That's not always true. Goku was out of the picture for much of the Saiyan, Namek and Cell sagas.
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New Dragon Ball TV Series Announced: Dragon Ball Super
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That's not always true. Goku was out of the picture for much of the Saiyan, Namek and Cell sagas.
Saiyan saga: Came in and swept up the pieces
Namek saga: Became Super Saiyan and beat Frieza
Cell saga: Gave way to Gohan
So, 1/3? He's the good guy equivalent of the Big Bad.
Could this potentially push him toward evil again? That would be super cool if he did it to get strong to defeat a villain, but then ended up icing them to become the villain himself. It would also be interesting for his character. Let's face it, he's gotten kind of boring, even if some people like boring grandpa Piccolo.
Indeed!
I never thought I'd see the day T.T
Now all we need is a Gundam renaissance.
I wasn't telling them what to do, I was just saying some things that I wanted to see, I'll still be watching it regardless
Enter the Dragon Punch
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I wouldn't mind seeing him use the Great Namek form for the first time since Dragon Ball, either.
GrandHarrier
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Even if he's the closer you had epic fights that didn't involve him at all until the very end.
Oh, I know. I hope you see everything of that and more.
Funny thing is, that was actually something explored in a number of games, such as Supersonic Warriors 2. Piccolo being reunited with his full power put him on par with SSJ3 Goku according to that what-if. Only Toriyama knows how much of that would be actually true.
But hey, "Super Demon King Piccolo" would be a nice thing to see happen legit.
When he merged with Kami he became all good and saintly, so why not?
Son Goku vs the character he's based on would be a nice watch.
I wonder if they will go this route with exploring all of the other potential Gods that were mentioned.
Shamrock7r
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I wonder if they will go this route with exploring all of the other potential Gods that were mentioned.
A lot of those designs are meh. The one on the bottom middle looks like a generic furry cosplay costume. I hope the designs are more original because I am sure the show will explore the alternate universes
ArchedThunder
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I'm sure Funi will jump on that, no need to worry.
Sure, but doesn't that constitute 'heavy lifting'? He came in and finished what the other chumps couldn't.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
This is great news. I have only one wish:
Make Goten and Trunks important!!! (And older)
Make Goten and Trunks important!!! (And older)
Young Vinny Caravella in the back, on the right
I'm guess and say that Tien is stronger then Krillin. Hell I'll go on a limb and say Yamcha is stronger then him.
LOL they nerfed Krillen so bad in DBZ
DiipuSurotu
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Yeah hopefully they give the two halves of Gotenks a bit of personality.
bearythebear
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I'd watch it when the dubs come out. Japanese Goku sounds like a wimp.
pretty much why I can't get excited for it. At least with dragon ball was an adventure and every member of the team felt necessary or at the very least interesting. I see this being rehashed plot lines; a new foe threatening earth etc..
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Really hoping so.
Goten at the end of Z had the best design in his family. Then GT fucked it all up.
Really hoping so.
Goten at the end of Z had the best design in his family. Then GT fucked it all up.
Goten looks like Yamcha 2.0
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Jigolo
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I wonder if they will go this route with exploring all of the other potential Gods that were mentioned.
Seem similar
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Fuck yes. These two have so much potential, especially with these designs.Really hoping so.
Goten at the end of Z had the best design in his family. Then GT fucked it all up.
Fun fact: According to the Xenoverse/DB Online story, which could be considered series canon until contradicted, the two of them eventually found a sword school based on Gohan's ki research. Turning them into ki-wielding swordsman would give them a unique flair compared to the other characters.
Chi Chi...!
The mafuba never worked and Tien got thrown into Yamcha territory right after that fight. It's the DB formula. Goku fights someone equally as strong as him. He beats them, or barely loses, and Goku's opponent gets taken out in two seconds by the next villain to show how strong they are. Krillin managed to stay somewhat relevant due to not doing much of anything in Dragon Ball so he never had that Goku's main opponent curse. The second-tier guys get a few moment to shine. But, the second tier is constantly pushing old characters down when people like Vegeta, Piccolo and the half-saiyans became second tier.
Outside of the Cell saga, they were mainly just stalling for Goku the entire time.
Nah.
Chi Chi's got some explaining to do D:
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Ech, now I want to play Xenoverse again.
Yamcha was the real winner of Dragon Ball.
GrandHarrier
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If you want to look at it that way, sure. Part of the appeal of the Saiyan Saga was the fact that you knew that they were just playing for time until Goku got back and yet there were times that you could legitimately have thought, "Oh shit, they're gonna beat Nappa!" Yeah, Vegeta still waited in the wings, but you could get fucking pumped that they were so close to scoring a win.
Vermillion
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Instead of Super Saiyan God, Super Namekian Devil? Probably what they'd name it. It'd be pretty cool, imo.
I wonder if they will go this route with exploring all of the other potential Gods that were mentioned.
Is it just me or does the girl on the right on the third row look like a female Raizen from Yu Yu Hakusho?
The mafuba is what originally trapped piccolo daimaou in the first place, and it works during the 23rd budokai.
Oh yeah, I wouldn't disagree at all. It just would be nice if he wasn't almost always the end game of the side of good, and someone else could finish a job.
Japanmanx3
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Is it happening guys? GT buried and gone forever now!? I might cry...
Meh, Master Roshi could destroy the moon (our moon is huge - 2% of the earth's volume), meaning that saiyan saga base goku (no kaioken) could blow up the earth (as could Vegeta).
The sun is 1,305,700 earth volumes, and 330,000 earth masses - in other words, when Frieza fought Goku (in the Frieza Saga), he would still have had to increase his power level by a factor of ~22 (going by mass) or ~87 (going by volume) to destroy the Sun.
He would then have to increase his power by a factor of ~10 trillion (going by volume) to destroy the solar system.
In other words, Frieza, circa Frieza Saga, times 870 trillion, equals solar system buster. Forget star clusters, galaxies, or universes.
There's plenty of room for power increases
ArchedThunder
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GT was completely destroyed with the introduction of SSGSS.
And don't forget that at the end of BoG Beerus said there are more Universes that have fighters even stronger than him.Meh, Master Roshi could destroy the moon (our moon is huge - 2% of the earth's volume), meaning that saiyan saga base goku (no kaioken) could blow up the earth (as could Vegeta).
The sun is 1,305,700 earth volumes, and 330,000 earth masses - in other words, when Frieza fought Goku (in the Frieza Saga), he would still have had to increase his power level by a factor of ~22 (going by mass) or ~87 (going by volume) to destroy the Sun.
He would then have to increase his power by a factor of ~10 trillion (going by volume) to destroy the solar system.
In other words, Frieza, circa Frieza Saga, times 870 trillion, equals solar system buster. Forget star clusters, galaxies, or universes.
There's plenty of room for power increases
Spinosaurus
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Okay who else read this in TFS Krillin's voice?
Bluekaveli
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Gohan is King?
So, what's the general thought on Kai around here? I'm kind of wanting to watch DB and DBZ, but I don't think I could sit through the original DBZ. I just...couldn't do it, I don't think.
What is this? I would Super Saiyan God, but what's the other SS?
What is this? I would Super Saiyan God, but what's the other SS?
Really hoping so.
Goten at the end of Z had the best design in his family. Then GT fucked it all up.
GT design of Goten > End of Z design of Goten.
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
Yes, it's true.
Pop-O-Matic
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Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
ArchedThunder
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Vermillion
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I wonder what kind of strain Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 would put on the body.
Or Legendary Super Saiyan Legendary Super Saiyan God 3.
LSSLSSG3. Nice.
Or Legendary Super Saiyan Legendary Super Saiyan God 3.
LSSLSSG3. Nice.
Paracelsus
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Arguably dumber than Mystic Gohan going Super Saiyan. This whole thing turned worst than a fanfiction.
ArchedThunder
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Dunno, but we'll probably never see it because Toriyama said Goku will stick to base and Super Saiyan going forward(SSGSS). Well, they'll probably put it in Dragon Ball Heroes.
Uh, didn't Roshi go head to head with complete Piccolo? There's no way he was near SSJ3. Or even regular Saiyan for that matter.
ArchedThunder
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Piccolo after merging with Kami is stronger than Goku was as a Super Saiyan on Namek apparently.
For some context, it is explained in the movie as just being what Super Saiyan becomes for someone who has mastered Super Saiyan God.
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