ViewtifulJC
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yep, just read in Constantine's voice
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New Super Mario Bros. U |OT| My Bah-dy is Ready
- Thread starter MagicWithEarvin
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yep, just read in Constantine's voice
dehydratedbabies
Member
Can someone post a link to that video where the guy sings along with the 'bah's? I can't find it anywhere.
Holy Order Sol
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Or it's just about using the phrase "level design" for the sake of it in an attempt to make an opinion sound objective. I don't think most people have a clear idea of what actually does or does not constitute good level design. Most of us just either enjoy the games or don't.
Yeah, there was no reason no to bring the yellow/red dot thing back.
gamergirly
Member
I know, right?
I 100%'ed NSMBWii and felt so proud never seeing that green block...
This time around, however, I've seen it a couple of times, and every time because like Nintendo's programmers are laughing in my face.
ThatObviousUser
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That's nothing, do the Challenge Mode version.
I'm happy I'm not the only one.
There were a couple of levels where I would die repeatedly going for a Star Coin or just because I was being an idiot and hearing the "ding dong" of the Super Guide is literally Nintendo saying "You suck".
I haven't used it but still, it makes me feel like I'm not as good at platformers as I hoped I was.
ThatObviousUser
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As far as anyone can tell, the Super Guide showing up has no effect on anything. Nor does using it, seems like.
But please, continue and be the definitive answer on this.
(You're definitely going to die more than eight times on some of the special levels, keep in mind.)
ShockingAlberto
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It determines if your stars shine on the file screen, I believe.
Yea i've been checking out some videos on youtube and they look great.
Some look rage inducing but i'm ok with that lol.
ThatObviousUser
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Was that confirmed for this game somewhere, or just NSMBW?
Nope! I used them plenty of times to get Star Coins.
Luigi mode. Luigi automatically plays the level for you, but you can stop at a certain point to play the level at that area you stopped him at.
Holy shit! He just rocks up and plays for you?! That is crazy cheap. Can I play as him otherwise?
Sadly, you can't play as him unless you activate the Luigi mode from dying, or playing with two players.
Well, you can also play as him in the challenge modes I believe too.
Fox Mulder
Member
Wait, what does that do?
I've got the block that pops up about luigi helping a couple of times but I never used it. I usually only got it while trying to get star coins in the initial run of a level.
Meatvillain
Banned
So no shining stars if the Super Guide appears? Because I've had it appear a lot, especially while hunting star coins. 
So no shining stars if the Super Guide appears? Because I've had it appear a lot, especially while hunting star coins.
Just don't use it.
ThatObviousUser
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Nope.
Keep in mind there are normal exits for Soda Jungles 2, 4, and 5. Here's the secret exits for all the levels:
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Beat the game, and am in the process of collecting all the star coins, hidden exits, etc.
PROs:
1. Fantastic level design
2. Healthy amount of difficulty towards the end of the game
3. Music is BETTER than past NSMB games
4. The acorn suit. It controls wonderfully, and I hope it makes appearances in future games.
5. Challenge mode. They weren't kidding when they said challenge
6. Dem backgrounds
7. Bosses, while still being very "meh" were better than past NSMB games.
8. Love the overworld a lot
CONs
1. That music is just awful, even if it is better than past games.
2. Presentation still leaves MUCH to be desired.
3. Still takes way too long for the difficulty to happen. It didn't start getting difficult at all until the Mountain world.
4. Baby Yoshis. The pink one especially. They seem to get in the way more than anything.
5. Lack of online co-op (Though, if it's technically unfeasible, like Nintendo and others say, then that's completely understandable).
All in all, this is easily the best 2D Mario game made since probably World. I'm very impressed.
PROs:
1. Fantastic level design
2. Healthy amount of difficulty towards the end of the game
3. Music is BETTER than past NSMB games
4. The acorn suit. It controls wonderfully, and I hope it makes appearances in future games.
5. Challenge mode. They weren't kidding when they said challenge
6. Dem backgrounds
7. Bosses, while still being very "meh" were better than past NSMB games.
8. Love the overworld a lot
CONs
1. That music is just awful, even if it is better than past games.
2. Presentation still leaves MUCH to be desired.
3. Still takes way too long for the difficulty to happen. It didn't start getting difficult at all until the Mountain world.
4. Baby Yoshis. The pink one especially. They seem to get in the way more than anything.
5. Lack of online co-op (Though, if it's technically unfeasible, like Nintendo and others say, then that's completely understandable).
All in all, this is easily the best 2D Mario game made since probably World. I'm very impressed.
Appreciate the list, but it wasn't any of those! A bit of Googling revealed another secret exit in
Walking Piranha Plants
So, 13 secret flags.
Spieler Eins
Member
get in the way - wtf? They are pretty much like a godmode, lol. super imbalanced, blue one especially.
goldenpp72
Member
Yeah that pink yoshi is almost impossible to die with, lol.
Good write-up. I feel these will be my only problems with the game. Not sure about #4 though
Fox Mulder
Member
I like the nods to World and SMB3, and the music isn't grating to me since I've only played the DS NSMB on a plane trip back in 2007. I've had fun with the level design, and imagine it's hard to build worlds that are compelling for single player while also accommodating to coop play.
Challenge mode is incredible, and I'd certainly buy more through dlc if they ever do that on the WiiU.
gamergirly
Member
If you playing multiplayer, the difficulty starts on Level 1-1 lol. Also, I loved the baby Yoshis. They were so cute and singing along to the music was a nice touch and the biggest change to the presentation for me.
The only complaint I really have is your #5. I really missed online coop in this one. I hope the next one implements it
ThatObviousUser
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Haha, I can't believe I missed one for the list! And I've gotten them all too, haha.
zeioIIDX
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Bleh, I was bothered that if you die you can't just redo it right away. You have a really annoying 5-6 seconds in between attempts that is really annoying.
I want every platformer to steal Meat Boy's respawn.
Davey Cakes
Member
Personally, I don't see that as a con. Having a universal difficulty and all, the game is pretty well balanced and has a nice, smooth difficulty curve that's a bit steeper than in previous games.
Besides, difficulty doesn't equal fun anyway. The first few worlds aren't overly hard but collecting all the star coins is a blast. And I'm saying this as a seasoned player. There are plenty of people saying that the game gets really hard by the third world. I can honestly see some players (mostly of the casual variety, but others as well) having a lot of trouble and nearly quitting from frustration as early as Soda Jungle. You'd be surprised at how incompetent the average player, especially in the NSMB audience, is.
I beat Super Meat Boy on the X360 100%, including the DLC that was available at the time. I've been playing games for over twenty years. I'm an experienced player and know what a hard platformer can be. Mario doesn't really need to be like that. Hardcore players may appreciate the addition of difficulty levels, but Mario has always been more about having a universal difficulty that's fun for everyone, and Nintendo has gotten better at appealing to all audiences. They not only improved the general challenge of the main game, but also included the "challenges" mode for the skilled.
I thought the difficulty scaled up perfectly. I started dying in the second world, and I can think of some hard levels starting in the Ice place and that's only the third world. The Boo Castle + Boss gave me hell there. I suppose it depends on your playing style because I'm not really cautious when I play.
gamergirly
Member
There definitely were some difficult levels in the game. I've found it to be more challenging, overall, then the first NSMBWii where you could just use the Propeller Suit and blast away on most levels
I'm currently exacting my terrible revenge in the challenge mode!
Too true. Multi is like training in 10 times gravity. You're forced to platform in so many different (harder) ways than you might be used to. Truly my favorite type of platforming.
SpacePirate Ridley
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I went for all the star coins before leaving each level and the difficulty is good as its now.
Theres a part when I got like 99 lives (I think was the snow world), when I got to bowser's castle I had 10 and it didnt go down more because you can get at least 1 life when you are playing the majority of stages.
That means I lost more than 100 lives when I got to the final part of the game. I think thats a good balance of hard and easy.
Theres a part when I got like 99 lives (I think was the snow world), when I got to bowser's castle I had 10 and it didnt go down more because you can get at least 1 life when you are playing the majority of stages.
That means I lost more than 100 lives when I got to the final part of the game. I think thats a good balance of hard and easy.
Azure Dream
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SMW actually did this every other world.
Yoshi's Island (Separate) => Donut Plains (Main Map) => Vanilla Dome (Separate) => Twin Bridges (Main Map) => Forest of Illusion (Separate) => Chocolate Island (Main Map) => Valley of Bowser (Separate)
Then Star Road and the Special World were separate as well.
There were occasions where you would step out of the enclosed areas for a stage technically in that world, like the outlying fortresses in Forest of Illusion, or the Yellow Switch Palace in Yoshi's Island, but for the most part, they toggled back and forth.
finally someone who gets it! Props mate
this Boo Ballet is so damn hard. I just can't seem to jump over the fourth bunch of boos :/
ThatObviousUser
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Took me well over an hour to gold Cashless Castle Crawl. On the plus side I've now gotten gold medals for all the Special challenges. Yay!
Picking up where I left off in the Coin challenges, and Don't Touch Anything can go floss itself inside out with barbed wire. It'd be difficult if it was just the spinning platforms and the coins, but no, they have to throw in three goddamn Lakitus on top of it all. God.
Picking up where I left off in the Coin challenges, and Don't Touch Anything can go floss itself inside out with barbed wire. It'd be difficult if it was just the spinning platforms and the coins, but no, they have to throw in three goddamn Lakitus on top of it all. God.
flipswitch
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Do you prefer to play on the gamepad or TV?
Gamepad for me. I think it's made for it.
Actually all the games that feature off TV play I use the gamepad. Works in the toilet too.
Gamepad for me. I think it's made for it.
Actually all the games that feature off TV play I use the gamepad. Works in the toilet too.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Definitely. I'm stoked to start my second play through with my roommates at my side.
polyh3dron
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TV all day, better sound. I did use the gamepad once sitting on the can though.