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New York City Approves Large Sugary Drinks Ban
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A ban is always going to resonate poorly with people, even if you can, in this case, buy two sodas and achieve the same effect of the large ones. I think a smart move would have been to heavily tax any soda over a certain size and use all of the revenue to fund healthcare initiatives for the public.
but NOOOOOOOOOOOO
but NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Darias
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So, what happens if I drive for an hour and then wander around Manhattan with the 20oz that I brought with me from better NY?
Will the NYPD confiscate it? Will they shoot me and a half dozen other people in the process?
What if the offending beverage is in a backpack, and found in a 'for no reason stop, harass, and ransack' search?
Will the NYPD confiscate it? Will they shoot me and a half dozen other people in the process?
What if the offending beverage is in a backpack, and found in a 'for no reason stop, harass, and ransack' search?
Neuromancer
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I hope this goes all the way to the Supreme Court. Because that would be awesome.
They will taze you and throw you into the god damn Hudson River.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Yeah but that has nothing to do with the issue of the soda.
Bloomberg tried to do that for years. It's a non-starter.
Robot Pants
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Completely ridiculous.
I haven't had a soda in at least 6 months, but this is absurd. People should be allowed to drink whatever they want.
I haven't had a soda in at least 6 months, but this is absurd. People should be allowed to drink whatever they want.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Still don't get the title. They never banned soda did they? Just big sizes.
I don't see it as any huge issue. Not going to stop people from drinking a lot of it, but may make someone think twice.
I don't see it as any huge issue. Not going to stop people from drinking a lot of it, but may make someone think twice.
I for one am starting a mule operation by driving to Canada twice a week to load my car with contriband soda. If you are interested, the price per oz > 16oz is $2.
I just worry about those carbonation sniffing border dogs.
Continuity
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What exactly is stopping people from buying 2 bottles instead?
From earlier in the thread: default bias:
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2012/08/13/120813ta_talk_surowiecki
if the new norm is 16oz, people will just get that.
Also, carrying two bottles of anything is hard if you are walking down the street trying to drink the first one. Also, movie theatres have 1 cupholder, also the 16oz*2 =/= 20oz.
I'd say it's because it's pretty inconvenient to have to carry two smaller bottles instead of a single larger one.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Value meals with two cups of soda incoming lol
Stephen Colbert
Banned
Well past time.
Good job Mayor.
Big ass sugary drinks ARE a huge contributor to obesity. Unlike food, drinks just fly through your gut without leaving you feeling full, all while adding 400-600 calories or so to your meal.
Fast food companies keep making their drinks larger and larger. I ordered a medium pop yesterday and basically got a bucket of soda that I had the good sense to throw away most of, but my peers who got the same bucket of soda gulped down all of it without realizing that they just consumed 400+ calories in liquid sugar. Since when did medium start to mean godzilla size and large mean grand canyon size?
I also like how this ban doesn't apply to diet drinks. Hopefully, people start drinking diet sodas more often rather than continue to add on tons of calories without realizing what they're doing to their body.
Good job Mayor.
Big ass sugary drinks ARE a huge contributor to obesity. Unlike food, drinks just fly through your gut without leaving you feeling full, all while adding 400-600 calories or so to your meal.
Fast food companies keep making their drinks larger and larger. I ordered a medium pop yesterday and basically got a bucket of soda that I had the good sense to throw away most of, but my peers who got the same bucket of soda gulped down all of it without realizing that they just consumed 400+ calories in liquid sugar. Since when did medium start to mean godzilla size and large mean grand canyon size?
I also like how this ban doesn't apply to diet drinks. Hopefully, people start drinking diet sodas more often rather than continue to add on tons of calories without realizing what they're doing to their body.
If you're being serious, then you don't deserve the Colbert name or avatar.
If people want to smoke and eat themselves into an early grave I don't care.
If we have to give them care when they do so tax the fuck out of what they use to destroy themselves to lower the cost. Would be an infinitely better path than banning big sodas so suicidal people have to carry two or three.
In the wording of the ban, diet sodas are exempted but self-service fountains are not allowed to carry larger cups, so the ban for them is still in effect in many places.
Also, Big ass TELEVISIONS ARE a huge contributor to obesity. Unlike exercise which makes you feel happy, television will take away your whole day. Lets propose a ban on televisions watching past six hours. This ban would also affect video game playing.
I know, slippery slope again, but I would much rather have New York actively promoting exercise and food knowledge over a ban. How about encouraging companies in New York to develop exercise programs with incentives. Maybe more city sponsored events in parks?
LiquidMetal14
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Soooooooooooooo
Who's gonna be the first one to design a hat that holds 4 of them thar 16oz Cocaine Colar contraptions?!
Who's gonna be the first one to design a hat that holds 4 of them thar 16oz Cocaine Colar contraptions?!
flippymittens
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This, soda is terrible.
Nostalgic Nightmare
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I don't live in NYC but I somehow would guess Soda should be low on the list of problems worth solving.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
What a thread title.....
SODA BAN!!!! lol
SODA BAN!!!! lol
astroturfing
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nice, i heard about this but didn't think it could pass when so many are so enamoured with the nebulous idea of "personal freedom" that it should even trump serious health issues.. i'm pleasantly surprised and i think this will have good results. even a slightly less obese populace is objectively a good thing. and all the hyper-invididualist folk crying about slippery slope scenarios will probably quiet down soon and no one will give a shit, all that is left is a good new law that benefits society.
and i think, whether you like to admit it or not, the masses are fucking stupid and a lot of people just can't think for themselves, so laws like this are good way to nudge them in the right direction.
i wish they did this in Finland too, i always get way too much soda at the movie theater or any fast food restaurant.. and because i too am an idiot i tend to drink it all, don't want to "waste it" or whatever. much smaller portions would suffice, and i'd be a bit healthier now.
and i think, whether you like to admit it or not, the masses are fucking stupid and a lot of people just can't think for themselves, so laws like this are good way to nudge them in the right direction.
i wish they did this in Finland too, i always get way too much soda at the movie theater or any fast food restaurant.. and because i too am an idiot i tend to drink it all, don't want to "waste it" or whatever. much smaller portions would suffice, and i'd be a bit healthier now.
flippymittens
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Hopefully the Soda ban curbs to other unhealthy products as well.
Not a bad idea, we should regulate how many hours a day one can view the television or play video games in my view (not a harsh ban but anything over 4 hours is just ridiculous and should not be done). I believe everyone should have a requirement for at least weekly community service.
I guess you also think freedom of choice is terrible.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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This ban will hurt the poor the most.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Doing things like banning large sodas is why half the country votes Republican.
astroturfing
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sometimes it is. if a choise is poison.
flippymittens
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We do not have absolute freedom... Why should one have the freedom to destroy their bodies or preach vile offensive rhetoric (Neo-nazis, KKK, etc.)?
Why can I not yell fire in a crowded theater? People should be required to atleast have a healthy diet. I mean if we are going to have public health care (which many here desire), by eating unhealthy (not the persons fault but societies imo) than they are costing tax dollars that could be spent on other things.
Guardian Bob
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Love this! Nobody need to drink a 20oz pop.
Sugar is a toxin that people need less of.
Sugar is a toxin that people need less of.
Yep, so instead of getting that 20oz they will get the 16oz and fill it twice for a total of 32oz. Progress!!!!!!!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yelling fire in a crowded theater and getting fat aren't even remotely comparable unless you're drawing an insane conclusion.
More likely, they'll go vote for a Republican.
flippymittens
Banned
How, they suffer the most from soft drinks being cheap in my view. If only if there was a way to force people to read. I would imagine that more people would read if we could find a way to ban television for more than 4 hours a day (gradually go lower) and chips in the television could monitor usage (I am sure the tech is close).
Banning terrible products that damage the body like soda is a step in the right direction towards banning products that attack our minds, as well as other quality of life detriments.
perfectchaos007
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Hahaha, NYC thinks they are being progressive when really they are just shooting themselves in the foot like Plexico. I'm glad I don't live in that horrible city. It's just going to make people who want more soda buy 2 16oz sodas at $2.50 each instead of one 32 oz soda for $3.00. The real winners here are the soda manufacturers.
Rentahamster
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lol what a fucking stupid law. It'll have some effect on take out drinks and refills, but for the most part now people will just make more trash by buying more medium drinks.
They should have just put a tax on it, or tried to get the federal government to stop subsidizing corn. Or just not fucking do anything and worry about more important things.
They should have just put a tax on it, or tried to get the federal government to stop subsidizing corn. Or just not fucking do anything and worry about more important things.
Guardian Bob
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A few people might do that. But the majority will be satisfied and might even be happy the didn't buy that 20oz.
And people who are getting 16oz will still develop pre-diabeties. I agree people need to be more educated, but this is a step in the right direction to address the sugar problem in America.
flippymittens
Banned
They are comparable... Why would you want to do either? Also getting "fat" should not be illegal and I do not appreciate that strawman. I am against discrimination based on weight, height, appearance.
Banning soda should be as it greatly damages humanity.
LMAO. Bloomberg is in over his head.
Goldrusher
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Can a mod fix the title?
title: NYC bans soda
fact: NYC bans giant sodas at restaurants
title: NYC bans soda
fact: NYC bans giant sodas at restaurants
I'm just taking a playful jab. I really hope it does have an effect too, but I'm not sure if this was the right way to go about it.
So, let's ban cigarettes and alcohol! And let's make sure weed is NEVER legalized. Medicine can be a poison too, we should ban that too.
You're fucking kidding me, right? I have EVERY damn right to do whatever I want with my body. If I want to eat utter shit, then I have that right. If I want to use some form of drugs, I should have that right.
No one is required to be on a healthy diet. They *should* be on a healthy diet. You can easily fix the increase in cost for public health care by placing a tax on soda. You don't see the government banning cigarettes or alcohol. They tried the latter, and it practically created the black-market.
paparazzo
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Right, to hell with self control then. Might as well ban cigarettes then since it's, you know, something that causes a shit ton of different issues and will kill you faster. Besides, no one's stopping anyone from buying as much soda and junk food as they like at the grocery store. This ban won't do shit.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You sound like the guy from Demolition Man, except much scarier because you are an actual person arguing for the government controlling all aspects of life which are deemed bad for you and not, in fact, a movie character.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Part of the reason we even have a sugar problem in the first place is because
A: The government subsidizes corn production, which makes high fructose corn syrup cheaper than it should be.
B: The USDA told us that fat is the devil, so all the food manufacturers took out the fat in order to be more "healthy", but added a crapload of sugar (and slat) in the process so that their food doesn't taste like cardboard.
Both of these are awful. If you are going to buy the 'healthy' alternative at the store, get sugar free, not fat free.
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