.

2. That unprotected sex they were having resulted in her getting pregnant. And he had her abort the baby. He never went into any detail about HOW this happened, he just mentions that it happened.

Mentioning this now, to give more context to what comes later.

- He eventually realizes that he doesn't like Girl S that much, but he trapped himself with the sex and the living with her and the, well, the abortion.

Girl K is now thinking about her relationship with her current boyfriend, thinking about moving in on Kid apparently. So, with him having TWO girls in close proximity wanting him, he finds a girl (who is referred to as Girl B) on Facebook that he stood up one time. And then he vents everything to her. And one weekend he asks if he can just meet her, she says yes, he drives four hundred miles to another city, and then he falls in love with her. So he tells Girl K, who “couldn't make up her mind what she wanted”, that he met someone else. Next day, she breaks up with her boyfriend, kisses him in the car, and, these are Kid's words, I quote once again, “sounds so superficial but [it was] the worst kiss I've ever had I thought thank fuck I met girl b but I didn't tell her that, I told her I needed time”.

After that, Kid started to see Girl B every other weekend, juggling his time with K, S, and his actual job. He eventually stops giving a shit and tells B that he broke up with S (lying so he could get a chance with B), while girl K still holds out hope. And eventually, this house of cards starts to fall, and those two things I mentioned earlier get a chance to come into play.

One Sunday after seeing B, K's best friend phones Kid and asks where he is, and he replies he's coming back from a friend's house. But lo and behold, dat spider sense started tingling, and when he got back home, he looked threough the window, seeing K, her best friend S, and about 8 other guys with baseball bats, guns, and knuckle dusters. He decided that it wasn't a good time to go back in, and waited until 3 am to enter again. With his key. With a door on a latch.

Girl S was still there and she opened the door, but so were those other people, and Kid found himself with a gun to his head, and K came in and Kid confessed everything on the spot. Those 8 guys, though, they were part of Girl S's family, and they didn't like Kid one bit for what he just admitted to. So, they beat the crap out of him, forced his head into running bathwater with the gun still to his head, and he probably would have died if Girl S hadn't asked the dudes to spare his life. So instead they extorted him out of all his savings and he was thrown out onto the street, keeping this unfortunate series of events from his coworkers, living on buses and getting to work early until he got back up.

At some point, he entered an actual relationship with Girl B, but, well, with everything that happened above, their relationship lasted three years before breaking apart.

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[MY COMMENTS (since someone thought this was longer than the confession itself)]

I believe you when you say you've learned from this. At least, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, because I don't like being too cynical about people, it's exhausting. And you've probably said this to yourself a bunch of times, but this could have ended SO much worse for everyone involved. Especially Girl S, if you manipulated her into having that abortion, and you, because you would be dead right now if she didn't ask for your life to be kept.

In fact, just to sink this in, I'm gonna quote another Confession from an earlier thread. I'm aware this is probably the equivalent of Godwin's law here, but, well...

It's a doozy.

Before you made that post detailing how S and K are doing, I was fully prepared to point out how similar I thought you were to Doozy. Playing with a girl's heart like that just for a few fucks. I'm telling you right now, you are so lucky that you and S are on speaking terms. And even though I'm pulling the Doozy card, you're still better than him for two main reasons.

One, you confessed it (even if it was under extreme danger), you've learned from what you've done, and you've taken an approach that you would ensure you would never repeat it again.

Two, you made an effort to reconnect with some of the people you hurt, like S, and your actions somehow weren't so devastating that it ruined these people.

So if I can give you any advice at all, it's this:

Cherish what you've learned, and cherish that you've been able to turn yourself around as a person because of it, because unlike you, as far as I know, Doozy never did that.
 

IronRinn

Member
Dude fucks around a bit, manipulates / messes up some lives, doesn't feel particularly bad about it.

I like this. For those who, perhaps, want a bit more detail:

Dude dates two girls, who are friends. Makes one girl get an abortion at some point. Starts dating a third girl, then the first two find out about each other. Gets beaten up by some family members of the girl who he made get an abortion. Chalks the whole thing up to the folly of youth.

Maybe needs a bit more?
 
That's a summary?

Well, considering the original post,

Wtf at soulfucking?!

Anyway to the cheater, meant to type this earlier and hope you can take something away from this story. Don't mind sharing (seeing as everyone GAF likes to share everything lol) so I'll try keep this brief. I'm typing on my phone so I'll re-read and edit for grammar when I can.

I used to love women, part of my up bringing I think has to do with why I love the emotional attention so much but every since I lost my virginity I've pretty much been in a relationship lol. I was that dude who always had a gf, and in retrospect I've been a pretty decent bf with the exception of id always have a slightly inappropriate friendships with other females while having gf. Nothing sexual at first, just talking to them far too much getting to close until we both were started to develop feelings and that said female would then usually replace my gf in a messy break up.

Fast forward a few years and I've just broken up with my first real gf and randomly this girl I've known since childhood is in the same city as I am. We meet up old as friends etc. she's sharing a hotel with her best friend and it's all innocent at first. She's actually a really well sweet lady she has a bf of five years and we just chill, watch films etc and really hit it off. She's travelling back to London the next day so we exchange numbers and promised we'd keep in contact as friends because ya know who can't have friends. We will call this girl k. So even though she has a bf of five years we slowly begin to start texting more which leads to more phone conversations and she tells her bf I'm just a friend but I know his eyebrows are raised but what can he really say. I decide I like this girl (I geniunly did develop deep feelings for her) , but knew if I made a move it'd be over I didn't want to ruin our friendship so I kinda put it that to one side and we became closer and closer. To the point where she would call her bf at night have their little convo but then call me after to talk all night. We were really good friends but we still lived in different city's so as her bf became more and more annoyed (she just said we were friends and I think she was naive enough to believe that) it wasn't an issue.

Next thing I got a job offer to move to london (ahhh the start of my search career) and I needed a place to stay. Again just on Facebook im randomly talking to a girl who was in my school (high school) but was four or so years my senior, she actually amazingly had a spare room and said I could crash with her. We call this girl s. Randomly by pure chance k lived like 5 minute drive from s (which is pretty coincidental considering how big London is lol) so yeah I told k and she was over the moon. Her best friend was going to be a stone throw from her (her bf lived like an hours drive on the other side of London) so we'd be able to talk more face to face and do stuff. I should also make this clear i like this girl and I am well aware of what this will probably lead to (I wanted her to be mine I didn't give a fuck about anyone else) so I was also happy. Now girl s, I really think nothing of her in an sexual way, I never forget first day I move down she's cooking for me (forgot to mention s has a son as cute as hell about 1 years old or so) and I'm one of those dudes that again I dunno I always blur the lines even when they don't need to be blurred but yeah she's cooking and I put my hands her waist to hug her (friendly hug but ya know who does that lol) and she likes it. Let's just say by the time I was meant to sleep in the spare room I ended up her bed, we kissed but that was it. She was due to go on a family holiday the next day so she left early morning and I didn't think too much of it. Also as an fyi s and k kinda know each other (like have each other on fb but not friends or anything).

Girl s is America so I switch my attention back to k, we are talking (as friends but more than friends should) like she was one of those girls who probably couldn't handle what she was doing so wanted to feel it was innocent. We'd play pool, she'd come to my house (or girl s house lol) and we'd chill (she was also a virgin so I didn't even try play ANYTHING sexual initially) blah blah, her bf is seriously getting pissed but ya know what can he really say, we are just friends. After a few days girl s emails me from the usa like shall we talk about what happened and ended confessing she wanted to fuck me, like the 19 year old idiot I am I thought GREAT. So because she was older had a kid saw a guy that had pretty good prospects I think she latched on to me pretty quickly, I mean I kinda liked girl s but at the time I certainly thought I was falling in love with girl k. So girl s begins talking about how we are going to be an item when we get back play happy families etc. in my retarded immature head I thought this was excellent, I could have as much sex as I'd want chill with a cool girl and her son and still have my friendship with girl k.

Girl s returns and we hook up, starting having sex (which I must admit was pretty amazing), unprotected might I add and become an item. Girl k doesn’t have a clue, she knows I live with girl s but thinks we are just friends as does girl s think I’m friends with girl k… I feel like this story is a bit boring so I’m going to cut out a chunk to but yeah routine would be something like come home spend one day with girl s, maybe the next day after work I’d tell girl s I was visiting my friend girl k. However as time went on suspicions became aroused between both k and s (k by right had no reason to be asking questions or upset as she had a bf of five years but yeah) and I even when the spoke I managed to manipulate the situation so they both hated each other (I made k think s was crazy she they spoke on fb and she claimed to be my gf), I manipulated a conversation with girl s that allowed k to listen in to that with selective wording made it seem like me and s weren’t together. This went on for like two months or so.

Enter girl b, I’m getting pretty tired of all this now, its becoming stressful lol, literally juggling two women is an emotional drag drain. I’ve quickly realised I’m in a situation where I don’t like girl s but I feel trapped because I live with her and her son and I enjoyed the sex. Girl k now is starting to question her whole relationship with her bf because she’s slowly starting to realise she has feelings for me its all to much so…. I randomly start talking to this girl on fb, we kinda knew each other, I stood her up on a date previously she went on holiday but we lost contact and started talking again. At first she was honestly there for me to vent to, I told her everything, I told her I was deeply in love with girl k, but I was seeing girl s and how complicated my life was etc. Again I’m trying to keep this story short for some weird reason I remember… I started venting talking to girl b more and more… like really opening up, it was different to girl k is the only word I can use. Literally thought NOTHING of it, pure friendship just someone to allow my to clear my head with cus this situation was becoming intense (pictures would be up of my and girl s, girl k would be asking questionsm girl k would be phoning me at stupid o clock leading girl s to also question our “friendship”) and I remember thnking one weekend (never forget the date) I need a break. So I randomely asked girl b if I could see her, to my surprise she said yes, she lived around 400 miles away from me in a different city. But from the moment I met her I honestly knew I didn’t want anything to do with girl s or k anymore, girl k was dilly dallying around and couldn’t make up her mind what she wanted and I told her I met someone else. I never forget literally the next day she broke up with bf and kissed me in the car, sounds so superfisical but the worst kiss I’ve ever had I thought thank fuck I met girl b but I didn’t tell her that, I told her I needed time (I’m a douche you don’t need to tell me).

So now I think I’m falling madly in love with girl b, not really sure what to do with girl k and girl s just an after thought but we’re still sleeping together because it’s convienent and I live with her. My life consisted off sneaking away every other weekend to see girl b, juggling between girl k and s and trying to maintain a job lol (I had help from a close friend who covered for me). But it gets to the point where I stop caring, I tell girl b I’ve broken up with girl s (I’m building up to it but girl b wont do anything with me until I get out of situation) and I girl k still feels like there is hope for us. But I started to get sloppy, too sloppy.

I never forget the phone call I received one Sunday on a trip back from seeing girl b (who I’m head over heels about now btw and I did have intentions of getting out of my situation it was just a mess). Girl K’s best friend phones me to ask me where I am, which was weird but I just said on the way back from a friends house. But in the words of peter parker, sent my spider sense tingling. When I got back to the house something told me (she lived on the ground floor flat) to look through the window, low and behold girl k her best friend girl s and around 8 guys with baseball bats, I saw a few guns and knuckle dusters where there in the living room. I thought OMG Im dead, theres no way I can even go in there. So I was like I needed to get my stuff and just disappear. So I waited until like 3am in the morning and tried to sneak in with my key, door was on latch bad idea. Girl S came to the door and I saw my bags packed but there were other people in the house. Lets just say a gun was put to my head and girl k was called and I was made to confess and own up to everything. Girl s is what you Americans would call ratchet, and her male family members where not impressed with my treatment of her, I thought I was dead, I got beaten up badly, think something along the scene from training day where the Mexicans are about to kill the cop. My head forced in running bath with what I could only assume was some kind of .38 to my skull. In the end it took girl s to beg for them not to kill me for them not to do it. long story short I owed quite a lot of money and so had to be empty out my bank account and yeah was kicked out on the street, I was like homeless for a few weeks. No one at work knew, I was living on bus’s in parks and just getting to work early and showering etc until I got myself back on my feet.

Ever since then, I’ve thought you know what, its not worth it, I love my life too much to every play with a girls heart like that. A lot of people I talk to say she went too far but I honestly don’t think I would have ever learned otherwise. Like I missed out a lot (she had an abortion for me, introuduced me to her family girl s) like you cant play with peoples lives like that man, so to cheater you may see what your doing as harmless fun but someone has made a commitment to you which in my opinion is one of the most serious decisions a person can make. It’s really not fair to do people like that and I hope it doesn’t take a gun to your head to realise the mistakes. Like if anyone asks me what I value most in a relationship now, it’s honesty man, without you have nothing and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

p.s. me and girl b ended being in a three year relationship which was also destroyed due to her not being able to ultimately get passed the circumstances we got together.

kinda sorta maybe

I tried to trim down on a lot of the extraneous details but leave in a lot of the important details, it's a very messy story so I wanted to make sure it was easier to follow.
 

KidJr

Member
Before you made that post detailing how S and K are doing, I was fully prepared to point out how similar I thought you were to Doozy. Playing with a girl's heart like that just for a few fucks. I'm telling you right now, you are so lucky that you and S are on speaking terms. And even though I'm pulling the Doozy card, you're still better than him for two main reasons.

One, you confessed it (even if it was under extreme danger), you've learned from what you've done, and you've taken an approach that you would ensure you would never repeat it again.

Two, you made an effort to reconnect with some of the people you hurt, like S, and your actions somehow weren't so devastating that it ruined these people.

So if I can give you any advice at all, it's this:

Cherish what you've learned, and cherish that you've been able to turn yourself around as a person because of it, because unlike you, as far as I know, Doozy never did that.

Yeah this was many many years ago and it's never happened since then, wouldnt dream of it so yeah I do consider myself INCREDIBLY lucky to even be alive. Yeah my lessons have certainly been learned (wouldn't and have never even considered cheating since) and yeah I hope everyone who has posted their current cheating confessions can learn or take a little something away from it. We all make dumb mistakes (some more than others) just learn from them and move on, it's what life is all about.

And good summary by the way.

What does tl;dr stand for I'm still trying to figure out this abbreviation.
 
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