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New Girl Season One |OT| Zooey Deschanel is f***ing cute, got it?

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ivysaur12

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It is interesting how divided people are on which characters they don't like or label the worst. About the only consistency is that everyone loves Schmidt.

I like everyone except Cece and Winston, but they sort of got backed in a corner with Winston. Everyone else is gold.

Youths!
 
Cece is just window dressing really. And someone for Schmidt to obsess over. And Winston is just laid back and barely there, so I am glad he is getting some development.
 

Jasoco

Banned
YOUTHS!

My god I love Schmidt.

This episode was just great. I love this show. Possibly my favorite new show this season if not the only new show I've been watching.

"What do I have to do to get a one night stand around here?"

Oh honey, you can one night stand me. Every night. Please. Thanks.

Oh, and dat ending? Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu--
 

Arcteryx

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Picked this up on a whim with the gf this weekend. Marathoned up to the current episode...gotta say, we were both surprised how funny it actually was.
 

Card Boy

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I hope the Bluray doesn't have this cover on it whenever it comes out.

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Yami

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Good ep. Loved the cutaway gags, and how fucking weird Schmidt is with his cheese. Damn.

Worthy for this though:
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big ander

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Problem with the ep: the cactus way of breaking up Nick was too quick and random. They should have touched back on the other little reasons in previous episodes that made them not work.

Worth it for sad Nick though. Rest of the episode was pretty funny too, with Schmidt again being the best.
 

ivysaur12

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Problem with the ep: the cactus way of breaking up Nick was too quick and random. They should have touched back on the other little reasons in previous episodes that made them not work.

Worth it for sad Nick though. Rest of the episode was pretty funny too, with Schmidt again being the best.

But that's the problem - the show is the Schmidt show. They have one very strong character, two underused ones, and whatever Winston is.

If the show is truly going to succeed as an ensemble show, they need to start utilizing Nick and Jess for a quick joke just as much as they use Schmidt. And Winston needs to start to textualize into a real, funny character.
 

big ander

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But that's the problem - the show is the Schmidt show. They have one very strong character, two underused ones, and whatever Winston is.

If the show is truly going to succeed as an ensemble show, they need to start utilizing Nick and Jess for a quick joke just as much as they use Schmidt. And Winston needs to start to textualize into a real, funny character.

I thought Jess and Nick were used well in this episode; they weren't as funny as they can possibly be, but the half-hour had a good division between Jess, Nick and Schmidt.

I even think Winston's been improving. His relationship with that one girl was good, and he had a few nice lines in this episode.
 

Danielsan

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But that's the problem - the show is the Schmidt show. They have one very strong character, two underused ones, and whatever Winston is.

If the show is truly going to succeed as an ensemble show, they need to start utilizing Nick and Jess for a quick joke just as much as they use Schmidt. And Winston needs to start to textualize into a real, funny character.
Ehh I think Nick and Jess have plenty of funny moments of their own as it is. Hell I love Schmidt, but Nick is actually my favourite character. Winston is definitely underutilized though.

The thing is. If they put too much (over the top) comedy on all characters it becomes overbearing and you lose that sense of these characters being real people. Schmidt's crazy outbreaks are just the right amount, but if you start adding that type of comedy to all the characters it will all fall apart. It's my issue with Happy Endings, aside from the fact that the writing just isn't funny. All the characters on that show are just empty caricatures. They don't seem like actual people in any way and are clearly written so that they can deliver an endless stream of mediocre comedy.
 

ivysaur12

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Ehh I think Nick and Jess have plenty of funny moments of their own as it is. Hell I love Schmidt, but Nick is actually my favourite character. Winston is definitely underutilized though.

The thing is. If they put too much (over the top) comedy on all characters it becomes overbearing and you lose that sense of these characters being real people. Schmidt's crazy outbreaks are just the right amount, but if you start adding that type of comedy to all the characters it will all fall apart. It's my issue with Happy Endings, aside from the fact that the writing just isn't funny. All the characters on that show are just empty caricatures. They don't seem like actual people in any way and are clearly written so that they can deliver an endless stream of mediocre comedy.

See that's just wrong because Happy Endings is the comedy that New Girl wishes it was, and probably could be, if they gave a shit about anyone beyond Schmidt. The show obviously doesn't want to be a "grounded" comedy, so why even pretend? Right now it's straddling in the middle and suffering because of it.

Maybe Jess has her moments, but Nick doesn't. He's just a guy that's defined by his relationships. Same with Winston. And that's a huge issue.
 

wenis

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Ehh I think Nick and Jess have plenty of funny moments of their own as it is. Hell I love Schmidt, but Nick is actually my favourite character. Winston is definitely underutilized though.

The thing is. If they put too much (over the top) comedy on all characters it becomes overbearing and you lose that sense of these characters being real people. Schmidt's crazy outbreaks are just the right amount, but if you start adding that type of comedy to all the characters it will all fall apart. It's my issue with Happy Endings, aside from the fact that the writing just isn't funny. All the characters on that show are just empty caricatures. They don't seem like actual people in any way and are clearly written so that they can deliver an endless stream of mediocre comedy.

bingo. I don't want a whole show full of schmidt's, as much as I love the guy. It would just be so boring and over done. You need Nicks constant self hatred and pesimisstic views, Jess's over the top girly thing, Cece's hotness and Winston looks good when he's in the background sitting on the couch, or in the background at the bar talking to unnamed extras, or talking to a frightened child....

See that's just wrong because Happy Endings is the comedy that New Girl wishes it was, and probably could be, if they gave a shit about anyone beyond Schmidt.

Maybe Jess has her moments, but Nick doesn't. He's just a guy that's defined by his relationships. Same with Winston. And that's a huge issue.

Sounds like a lot of real life people I know.
 

ivysaur12

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bingo. I don't want a whole show full of schmidt's, as much as I love the guy. It would just be so boring and over done. You need Nicks constant self hatred and pesimisstic views, Jess's over the top girly thing, Cece's hotness and Winston looks good when he's in the background sitting on the couch, or in the background at the bar talking to unnamed extras, or talking to a frightened child....



Sounds like a lot of real life people I know.

I'm not asking for a show full of Schmidts. I'm asking for a show that can use its clearly talented ensemble to the best of their abilities. The show works best when it gets weird. It's not trying to be a Traffic Light-type show, nor should it. Trying to be "more realistic" clearly doesn't work for the type of comedy the show wants to produce.

Holding Nick back by defining him by his relationships makes his character suffer. He works best when he's outside that construct. Doing nothing with Winston and Cece doesn't help. Even though Jess has evolved beyond "Look I'm weird!", she has a long way to go towards delivering the small moments that make shows like this top tier.

New Girl has its moments, but it's been held back by not necessarily feeling comfortable or committed to what it wants to be. In my mind, that's what keeps it from being a Parks, Modern Family, Happy Endings, Community, or 30 Rock. All very different comedies, but all very sure of their type of humor and characters. That's why they've all been very successful.
 

Danielsan

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See that's just wrong because Happy Endings is the comedy that New Girl wishes it was, and probably could be, if they gave a shit about anyone beyond Schmidt.
I recently caught up on Happy Endings and I still think its mediocre a best. I love New Girl and I think it's the best comedy series currently on television. You think otherwise and clearly love Happy Endings. Comedy is just very subjective which is why I hope they stick to what they are currently doing, because it's excellent and there are now two shows that cater to different audiences.
 

ivysaur12

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I recently caught up on Happy Endings and I still think its mediocre a best. I love New Girl and I think it's the best comedy series currently on television. You think otherwise and clearly love Happy Endings. Comedy is just very subjective which is why I hope they stick to what they are currently doing, because it's excellent and there are now two shows that cater to different audiences.

I just don't think New Girl is remotely comfortable with Cece, Winston, or even Nick. You might like Nick, fine, but 2/5 of their main cast is stuck in a rut. That's an issue. And I would put Nick in there as well. Maybe it's an issue they'll address, but until I do, I think I'll feel the same way I do about Suburgatory or Up All Night - I'll watch it when it's on, but I'll in no way seek it out as must watch television.
 
I recently caught up on Happy Endings and I still think its mediocre a best. I love New Girl and I think it's the best comedy series currently on television. You think otherwise and clearly love Happy Endings. Comedy is just very subjective which is why I hope they stick to what they are currently doing, because it's excellent and there are now two shows that cater to different audiences.

This. New Girl rocks.
 

Jasoco

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http://new.livestream.com/paleycenter/NewGirl

It just started. They did one for Community on Saturday. And Parks and Recreation is tomorrow.

Edit: It saddens me no one else knows this is here because it probably won't be streamed again later and unless some kind soul is out there ripping it to YouTune, it will be gone forever. But goddamn this is hilarious stuff. Be warned, if you wander in here and click, you can rewind to 0:00, but when it ends, the page has the tendency to reload and destroy the stream never to be seen again.

Edit: Yeah. You're missing some good shit. Schmidt was just told to put money in the Douche Jar by the entire audience. Winston talked about living with three women and dealing with three different "times". Jess is nerdy adorable. The creator is a different kind of nerdy adorable. CeCe is reacting exactly like her character would to the other "guys" stupid things they keep saying.

So good. And if it weren't for me still having the tab open when it automatically reloaded to load the stream, I would have missed it. (I was napping and the voice saying "WASN'T THAT EPISODE GREAT?!" woke me up. Note: They didn't show the episode to the stream. Just the audience.)

You're missing out.
 

Jasoco

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Rewound the stream as far as I could go. (about 20min in before it locked.) Good so far.
It starts when the host is introducing everyone. So you probably didn't miss much if anything. This is great. I hope someone caches it on YouTune like they did for Community the other day.
 

Jasoco

Banned
Audience Question time! I hope someone asks to hug Abed!

Wait.. I mean I hope someone asks to hug Zoo-- er Schmidt. (A girl asking to hug a guy would be cute while a guy asking to hug Zooey would be creepy? But I won't say I wouldn't be tempted to ask. <3 )
 

Jasoco

Banned
NOOOO! The stream just died. Did they cut it out?

EDIT: This was just posted on the page:
Yeah. LiveStream is evil. They reload the page automatically as soon as it starts and immediately after it ends whether you're watching live or are a few minutes behind. If that's a "feature" of the "new LiveStream", I do not want it. It's stupid you can't even finish the recording if you need to.

Check Reddit for a /r/NewGirl (Does one exist) and see if someone uploads it like they did Community.
 
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