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I'll just post the high res source file later this week and reap the rewards of "erhmehgerd he stold meh artz" karma.
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New Pope elected. Young (76), and from South America. Takes Pope Name "Francis"
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I'll just post the high res source file later this week and reap the rewards of "erhmehgerd he stold meh artz" karma.
The issue is the hypocrisy on the behalf of the Mods. The kind of behavior tolerated in threads such as this would get you permabanned in say the politics thread or others. If it wasn't religion this thread would be a graveyard
Count Dookkake
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Wait, are these the job requirements?
Doctor West
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I love that new pope smell. Does this one come with kung fu grip?
MorisUkunRasik
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He is anti-gay, read his thoughts on gay marriage and adoption. Imo that makes him a real shitty person regardless of his religion or position.
Nope, but he does have hipster glasses to appeal to the younger generation.
according to haters, yes
el retorno
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TMZ keeping it classy, I think they crossed a line
Shit guys... this pope might bring on the apocalypse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
THE PRECIPICE
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Psychoward
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Supporting military dictatorships is worse because it goes against the religion that he is now the physical leader of.
That sort of logic may not hold. For example, Churchill was massively homophobic and rascist (considered Indians worse than dogs). Yet he is still considered a hero. As an Indian, I can still see why.
It's the covering up of the horrible crimes that were committed that need to be rectified.
ClassyPenguin
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The Church is different than believers. The Church as an institution deserves criticism as much as any other institution and they've earned their fair share (cover ups,allegations of corruption, systemic child abuse, bigotry etc). Attacking believers is cheap. It would be like attacking Americans instead of criticizing the Obama Administration for drone strikes, not pursuing criminal charges for bank leaders but rather appointing them.
Difference: Churchill is dead and we can no longer tell him his views are wrong. This new Pope is alive (looks it anyway) and is still subject to education, ridicule, shame, and spiritual growth.
MorisUkunRasik
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I'm not very familar with Churchill. Sounds like a piece of shit tho
Patrick Bateman
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Waitaminute, he's against homo-marriage and his role under the military junta in Argentina is not quite clear. I don't know how to feel about this.
To be "fair" the argentine catholic church was in its large majority (although there are many valiant very praiseworthy exceptions) supportive of the 76' dictatorship.
Yeah, I don't know what people were expecting... Pope John Paul II & Benedict weren't going to appoint people as Cardinals who were publicly in favor of abortion, gay marriage, birth control, etc.
This sort of thing is only going to happen in babysteps.
Do you believe in conspiracy theories?
Every Cardinal is against gay marriage. I don't expect the Church to change their views on gay marriage. What I do expect is to welcome all people, no matter your gender, sexual orientation etc into the fold. I'm not sure Francis I is that guy.
Pollux
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Nobody has said that people should mistreat gay people, they say that they should be treated with love and dignity. Not bullied. No negative treatment.
Only the advocation of inequal treatment.
Pollux
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Well yeah. I don't agree with their stance on civil marriage i'm just trying to point out that they're not advocating going out and bullying gay kids or something.
pauljeremiah
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Some Random trivia facts about Pope Francis
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/13/new-pope-thirteen-key-facts
• He likes to travel by bus.
• He has lived for more than 50 years with one functioning lung. He had the other removed as a young man because of infection.
• He is the son of an Italian railway worker.
• He trained as a chemist.
• He is the first non-European pope in the modern era.
• He claims that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children but believes that condoms "can be permissible" to prevent infection.
• In 2001 he washed and kissed the feet of Aids patients in a hospice.
• He speaks fluent Italian, as well as Spanish and German.
• Until now he has been living in a small flat, eschewing a formal bishop's residence.
• He told Argentinians not to travel to Rome to celebrate if he was appointed but to give their money to the poor instead.
• He is believed to have been the runner-up in the last papal conclave in 2005.
• He has co-written a book, in Spanish, called Sobre el Cielo y la Tierra (On Heaven and Earth). You can buy it on Kindle.
• Though conservative on church doctrine, he has criticised priests who refuse to baptise babies born to single mothers.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/13/new-pope-thirteen-key-facts
• He likes to travel by bus.
• He has lived for more than 50 years with one functioning lung. He had the other removed as a young man because of infection.
• He is the son of an Italian railway worker.
• He trained as a chemist.
• He is the first non-European pope in the modern era.
• He claims that adoption by homosexuals is a form of discrimination against children but believes that condoms "can be permissible" to prevent infection.
• In 2001 he washed and kissed the feet of Aids patients in a hospice.
• He speaks fluent Italian, as well as Spanish and German.
• Until now he has been living in a small flat, eschewing a formal bishop's residence.
• He told Argentinians not to travel to Rome to celebrate if he was appointed but to give their money to the poor instead.
• He is believed to have been the runner-up in the last papal conclave in 2005.
• He has co-written a book, in Spanish, called Sobre el Cielo y la Tierra (On Heaven and Earth). You can buy it on Kindle.
• Though conservative on church doctrine, he has criticised priests who refuse to baptise babies born to single mothers.
NullPointer
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Is it just a thing now that Popes have to look like creepy movie villains? Or has Hollywood just been making a point of making their villains look like Popes?
Patrick Bateman
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No.
fredrancour
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lol
We all love Diego over here but none of his opinions on anything are correct lol.
Cool...an old strictly conservative pope...
I think the south american thing was a business move on the churches part since the majority of catholics reside there (or am i wrong on that?)
If they wanted to 'save' their US presence Dolan would have been picked, but they probably feel the damage done is too deep.
For the record, Im a former-catholic supporter (still a believer) whose high school principal (a franciscan friar no less) caused one of my classmates to die from a drug addication that he picked up from all the beer and coke he and others were getting from this priest/principal (in return for more than their prayers)...multiple clergy members from my grade school and high school are in jail or awaiting trial...I hope they all do very poorly in prison.
so until they consider sweeping change, my bias will be unchanged.
I think the south american thing was a business move on the churches part since the majority of catholics reside there (or am i wrong on that?)
If they wanted to 'save' their US presence Dolan would have been picked, but they probably feel the damage done is too deep.
For the record, Im a former-catholic supporter (still a believer) whose high school principal (a franciscan friar no less) caused one of my classmates to die from a drug addication that he picked up from all the beer and coke he and others were getting from this priest/principal (in return for more than their prayers)...multiple clergy members from my grade school and high school are in jail or awaiting trial...I hope they all do very poorly in prison.
so until they consider sweeping change, my bias will be unchanged.
CountAntonius
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Is it just a thing now that Popes have to look like creepy movie villains? Or has Hollywood just been making a point of making their villains look like Popes?
Oh no...
Patrick Bateman
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Well, Jesus does:
Goal physique right there.
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