New DMC4 Screens -- Does Wario say wow?
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Didn't Ikusagami do like 65,000?Surreal said:
C- Warrior
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Doom_Bringer said:
Yes, because Lost Planet and Dead Rising were jaggy games. /end sarcasm -- it's the same ****in engine.
abacab driver
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Speevy said:
It was brought into the 'discussion' because its not for the 360.
EDIT: Beaten by KGKK
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abacab driver said:
Because no one thought HS looked better than DMC4 before that went exclusive. People who keep bringing this up must've never been in DMC4 thread before it went multiplatorm.
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Speevy said:
Indeed, but apparently HS is the new graphical showcase. I still think games like DMC4 and Sigma are more visually inviting to me than HS.
Big epic waterfalls and epic battles with epic retard dynasty warrior rejects and shit doesn't do anything for me.
And personally, the only thing more impressive about HS animations than DMC tends to come from the QTE/Shenmue inspired animations. As for the in-game animations, DMC4 is staccato, short quick and compact. Of course, HS will seem to have more elaborate animations because the game lends itself ot a more wild/button mashy approach where they can go wild for this.
But I'd rather have smooth, decent animations that are quick that lend itself to the gameplay, than long-winded ones that you get bored of for watching for the bajallionth time.
And then we have the fact that HS is near approaching done, and DMC4 is still listed as TBA. Ultimately, if screenshots sell games -- maybe it was a mistake for Capcom to make DMC4 60 fps. Maybe they should it down to 720p and 30 fps. And the damage control is do---
*gets sniped in the head and dies due to 30 fps comment*
Yeah pretty much, the Framework engine is capable of implementing 4x MSAA at 720p 30fps.C- Warrior said:
Probably because Capcom wants a locked 30fps, the MSAA used is dynamic, meaning whenever the load is higher on a particular scene, the AA will scale down to 2x or even to no AA.
Considering DMC4 is running at 60fps (1080p native!?), I'm not sure how they are gonna implement MSAA.
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gogogow said:
I understand what you're saying, DMC4 is demanding more than Lost Planet so it may not have as much anti-aliasing, but the screens show a pretty smooth, crisp game and Capcom is not known for bullshotting their screens as say team ninja or EA do.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Well, considered what the developers said, there'll be tons and tons and tons of animations and attacks (Nariko has a total of three major different battle-stances). I don't think we'll see long-winded animations bajallion times.C- Warrior said:
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Seiken said:
DMC3 had 6 styles, a combat system from the makers of Street Fighter Alpha, 15 bosses, 4 styles level-upable to 3 levels, 12 weapons fully upgradable and that differed upon what style you chose, 4 weapon instant changing, and EVEN DMC3, could get a bit repetative on Dante Must Die mode.
I think you'll see some repeats in HS, considering it's a 1st -out the gate- next-gen game with a build ground up engine, a lot of time was invested in the visuals, while taking away from content creation time I'd imagine.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah, DMC3 had tons of variations too. I played that game too much (even on DMD). But I still think that HS will have more animations than DMC4. What're the odds that DMC4 will have twice as many animations than DMC3?C- Warrior said:
gogogow said:
Is that really possible? On the PC, it takes awhile to turn on/off AA for any game so I'm not sure if it's possible to just dynamically alter AA without any interruption in play. I could understand it if you're talking about AA in one level and no AA in another level but dynamic split-second change in AA seems pretty hard to do.
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Nero + Dante 2P co-op would (will!) make it one of the best games of the next-gen consoles.Dave1988 said:
Now, if you could choose between Nero, Dante, Vergil, Lady, and Trish...
HS is one of my most anticipated titles, but the same comparison can be made to other games. FFXIII's white engine, MGS4, Lair, Little Big Planet, Ratchet and Clank, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Gears of War. All of these games are specifically built for the machine they are on. It allows MUCH better graphics and utilization of assets than a multiplatform game that has to be shoehorned onto each system.
But I have both; not many people do so I can understand if you are poor and can only afford one that the system WARS would mean something to you. I don't care about cost. I care about quality. Multiplatform games in general are constrained by their very nature.
But I have both; not many people do so I can understand if you are poor and can only afford one that the system WARS would mean something to you. I don't care about cost. I care about quality. Multiplatform games in general are constrained by their very nature.
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Seiken said:
It has twice as many playable characters for one
And you have to remember, HS is a new concept, a new engine (unless they used their last game : Kung Fu Chaos) which I doubt, so a lot of pre-development time.
DMC4, 3 years of development is mostly for pure-content I'd imagine. They know the concept (DMC1 / DMC3 kicked ass) they know the design system, they know the art style, they alreay have a pre-built engine, they know the mo-cap actors/VA and Just Cause Productions, they have gone on record saying DMC4 has more enemies/bosses than previous DMC games combined.
The odds of DMC4 having twice as many animations as DMC3 is VERY HIGH. Considering DMC3 in itself IS INSIDE OF DMC4 since Dante in a DMC4 carried over all of his attacks, styles, and weapons from DMC3 and then some. And Nero is all brand new. And they even hinted at 'extra playable' characters after game completion.
As for co-op -- DMC3 had the Doppleganger style co-op, and for one mission two people can co-op play as Dante and Vergil (although taht was offline)
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Seiken said:
And RE4, and Tomb Raider, and a bajallion of other games. I -am really- getting sick of that QTE shit.
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My Arms Your Hearse said:
DMC4 has looked better than many of the HS screens I've seen. I'll wait till they're both out to judge that.
You forgot to mention DMC4 has 60fps, and I don't believe HS is 1080p.
The two games obviously have different design goals.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
C- Warrior said:It has twice as many playable characters for one
And you have to remember, HS is a new concept, a new engine (unless they used their last game : Kung Fu Chaos) which I doubt, so a lot of pre-development time.
DMC4, 3 years of development is mostly for pure-content I'd imagine. They know the concept (DMC1 / DMC3 kicked ass) they know the design system, they know the art style, they alreay have a pre-built engine, they know the mo-cap actors/VA and Just Cause Productions, they have gone on record saying DMC4 has more enemies/bosses than previous DMC games combined.
The odds of DMC4 having twice as many animations as DMC3 is VERY HIGH. Considering DMC3 in itself IS INSIDE OF DMC4 since Dante in a DMC4 carried over all of his attacks, styles, and weapons from DMC3 and then some. And Nero is all brand new. And they even hinted at 'extra playable' characters after game completion.
As for co-op -- DMC3 had the Doppleganger style co-op, and for one mission two people can co-op play as Dante and Vergil (although taht was offline)
You've ****ing pumped me to the ****ing max! GIVE ME MY DMC4 NOW!
Also basically, what you're trying to say is that HS2 (?) will kick even more ass since they've got all their stuff and can now concentrate on the design system. Yup, kinda makes sense.
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Seiken said:
Also, this shit will look twice as good in motion - just like DMC4 (!!!!)
Am I the only one to think that the ONLY good pictures in HS were the CG related ones?
In my opinion the pictures you posted don't look great (to be nice).
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Seiken said:
Why do you think God of War 2, WAS LONGER, had more attacks, and more bosses than God of War 1, yet took so much less time in development.
Pre-development time /concept / pre-planning / engine development whatever you want to call it takes up a lot of time.
DMC4 re-using Lost Planet's engine is the smartest thing they could have ever done. Instead of wasting a year making a specified engine, they tweaked it, improved from an already graphically reveered game (Lost Planet) and spent that extra year designing new content.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Well done Capcom. This might be the answer why GAF keeps saying: "CAPGOD DOES IT AGAIN" over and over again?C- Warrior said:
*EDIT: Two posts in a row... ****. Sorry.*
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oo Kosma oo said:
NT didn't make that game, there are members from it that worked on it but there are also members from Sony developed games. The team is much bigger now that they're working on a game like HS.
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Innotech said:
Because they have a retarded belief that the PS3 is 234x's stronger than the 360, and making a game exclusive unlocks super powerful god/demon hybrid like graphics.
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Shemnue!C- Warrior said:
