New DMC4 Screens -- Does Wario say wow?

rod said:
so does graw 1/2. so does lost planet. so do many other games. i wish people would stop using that pathetic excuse for resistance's visuals. the game is ugly, period. even compared to some 360 launch WINDOW games. wanna hype up a ps3 games visuals? hype up motorstorm and vf5. ****ing gorgeous games. resistance is just.plain.ugly.

graw 1/2 and lost planet all experience slowdown at some point whereas resistance does not. therefore the no slowdown excuse is not entirely "pathetic".

to me, no slowdown is a very nice thing.
 
wasim007 said:
HS looks much better than DMC4.

I think DMC4 has been degraded graphically after it was announced for x360 which is understandable but it all comes down to gameplay which would be good no doubt.

:lol :lol

Silly fanboys.

DMC4 has always looked better than HS both graphically and artistically.
 
WickedLaharl said:
graw 1/2 and lost planet all experience slowdown at some point whereas resistance does not. therefore the no slowdown excuse is not entirely "pathetic".

to me, no slowdown is a very nice thing.



really? i played through lost planet recently and i didnt notice any bit of slowdown. i do however see graw dip sometimes from 60fps (nightvision) to 30, but i dont recall it ever dropping below 30. but really, can you honestly be happy with a game as bad looking as resistances just because "it never drops below 30fps"? the game looks bad for a next gen game LET ALONE a ps3 game. it just shocks me how many people can even be satisfied with such garbage graphics from such a hyped, next gen game. ive recently started to play a lot of multiplayer on it, and its a hell of a lot of fun, all this is JUST talking about its visuals. but yeah, if resistance never dropped below 60fps? impressive. NOT OVERLY though, but then id cut it a lot more slack. as it stands though, resistance definately stands as one of the worst looking high profile next gen games, ever.
 
WickedLaharl said:
or maybe you should up your standards for this generations games?

the wii is excused

I dunno, I'm not the one that called this or other great looking games ugly.
Call them underwhelming if you wish, but nothing showed is ugly.
So i'll keep my stance, many people need their eyes checked.
 
rod said:
so does graw 1/2. so does lost planet. so do many other games. i wish people would stop using that pathetic excuse for resistance's visuals. the game is ugly, period. even compared to some 360 launch WINDOW games. wanna hype up a ps3 games visuals? hype up motorstorm and vf5. ****ing gorgeous games. resistance is just.plain.ugly.

This is news to me. I actually thought it looked pretty. Should take this to resistance thread though. This is about DMC4 pictures.

Edit" Wow at your post after. I feel so dirty now.
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
This is news to me. I actually thought it looked pretty. Should take this to resistance thread though. This is about DMC4 pictures.



hey, i agree totally (about this being about dmc4 pictures), but since logan brought up resistance....
 
really? i played through lost planet recently and i didnt notice any bit of slowdown. i do however see graw dip sometimes from 60fps (nightvision) to 30, but i dont recall it ever dropping below 30. but really, can you honestly be happy with a game as bad looking as resistances just because "it never drops below 30fps"? the game looks bad for a next gen game LET ALONE a ps3 game.
You need new eyes or something...

For one thing, all of those games (LP and the two GRAW games) have plenty of slowdown (ESPECIALLY the GRAW titles). There isn't simply bouts of slowdown in GRAW, no, there are entire sections that fail to hold 30 fps. The game dips constantly. Doesn't change the fact that they are incredible looking games, of course.

I also think Resistance is a lovely game. It has an appearance similar to that of games like Half-Life 2 and just looks really nice. The further you play, the better it looks.
 
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wow.


comparing half life 2's graphics (art OR technicallity) to resistance...


i really must have like a pre alpha/beta of resistance or something. half life 2 and resistance shouldnt even be mentioned within 100 threads of each other. but whatever! it looks like i need "new eyes" or a new copy of resistance.
 
rod said:
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wow.


comparing half life 2's graphics (art OR technicallity) to resistance...


i really must have like a pre alpha/beta of resistance or something. half life 2 and resistance shouldnt even be mentioned within 100 threads of each other. but whatever! it looks like i need "new eyes" or a new copy of resistance.
Why not explain yourself?

Technically, Resistance is doing more than HL2. Artistically, HL2 has the advantage, but Resistance is no slouch. What do you find so ugly about the game?
 
this will be the last post in this thread because il either be banned for "derailing" even though i didnt bring up resistance in the first place :lol ORRR because im going to sleep.


but anyway, resistance has AWFUL textures, AWFUL color scheme, maybe just MAYBE the worst water in next gen yet, low poly environments, man theres just so much that looks last gen in hd to me in resistance, the ONLY things that look DECENT to me (note: decent, not great by any means) is the character models in the cutscenes, the cutscenes in general, and the chimera/bosses. cant believe resistance was compared to half life 2. the game absolutely wipes the floor with resistance even on a mid spec pc with medium settings. i never really saw any point in resistance where i said to myself "whoa, look at HOW MUCH is going on and its not dropping below 30fps!!. i was never, ever impressed with resistances visuals, and it bewilders me, till today, how many people like its graphics AND its art style, which, i think, is as bad as its technical side of the visuals.



but yeah dmc4 looks great!!:lol
 
rod said:
resistance definately stands as one of the worst looking high profile next gen games, ever

wow, talk about hate, it seems you have not played the same Resistance the rest of the world has.

rod said:
I played through lost planet recently and i didnt notice any bit of slowdown

you didn't notice? strange since you seem so concerned with graphics. Again, you have not played the same Lost Planet the rest of the world has... it's better to come here and openly say "I hate Resistance" than make doubtful statements.

rod said:
the game absolutely wipes the floor with resistance even on a mid spec pc with medium settings

I'm speechless now
 
Lince said:
wow, talk about hate, it seems you have not played the same Resistance the rest of the world has.



you didn't notice? strange since you seem so concerned with graphics. Again, you have not played the same Lost Planet the rest of the world has... it's better to come here and openly say "I hate Resistance" than make doubtful statements.



I'm speechless now

I don't recall any major frame-rate drops in Lost Planet...some screen-tearing here and there but I remember that the game even in the most crowded situations run at a steady 30fps.
 
rod said:
this will be the last post in this thread because il either be banned for "derailing" even though i didnt bring up resistance in the first place :lol ORRR because im going to sleep.


but anyway, resistance has AWFUL textures, AWFUL color scheme, maybe just MAYBE the worst water in next gen yet, low poly environments, man theres just so much that looks last gen in hd to me in resistance, the ONLY things that look DECENT to me (note: decent, not great by any means) is the character models in the cutscenes, the cutscenes in general, and the chimera/bosses. cant believe resistance was compared to half life 2. the game absolutely wipes the floor with resistance even on a mid spec pc with medium settings. i never really saw any point in resistance where i said to myself "whoa, look at HOW MUCH is going on and its not dropping below 30fps!!. i was never, ever impressed with resistances visuals, and it bewilders me, till today, how many people like its graphics AND its art style, which, i think, is as bad as its technical side of the visuals.



but yeah dmc4 looks great!!:lol
Awful textures? They certainly aren't great, but they aren't bad either. That is the weakest aspect of the visuals.

Textures really aren't bad...

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The color scheme I like (for the most part as the first few levels are rather dull looking) and the water is very cool (totally different approach from most others).

Now, low poly environments? You're simply wrong on that. That is where the game excels. HL2 doesn't even begin to compare on that front.

You really think this looks terrible (some nice DCharlie shots here)?

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WOW, Resistance looks really awesome! It sucks that I still haven't played the game...definitely the best looking PS3 game thus far.
 
Pureauthor said:
Oh, for...

Screenshot wars, dark10x? I thought you were better than this.
No, I love screenshot wars (at specific times, anyways). This is basically a graphics thread anyways.
 
dark10x said:
No, I love screenshot wars (at specific times, anyways). This is basically a graphics thread anyways.

:(

I came into here expecting to see people discuess how awesome DMC4 was going to be, not a mud-flinging competition about Resistance and GRAW and whatever else.
 
Pureauthor said:
:(

I came into here expecting to see people discuess how awesome DMC4 was going to be, not a mud-flinging competition about Resistance and GRAW and whatever else.

That is not the forum I signed up to! Go back to /b/!

DMC4 looking great btw. All over that at release.
 
dark10x said:
Awful textures? They certainly aren't great, but they aren't bad either. That is the weakest aspect of the visuals.

Textures really aren't bad...

The color scheme I like (for the most part as the first few levels are rather dull looking) and the water is very cool (totally different approach from most others).

Now, low poly environments? You're simply wrong on that. That is where the game excels. HL2 doesn't even begin to compare on that front.

You really think this looks terrible (some nice DCharlie shots here)?
I've just finished Resistance (PAL) two days ago.
I'd understand when people say that the graphics in Resistance are dull or weak etc., when they've only seen some E3 footage or played the first couple of levels. Because the cities do look kinda boring, they look very grayish and brownish, lacks lighting etc..

The graphics do get better, that's because of the Chimeran architecture, it's looks more interesting than your average city warzone, there's more and better lighting (I like the blue lighting!), it's shinier and even more polygons are pushed in those levels. But imo, the graphics never gets to a point where it's OMG amazing.
This is mostly due to the fact that Insomniac never really pushes the use of shader effects, like there's no selfshadowing and or shadowmaps, minimal use of bloom, HDR, bumpmapping/normalmaps and glossmaps. Most of the walls and ground uses flat textures, but once in a while bumpmapping is used.
The weird thing is all the stairs looks so damn good, because of the highres textures and glossmap.

In short, the effects used are very, very inconsistent, like the shadows, in some levels, everything, literally everyhting, from chairs to tables to little wires to the tubes above you casts shadows when you turn on the flashlight, but in other levels they don't.

OTOH, the characters, chimerans etc looks very nice due to the use of normalmaps.
But it's really the environment that's lacking effects.

If Insomniac uses more shader effects, more blur, more bloom, more HDR in the next Resistance, it's definitely gonna wow people.

But the most important thing is, Resistance is a fun game, online rocks!
 
Man Resistance is a good looking game I never understood why people said otherwise

Anyway after looking at these screens and downloading the PSN trailers yesterday I gotta say that DMC4 looks great
 
jjasper said:
Man Resistance is a good looking game I never understood why people said otherwise

Anyway after looking at these screens and downloading the PSN trailers yesterday I gotta say that DMC4 looks great

PSN trailer? Where!?
 
M3Freak said:
PSN trailer? Where!?

there are two on the japan store, I can give you a link on how to set up an account if you like.

PS it makes no sense for them to not be on the US site, they are English there isn't anything to do other than put them up.
 
rod said:
it looks....like lost planet may cry!!!:lol no seriously. this is a great engine capcom has made. no problems with it. can DEFINETLY see the lost planet-nss of it showing thru

That was my first reaction by far. I think it was the motion blurred shot that really gave it away.
 
Logan Cano said:
Since when have Dead Rising and Lost Planet been graphical showcases?? Both suffer from horribly low polygon counts in both the environments and in the characters, low res textures and poor lightning. I´ve seen them both, and both have been underwhelming.

Pity DMC4 is in the same group, just think how awesome it could have looked like if Capcom did the game on an engine written especifically for the PS3.


So if your point of view is correct then the much anticipated RE5 goes to the same group, right? (it uses the Capcom's new dev enviroment/in-house engine)
Not judging from the 2005 teaser where the visual quality is unreachable. (see Tekken 6)
 
Aggelos said:
So if your point of view is correct then the much anticipated RE5 goes to the same group, right? (it uses the Capcom's new dev enviroment/in-house engine)
Not judging from the 2005 teaser where the visual quality is unreachable. (see Tekken 6)

Yeah, pretty much. My expectations for RE5 are seriously low in the graphics department since AFAIK it also uses the Framework engine.
 
So wait a couple pages ago people were talking about HS and now all of a sudden it's all about Resistance?

What the **** is going on in this thread?
 
PepsimanVsJoe said:
So wait a couple pages ago people were talking about HS and now all of a sudden it's all about Resistance?

What the **** is going on in this thread?

Well discussions usually include examples or things that aren't the main focus. Don't see why you act like it's odd that someone mentioned HS, or another game to carry whatever point they may have had. It's like talking about MJ without being able to mention Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson because someone would go "wait wait, hold up why are people bringing those players into this thread"? As long as they stay on topic, and provide a pretty good reason for bringing those games into the discussion, it shouldn't be a thing to be astricastricastric amazed at.
 
Ploid 3.0 said:
Well discussions usually include examples or things that aren't the main focus. Don't see why you act like it's odd that someone mentioned HS, or another game to carry whatever point they may have had. It's like talking about MJ without being able to mention Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson because someone would go "wait wait, hold up why are people bringing those players into this thread"? As long as they stay on topic, and provide a pretty good reason for bringing those games into the discussion, it shouldn't be a thing to be astricastricastric amazed at.

I don't think it's odd. I just say what the **** because the entire damn thread is going downhill. It'd be one thing to compare similar games but here I am looking at Resistance screenshots.

WickedLaharl: I blame you for this.

Gattsu25 said:
This thread started going downhill on post #6

yes, I think so

Post #6 said:
It looks okay, but I've seen better

I agree with Gattsu actually.
 
gogogow said:
The graphics do get better, that's because of the Chimeran architecture, it's looks more interesting than your average city warzone, there's more and better lighting (I like the blue lighting!), it's shinier and even more polygons are pushed in those levels. But imo, the graphics never gets to a point where it's OMG amazing.
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I agree with you. Resistance doesn't look as bad as Rod thinks but it doesn't look as good as the Resistance fans think either. All the people killing Rod by saying that he's either blind or playing some other version of resistance need to read some professional reviews. Resistance's graphics is far from universally respected although Rod is being a little extreme with his criticisms. Also, 30fps in a FPS on a supposedly revolutionary next-gen machine is nothing to be proud of. And that also goes for all 360 shooters that are 30fps, regardless of whether it's locked at 30 or not. Finally, DMC4 looks great even by this gen's standards although I still have my doubts that the console versions will be running at 60fps/1080P.
 
Hell, I wouldn't care if Capcom had made DMC4 360 exclusive and improved on the LP engine. I'd just like to see SOME improvement in the graphics no matter what the platform. My disappointment is it looks exactly like LP, and the other 360 games with ZERO improvement whatsoever.

Capcom is just being lazy, and as a result DMC4 and probably RE5 will not bed as impressive as they could. Multiplatform should just die a horrible death. IMO
 
Z3F said:
All the people killing XXX by saying that he's either blind or playing some other version of XXX need to read some professional reviews.

:lol
You're right, thinking with our own brain is overrated.
 
judging two incomplete games is pretty stupid especially this gen because some developers don't add effects until the gameplay is in place.

Come on guys stop this!
 
Logan Cano said:
It's not that difficult really, I'll help you understand. Had Capcom decided to make DMC4 the best game it could, it would have developed an engine specific to the PS3 in order to have the best graphics possible in addition to the best gameplay possible.
then you are assuming that a ps3 version will undoubtedly have better graphics than a 360 version. but where exactly is the validation for that? one could simply say since capcom has more experience in making 360 games, a 360 exclusive engine will probably provide more technical wizardry. i still dont understand you. logan. i mean yeah, if motostorm is your validation then you could count me out. i think it looks fantastic, yet nowhere near those first videos.

as for the best game arguement, by your argument the pc would be the best platform to develop on, judging by crysis. since crysis is the best looking game of all time. which by the way, isnt an opinion, its plain fact.

so basically, if dmc4 were to reach its "full potential", "zenith" if you will, they should have made it exclusively for the pc, with an exclusive controller that catered exclusively to the mechanics of dmc4. since we are talking about potentials and all. lets dicuss more on this issue logan, i am eagerly awaiting your caustic response, my heart is beating faster already.
 
Lain said:
:lol
You're right, thinking with our own brain is overrated.

Just saying that he's not the only one who doesn't think it doesn't look great. Btw, this thread blows donkey balls. C-warrior, I almost feel sorry for you. :lol
 
Z3F said:
Just saying that he's not the only one who doesn't think it doesn't look great. Btw, this thread blows donkey balls. C-warrior, I almost feel sorry for you. :lol
People like you are seriously not helping the situation.
 
Dahbomb said:
People like you are seriously not helping the situation.

How's that different from you calling this thread atrocious? It's obviously useless at the moment to continue analyzing anything in a logical manner. Most of the people just aren't listening anymore. We need a reboot.
 
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