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That was back when Killua didn't even know wtf nen was lol..
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ThatCrazyGuy
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I just thought Killua was super arrogant and wanted to size everybody up back then. Plus he didn't know about Nen.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
They dont know about the old man in a shonen trope
Exactly. Remember after Killua knocks out Gon and escapes from Pitou, the first thing he says to Netero, Knov, and Morel is something like "now that I learned about Nen I can see you guys are unbelievably strong".
Now I want to learn more about zeno's grandfather.
Netero being the only one so far to survive a fight against him with that crazy 10,000 punches a day for training??
That old guy must have one hell of a nen ability.
Jigolo
Member
i rewatched the episode and i'm still confused on the part where the announcer says at first the sequence takes about 5-6 seconds and then goes on to say that the 10,000 punches took 18 hrs.
when he's talking about the 5-6 second sequence, is he talking about the prayer he says before actually throwing the punches? The scene is at aroud 12 min
when he's talking about the 5-6 second sequence, is he talking about the prayer he says before actually throwing the punches? The scene is at aroud 12 min
I think it was that each punch with pray takes about 5-6 seconds
Jigolo
Member
Yup that's it.
Worship --> pray --> punch
(5 -6 sec)
10,000 took 18 hrs the first time.
Urban Scholar
Member
The latest ep had me in shivers
When I thought a narrator in an anime can't make things so epic. I was like ...-_- then 0_0 then >_< ohhh so good
When I thought a narrator in an anime can't make things so epic. I was like ...-_- then 0_0 then >_< ohhh so good
flintstryker
Banned
Not only that after being mind fucked by Pitou, when Netero showed up Killua said something to the effect of "after now training in nen I can tell you guys are ridiculously strong' which gives further credence to the theory that he had no idea what he was up against before.
The translation is a bit off, there... He doesn't quite say that nobody else survived a fight against the guy, but merely that Netero is the only living person left who had been in a fight with the guy. The point still being that Netero is old.
curlyfriski
Banned
You're misunderstanding my post. I think it points to an inconsistency in how Togashi has characterized Killua, in that he is supposedly a very cautious person who thinks things through many times, but seems to actually believe he could kill Netero. I don't think it's an awful mistake, I just think Togashi changed his mind about what he wanted Killua's character to be at some point. I mean it's not the only inconsistency in Hunter. Like, how did Killua not know about nen up til Heaven's Arena, considering how he was raised? Nen wasn't really hinted at at all up to a certain point, until all of a sudden tons of people had it.
Edit: did you totally skip my other post, because I basically already said all this.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Oh my fucking god.
Fucking AMAZING episode. Holy shit I'm beyond hyped. The narrator, the explanations and backstory, the beautiful dragons and scenery, and that ending. Omg. Fuck. So gooooood. All the tension was translated perfectly from the manga and we only saw what happened in like 20 seconds. Cannot fucking wait to see the rest of the invasion animated.
Fucking AMAZING episode. Holy shit I'm beyond hyped. The narrator, the explanations and backstory, the beautiful dragons and scenery, and that ending. Omg. Fuck. So gooooood. All the tension was translated perfectly from the manga and we only saw what happened in like 20 seconds. Cannot fucking wait to see the rest of the invasion animated.
Pretty damn sure.
"Seizon shiteoru" instead of something like "ikinokotta" (if that was about surviving the fight, you'd think the impressive feat would be described as a past event rather than an ongoing state) and the final "shi" implies he's still making the same point (=Netero is old).
I'm sure he knew about nen. But since he started praying when he was old and his ability looks like it based on it.
Was that DTL who thinks shounen heroes must win all the time?
Yeah I was thinking about that a while back. It's clear the whole nen thing wasn't part of the original plan for HxH. But it's only missing from the first arc so it's not a major problem. It's mostly Killua that makes it problematic, because his entire family is made up of incredibly powerful nen users.
Think about it even deeper: Killua seems to not know what nen is until Heaven's Arena, yet his YOUNGER BROTHER Kalluto (2 years younger), is also a proficient Nen user. How is it possible? It COULD be explained but it would still be a stretch. We know Kalluto is looking for his brother and may have trained in nen to prepare for the task. It's also possible that all of the family is trained in nen except for Killua and the reason why is not yet known. Maybe to test him in some way, or possibly to protect him since we know his family is so obsessed with that. Whatever the answer, I'm sure that it's something that Togashi is having to write around because it was not part of the original concept for HxH.
On another note, this last episode sure brought a lot of people out of the woodwork. Lot of new posters in this thread.
I always assumed that Killua changed when Illumi put that needle infused with his nen in his brain to manipulate his behavior and make him more cautious so that he doesn't get himself killed. I think it was heavily implied that Illumi planted that needle during the final phase of the hunter exam and that's why Killua murdered that old guy and got himself disqualified, because Illumi was manipulating him.
That would make sense.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
So much slow motion in this episode. I mean, yeah, Dragon Ball Z's fighters were in slow mo 24/7, but they had to. These guys are hardly sound breaking speed.
I beg to differ. Pitou's Terpsichora only takes 0.1 second to attack from manifestation, yet Netero reacted within that time. I'd say that's fast enough to warrant the slow mo.
Cool moment, just like when he saw Kite's arm fly off or when he freaked out vs. Morel, but it's not as cool as Killua flipping his switch for me since it's just been for show so far.
What's the confusing part of the japanese version that leads an anime sub group to make the same mistake as manga translators years ago?
I went and checked, and it's the same as I remember it being:
That's different than the one I remember:
I can kinda guess where that one's from from the quality of the image, haha, and if that's them, that's just taking credibility away from the translation. My only point was that there's proof Erigu's translation isn't unfounded, that's all.
It's also the only translation that makes sense, whatever that's worth. Not sure how that went past the anime dudes but it happens.
It's also the only translation that makes sense, whatever that's worth. Not sure how that went past the anime dudes but it happens.
Yeah, and Zeno's 67. I don't recommend any anime-only viewers look that up, the spoilers will be fierce.
I don't see how confirming that will be a spoiler though since they revealed it in this episode.
I understand there can multiple known translations for manga chapters and this can make it have different meanings which changes the context similar to that "My power. Uchiha Madara's power." translation debate from Naruto.
In this case it goes from hype for Zeno's grandfather (Netero being the only one to survive the fight - which I used to believe) to another statement on Netero's old age (he's the only man currently alive who fought him - which is less exciting for me :/).
shira
Member
I'm not trolling. I just found it really idiotic that he would waste his time on an arbitrary number.
Do you believe actual martial artists practice one move a single time to establish discipline and strength?
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
I took Zeno's comments as a pointed statement of how badass he was, not how old he was.
umop_3pisdn
Member
Aside from what others have already said, it's a personal practice in devotion if you somehow missed that part. That's the entire reason it's an interesting technique in the first place, because its application in combat is tertiary or essentially a coincidence. For Netero it was obviously about a lot more than developing a really strong hatsu, which is also what makes the question of if he had a hatsu before irrelevant. It's about as 'pointless' as prostrations in Buddhism or chanting the suttas.
Because you could go to the wiki to find out, and accidentally read a spoiler thats on there or something trying to look for it.
Obviously posting the age isn't bad, but not recommended for anime only viewers to read the wiki to find things out.
But yes, don't check the wiki. For anything, for that matter.
shira
Member
I feel it doesn't suit the fantastic nature of the show. You can take it what you will, but to me it seems silly when they try and and blend it with realism like the North Korea stuff and the fat kid who was trying to run the marathon in the Hunter exam while looking up stats on the web with his laptop. Ah well it's a kids show. I like almost all of it, I just didn't like those parts.
DualShadow
Member
Fantastic episode, glad I skipped the preview judging by the reactions earlier in the thread.
Yeah, it's not the first time I notice a mistranslation in the new TV series. I mean, it's a good translation overall, but from time to time...
If he got the result, how it count as wasting time?
Even Killua and Gon doing same thing in Greed Island arc.