Jessie.Bristol
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Like others said, that isn't AI. That is an actual human player, even says it in the video description.
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Like others said, that isn't AI. That is an actual human player, even says it in the video description.
Some screens from Apex 7 Warzone
More at http://teambeyond.net/new-halo-5-guardians-raid-on-apex-7-screenshots/
Nice. Any gameplay?
RedSparrows
Member
Pretty much. I'm tempted to skip previews not so much for fear of spoiling stuff, but for the endless back and forth speculation about good and bad things which we cannot fully know until we play.
That said, 343, jack up the difficulty.
Edit: It's also easy to look back at older Halos and forget the rubbish AI moments that frequently happened. Grenading at a grunt so he dives off a cliff, that kinda thing. Hopefully we'll be pleasantly satisfied by 5's AI...
Not that I know of, I think the multiplayer reveal from this hands on session is Friday.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Are you saying if they went 30fps it probably wouldn't be locked because of the focus on visuals?
Agreed, if difficulty is still tinkered with at the end of the development cycle like Frankie said, then it needs to go up. Heroic looks like Halo 4 normal, and Halo 4 wasn't even that hard, tbh.
VincentMatts
Member
I still play CE to this day because of that.
In the campaign, probably not. That's my hunch, anyway.
This is why previewing is a double edged sword. You have to lock down a build for preview, but it still may have some bugs. Fixing them may introduce new ones that break the game in bigger ways, so you go with the last "stable" build, and let some press people play it. It ticks all the right checkboxes but has some gitches, and the enthusiast fans see it and get worried. MS is on an aggressive PR swing with Xbox and Halo, so they need to show things earlier and generate hype. That must be driving 343 crazy when they know there are builds being shown that have bugs.
I'll be worried when the game is out and people start to report these problems. Halo 4 had great AI, and I don't see this game suddenly being worse. That would be a huge failure... at release.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Halo 4 had terrible AI. I don't know what game you played.
See, the problem is that
A. I'm not entirely convinced all of the AI glitches can be fixed due to the nature of level design, which I talked about earlier in this thread. Weird terrain/walls can put off even the best AI.
B. Halo 4 Elites had some... issues. It was a noticeable downgrade compared to Reach, anyway.
Things will get better but I can't help but notice every difference in game previews.
VincentMatts
Member
Then at that point, mention to the previewer that the AI isn't finished so he can also pass the info along to the viewers? And Halo4s AI was not great. Not even close. Prometheans were no fun to fight at all.
...Scatter...
Banned
Guess you're a Halo fan now LOL
tiredheadcrab
Member
I didnt see much of a difference between Arthurs Footage and Greenskulls. Greenskull seemed like he played we too. One of the better players ive seen in the video footage. I am thinking it was just 1 difficulty throughout the play session.
Most impressive though was in the Kinda Funny video was when the hunter bounced the grenade back at the player. Loved that. Where is Stinkles when you need him?
Most impressive though was in the Kinda Funny video was when the hunter bounced the grenade back at the player. Loved that. Where is Stinkles when you need him?
DarthWalden
Banned
God dam I wish I didn't see some stuff in there like
Looks awesome
that massive scarab thing, destructible cover, and the hunter batting sway the grenade
Looks awesome
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Terrible? I was playing on Heroic on my own and it definitely was a nice challenge. Far...faaaaar from terrible. Probably not as good as the older games, but terrible is just ridiculous man, come on.
Halo 4 Heroic was a breeze when tackled solo. Legendary was damn near impossible in the last few levels (fuck you, Knights!) I'd love to see H5 Heroic more difficult, Legendary less.
tiredheadcrab
Member
I asked Arthur on twitter. Blue Team was on Heroic and he cut out a lot of deaths. Team Osiris was Normal i guess because he was on a timetable. Check his twitter.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Shitting on Halo 4 is what all the cool kids do these days.
Huh. I feel the opposite way. The inside is like a small level on its own, and there are multiple ways to attack the outside parts. And it hassles you throughout the level before you fight it properly.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I had elites not even engage and Prometheans get stuck in corners just from me trying to flank them all on Legendary. I never had anything like that happen in any other Halo game that I can remember. If you were playing co-op it was even more of a joke.
He say anything about the Ai?
Sorry to rain on Halo 3's parade here, while the Scarab encounters were very cool, and while they even had their own AI, they did basically just sit in one place and shoot at you. You destroyed them by boarding them and blowing up their back. Not particularly complicated.
The reason the encounters were fun was because they generally came with a lot of heavy ordnance and/or vehicles, a true sandbox.
I think the Kraken is more akin to the Halo 2 Metropolis Scarab; a cool concept that dominates the level, unlike the Halo 3 Scarab which was more of a boss unit.
The reason the encounters were fun was because they generally came with a lot of heavy ordnance and/or vehicles, a true sandbox.
I think the Kraken is more akin to the Halo 2 Metropolis Scarab; a cool concept that dominates the level, unlike the Halo 3 Scarab which was more of a boss unit.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
That sounds fantastic. I think my impression of it is incomplete considering I just watched a single, edited video. The Kraken has me more excited than anything else shown - gives me serious Halo sandbox vibes.
tiredheadcrab
Member
Just that he cut out a lot of deaths from the Blue Team level. There were a lot of quick kills and cuts from that video so its hard to tell. I bet it was difficult for him.
Primethius
Banned
Yikes, that looks awful.
I like the tropical kind of setting but I hope it looks better than those screenshots.
What? What looks awful about it? Looks pretty nice to me!
tiredheadcrab
Member
Yeah same here. I like it. Are we all looking at the same screenshots?
I think he meant this screenshot in particular.
I have to agree that it looks a bit rough.
gotta get that 60fps
Primethius
Banned
First and third screenshot in particular look really rough. Poor textures, bad looking grass, just super flat lighting overall.
Sheesh, Halo has got to be the most scrutinized franchise in the history of gaming...
My favorite sentiments from this marketing campaign are:
1) Team Osiris' intro didn't show tactical Spartan-like behavior, meanwhile Blue Team's intro was to methodical
2) 343i is shitting all over Bungie conventions that should be held as gospel... Though many of these design choices were intiated by Bungie in-game or consistent with Bungie sanctioned lore
3) 343i has made too many changes to the formula, meanwhile the formula looks too familiar...
Anyway, I think the footage looks great. I can't wait for a legendary playthrough...
My favorite sentiments from this marketing campaign are:
1) Team Osiris' intro didn't show tactical Spartan-like behavior, meanwhile Blue Team's intro was to methodical
2) 343i is shitting all over Bungie conventions that should be held as gospel... Though many of these design choices were intiated by Bungie in-game or consistent with Bungie sanctioned lore
3) 343i has made too many changes to the formula, meanwhile the formula looks too familiar...
Anyway, I think the footage looks great. I can't wait for a legendary playthrough...
Halo on the internet, bro. It started in early 2002 with "Overrated" forum posts and hasn't stopped. Nothing you can do, just go with the flow.
I think aesthetically the screenshots look good, I'm loving 343's outdoor Warzone maps. As for the textures, look at how small the players are in the 2nd screen. The screenshot is being taken a loooong way back. Even The Witcher 3 maxed out on my 980ti does the same at that distance.
Samurai G0SU
Member
For me, i won't mind the poor textures as long as it stays a stable 60fps on that enourmous map!
WE are ready for a good treat! *queue the banana throwing monkeys
Looks like lighting/shadows artifacts. Would be a great character trait, though.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Chief is Tom Hanks from Saving Private Ryan sent into the future confirmed.
It looks really thrown together, almost like it was a custom made map.
That seems to be the only ugly Halo 5 map that I've seen, though, so here's hoping the others don't look like that.
Oh yeah, I'm aware that it's nothing new... Just getting a kick out of it and failing to think of another franchise that also deals with this.
RedSparrows
Member
Are 'awful' and 'terrible' and so on and so on really the right words to use? Really?
I don't care about negative opinions, I do care about them being expressed in such hyperbolic ways.
I don't care about negative opinions, I do care about them being expressed in such hyperbolic ways.
arhra
Member
Looking at a shot that more closely approximates an actual gameplay viewpoint of that same area, I'm pretty sure those janky textures on the terrain at the top of the cliffs won't be visible when you're playing the map.
Primethius
Banned
I didn't use any hyperbole. Two out of those three screenshots look awful to me. They look rough in almost every way outside of the Promethean model. Textures, image quality, some weird sharpening going on.
And on top of that, those screenshots don't have the art-style of the campaign footage we've seen so far that is able to mask some of those issues. They look unfinished. Rough. Awful for a game about a month out.