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43% support banning Muslims.
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New ABC / Washington Post poll for 2016 General Election
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43% support banning Muslims.
titiklabingapat
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Focusing on any one poll has tons of faults and none of the upsides. We should just have one general OT polling thread. Just please don't put in Community.
Byakuya769
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Wow.
Way to be pathetic registered Republicans.
Way to be pathetic registered Republicans.
gutter_trash
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Latinos are not going to go 100% to Clinton, you will have a 20% to 25% who will vote Trump for various reasons:
a)Ant-Castro older aged Cubans who lean Conservative.
b) Fuck You Got Mine Fiscally Conservatives. Bootstraps,
c) Ubber Religious and or Social Conservatives
It's kind of funny that Ted Cruz's father (Rafael) falls into all these Categories above.
but, voter turnout for anti-Trump Latinos will be sky high. Trump is going to have a major big problem and the damage is done. Mostly irreversible
a)Ant-Castro older aged Cubans who lean Conservative.
b) Fuck You Got Mine Fiscally Conservatives. Bootstraps,
c) Ubber Religious and or Social Conservatives
It's kind of funny that Ted Cruz's father (Rafael) falls into all these Categories above.
but, voter turnout for anti-Trump Latinos will be sky high. Trump is going to have a major big problem and the damage is done. Mostly irreversible
Bel Marduk
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and McDonnell was elected governor in 2010. I don't expect the trend to reverse but Virginia remains a purple state and could easily revert back to the Republican column if African American turnout dips. Obama only beat Romney by 3 points.
I am considering voting for Clinton. I'd never vote Trump.
Aaron Strife
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2009 and 4 points (rounding), actually.
It could but that's very different from "it will."
I believe McDonnell primarily won because it was the first opportunity to rebuke Obama at the ballot, so Republicans rushed to that. 2013 would have been expected to be the same but when a party hack like McAuliffe can win relatively easily that suggests the leftward shift is a bit more permanent. In fact Democrats won every statewide race that year.
RPGCrazied
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I'm one of those people that is going to vote against Trump, just cause I don't want him in the White House making decisions that would effect millions of lives.
Hillary is not my first choice, I was more a Sanders guy, but will gladly vote for her over Trump. There is nothing to consider, that simple.
There is more enthusiasm for Trump than there was for Romney. How Trump translates that enthusiasm into building a partywide coalition remains to be seen, though. It could be that even more Republicans sit out this election than they had when Romney and McCain were the nominees.
The Faceless Master
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43% support banning Muslims.
could just make a new thread about that poll. i think it would qualify...
seriously, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
Aaron Strife
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He certainly energizes a certain sect of the party more than those two - but at the expense of turning off every swing voter and minority. He still has the lowest favorable ratings in history, even if Clinton isn't much better off (and frankly I think she'll rebound once the primary is over).
I wonder how many Americans have actually never interacted with Muslims before, and their only exposure to the faith is news about ISIS and tv shows like 24?
Insulated communities are a hell of a thing.
Bel Marduk
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All I'm saying is that it could.
Also, I believe the corruption charges against McDonnell were a factor in the 2014 gubernatorial election.. and also the fact that Ken Cuccinelli is a Santorum-style conservative and Nova is pushing the state leftward on social issues.
Aaron Strife
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*2013. Virginia's gubernatorial elections are in off-years.
McDonnell and his wife weren't indicted until 2014 so I don't think it was as big of a factor.
Regardless - McAuliffe won what was supposed to be a difficult election. So did Herring and Northam. And Warner won what became a shockingly close election in 2014. I don't think Trump is suddenly going to be the one to make Virginia turn back.
DontBeThatGuy
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I could probably introduce you to a few.
Bel Marduk
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Ugh you replied before I could edit. I'm really bad with dates, sorry.
The 2014 election was a nail-biter. I think Clinton would still do well to select Warner as VP.
metalslimer
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Almost half the country wants muslims to be banned from entering the US. I imagine the number might actually hit 50 or higher if we had any kind of incident before the election.
GuyKazama
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No, probably not. Although a focus on jobs may give him better numbers than Romney in the end. Either way, if he doesn't, using that tool he can make that up with additional white turnout.
RPGCrazied
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Can I just say Trump loves to fear monger. Did you seem him after the Eygpt plane gone missing? This was before any facts about the plane was known. Not even a day passed and he was like:
So many people. The people you don't interact with long enough on an individual basis day-to-day.
Dem silent racists.
diablos991
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Good to see Trump trending upwards. Can't wait till the first debate when he crushes Clinton.
RPGCrazied
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It will definitely show a stark contrast who is actually fit to run for President, i.e not Trump.
Bel Marduk
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I don't see him crushing Clinton in a debate of any substance. He is, however, now leading her in the RealClearPolitics aggregate -- so he could come across as more likeable to some people.
The vast majority. Aren't only 1% of Americans Muslims?
diablos991
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I think by some people you meant the majority of Americans.
thesoapster
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Crooked Hillary will become Demolished Hillary? Yeah, let's see what happens...
Sure, if you ignore women and minorities...
Evil Monkey DTT
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Give it a couple months and Hillary will climb. I don't expect her to crush but I still expect her to win.
RPGCrazied
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I think around 5 points or so, maybe more after the debates where he looks like a complete uneducated fool on policies.
Wafflecakes
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Gotta love how the 90% of polls showing Hillary winning are never mentioned.
10% of polls showing good things for Trump get threads every time.
10% of polls showing good things for Trump get threads every time.
gutter_trash
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She will get several bumps along the way:
New Jersey seals the deal on June 7 bump.
Obama endorsement bump
Obama unity speech bump
Nomination at Convention bump
Debate victory bumps x3
New Jersey seals the deal on June 7 bump.
Obama endorsement bump
Obama unity speech bump
Nomination at Convention bump
Debate victory bumps x3
FBI investigation resulting in indictment.
BotoxAgent
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Yea but this will all be countered by the long-awaited Gingrich bump
RPGCrazied
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Yeah, if they were smart they should have went with Kasich, delegates or not. She loses to him in several polls, probably even Rubio.
Daft Bird
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I'll quote her top assistant to give you an idea what the debates will look like
"She gets confused"
Here Comes the Train folks. We have the best trains, run on libs tears and sweat. All aboard. But you have to come legally.
People like to panic. Diablosing is the poligaf passtime.
What about her future perp walk?
Arrogant Bastard
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Not gonna happen.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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I can never tell if this shit is facetious or not
nature boy
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Should the NBC poll (Clinton +3) also get a thread or only the pro-Trump ones?
Enter the Dragon Punch
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this damn pro-Trump narrative on GAF amirite
if you want the thread, why not make it?
gutter_trash
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Bel Marduk
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Nope. Clinton has lead Trump since the beginning of the race, only now is the tide starting to turn. Its a bit more threadworthy than the status quo.
Megadragon15
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Edit: Oops wrong thread.
nature boy
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SporeCrawler
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Trump gets the benefit of the post-clinch bump and the Republicans coming home. Hillary will get a similar boost once Bernie finally goes away and things will return to what they were two/three weeks ago where Clinton had a solid 5/6 pt edge.
National polls don't mean much though.
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Demographics and the electoral college's dem lean inherently mean this is Clinton's election to lose, regardless of what polls say. Trump would have to sweep every swing state and get into Dem territory for him to have a chance. These polls are good in that they scare people out of complacency. Every vote matters.
the real question is how many swinging states will trump convince, right?
That first GE preference poll is certainly collar tugging.
Temporary Muslim ban. Temporary. Because putting "temporary" in front of an asinine concept makes it less ridiculous. Like temporarily deleting gravity. Calm down, it's just temporary.
Those Hillary leading polls are boring.
43% support banning Muslims.
Yeesh. No wonder the Senate passed a bill allowing 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia and is even supported by both Hillary and Bernie...what a world
Don't forget the Sanders endorsement bump, unless you're including that in the deal sealing.
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