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[ethomaz]

He got banned for this post, nothing to do with the DF stuff.

But it a tweet without any Bo comment.
What the issue with that tweet? It saying not all BC games were played for the preview.

I believe the ban was due the thread.

 

[sircaw]

Free Bo_Hazem free Bo_Hazem Burn Mod of War Free Bo_Hazem

sublimable messaging, no one will ever know my true intentions

 

[VargasPaPuM]

 

[IntentionalPun]

So what is the story about XBox BC? CNET said games weren't "playable" but they were but had some issues or something?

 

[Allandor]

So this 550 MB ssd is loading RDR2 faster than Xbox's 2,400 GBps ssd.

36 seconds vs 38 seconds.

something isnt right here. are we sure there is a 2.4 gbps ssd in there?

Well. This should be just a minor issue with measuring/whatever was on the system at this time. With times so close you can see, that the IO is no longer the problem. Those are just BC-Games so CPU has stuff to to like decrompess packages etc because the Hardware can only be used if the software was written for it. At a specific point, loading times for BC games cannot get any better without improving CPU & RAM speeds, we already know this from the PC. At this point, it can only get faster through patches from the developers of the games.
I really wish there were realtive cheap big SSDs on the maket, just to use them for BC games. But even 2TB (I have a 8TB HDD) is not cheap enough to replace my HDD.

 

[smallpotatosan]

So what is the story about XBox BC? CNET said games weren't "playable" but they were but had some issues or something?

no idea, man. I'm not sure what's going on. but like it will ever matter. the release is just a little more than a month away.

 

[demigod]

just tested on my pc using gen3 m2 ssd. RDR2 story load took me 50 seconds. good job xbox

what are your PC specs though.

 

[Insane Metal]

Well load times aside the Quick Resume feature seems to work damn well and that is also a sweet change from current gen, being able to just jump right back in to the game you were playing, and exactly where you left is

 

[Sinthor]

But how much faster? Obviously the PS5 will be faster, it has a faster SSD... But since you are saying that this is laughable and the PS5 will be much much faster, let's put a number on it. On average, how much faster will it load BC games compared to Xbox.

Well, I won't compare it directly to XSX. Different filesystems, etc. However, if running off the internal SSD, I imagine that the PS5 will load games in about an average of half the time. So a game that loads in 1 min, will load in 30 seconds give or take.

 

[Codexer]

 

[Zadom]

The Xbox quick resume will be like quick resume with ps4 but with 5 games? Or is it more?

 

[SSfox]

Expect PS4 games to have load times on PS5 also, they just weren't designed to take advantage of the SSD.

Definitely liking how much it's cut down,even then.

This. I hope mostly for t7 and SFV to have better loading.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

 

[SlimySnake]

this is why every game on the ps4 and x1x shouldve had dynamic resolution and uncapped framerates.

the ps5 and xsx can easily do 1080p 120 fps for these games without the need for patches.

 

[demigod]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

Stop spreading bs, people already gotten PS5.

 

[CrysisFreak]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

They have already announced that hands on previews are starting soon.
Same thing as here basically.

 

[sircaw]

this is why every game on the ps4 and x1x shouldve had dynamic resolution and uncapped framerates.

the ps5 and xsx can easily do 1080p 120 fps for these games without the need for patches.

why do you want 120 fps so badly, don't you need a special monitor to take advantage of that refresh rate?

I get not wanting 30 fps for games like shooters/fighters or from software games but 120 fps will make to many sacrifices surely?

 

[Deleted member 775630]

That's good to hear

 

[sircaw]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

Stop, its not even good trolling, put some effort in m8.

Take pride in your trolling, please.

 

[SlimySnake]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

if i had to guess, the OS isnt ready. MS hasnt really made a new OS from scratch like Sony is doing so that might be why they are ready.

 

[smallpotatosan]

what are your PC specs though.

not as powerful as xsx

ryzen5 2600, 2070super, 16G memory. and i have another game running at the same time, the best quick resume is just an alt-tab

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Stop spreading bs, people already gotten PS5.

Please send the links with the videos

 

[Sickteddy]

So when we hearing something about PS5 then? Sony is so silent this days, that's weird...

 

[jose4gg]

if i had to guess, the OS isnt ready. MS hasnt really made a new OS from scratch like Sony is doing so that might be why they are ready.

Well, they are supposed to release it in one week, maybe, and I know this might sound crazy, BUT MAYBE, they already had a plan to release it in one week in the youtube week... I don't know MAYBE...

 

[Deleted member 775630]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

Didn't Travis Scott get one? I guess other people have one too, NDA just hasn't lifted yet.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Xbox Series X hands-on: The big back-compat dive begins [Updated]

Xbox Quick Resume impresses. Plus: New controller, auto-HDR, venting holes, and more.

arstechnica.com

Quick Resume retains around 12 BC games simultaneously, which is insane IMO.

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Didn't Travis Scott get one? I guess other people have one too, NDA just hasn't lifted yet.

where are the videos and live load tests?

 

[demigod]

Please send the links with the videos

Thats not what you asked.

 

[Dibils2k]

Xbox Series X hands-on: The big back-compat dive begins [Updated]

Xbox Quick Resume impresses. Plus: New controller, auto-HDR, venting holes, and more.

arstechnica.com

Quick Resume retains around 12 BC games simultaneously, which is insane IMO.

i hope there is some front end area where we can see what games are in "quick resume" and have option to close em too

 

[jimbojim]

if i had to guess, the OS isnt ready. MS hasnt really made a new OS from scratch like Sony is doing so that might be why they are ready.

Maybe SSD space in PS5 is too small to install OS?

 

[Sinthor]

Didn't Travis Scott get one? I guess other people have one too, NDA just hasn't lifted yet.

Didn't the OS for the PS4 only get finalized a few weeks before launch? We've seen plenty of trailers but with no UI...I wonder if perhaps the OS and interface is still being worked on and stablized? Then again, could just be a marketing thing and MS getting out in front of it. Who knows!

 

[VargasPaPuM]

Thats not what you asked.

soo it is fake news. humor

 

[demigod]

soo it is fake news. humor

You’re fake news.

 

[jimbojim]

we see a lot of people using xbox series x and none from sony. The question is: Why sony didn't provide the PS5 to the media? what are they afraid of?

Because Sony is tired of spreading FUD about PS5. Maybe sircaw gave them a FUD list.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

Any tests of load times of XSX versus X1X with a 1TB SSD installed? I'm curious to know if there's any difference. I assume load times would be pretty much the same. Load times are comparable to what I get on my PC, including system boot. Win10 might be a bit quicker to the login page on a 970, but it's still loading apps after login.

 

[Dodkrake]

LOL, 40 seconds to load RDR2

"bUt ItS nOt OpTiMiZeD"



Faster on a PC, which is also "not optimized".

What a fiasco.

 

[Orky]

UPDATED:

Just for fun guys, use your use, trust your eyes. I'll use 2 screenshots, one is claimed by DF to be native 4K (Halo Infinite), and another claimed to be 1440p with no evidence but BS (Demon's Souls), and will chop the screenshot:

Demon's Souls:

Halo Infinite:

800%:

Why DS is having more pixels, smaller? It's either DS is 8K or Halo is 1440p but DF were too tired to acknowledge!

can you please open a thread for this? Good knowledge. Thanks!

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Playing old games on new hardware omg the hardware stays quiet. Such a accomplishment.

Spoiler

Not

 

[VargasPaPuM]

You’re fake news.

haha the videos are live. lol
cool aid fake news lol

 

[Bladed Thesis]

So what is the story about XBox BC? CNET said games weren't "playable" but they were but had some issues or something?

I'd think games getting Day One XSX updates/patches aren't playable for this demo because they are expecting to be patched. That's what makes the most sense to me.

 

[jimbojim]

this is why every game on the ps4 and x1x shouldve had dynamic resolution and uncapped framerates.

the ps5 and xsx can easily do 1080p 120 fps for these games without the need for patches.

"- Load times drastically reduced and framerates improved in many titles "

RDR 2 says hi, Benji!. So, about Velocity architecture and instant 100 GB access. And RDR 2 is around 110 GB on Xbone, right?

 

[MastaKiiLA]

God damn there product managers are shambles. I am in a 12 man whatsapp group of casuals. Real casuals. None of them are talking about frames. All they said is they got new 4k tvs & will get FIFA,NBA,COD & a PS5. Not one convo about frames,SSD, Velocity trash, TFlops. This all online fanboy stuff. That casuals don't care. No research will defeat great looking games.

The sad reality that a significant number of our peers are football chavs and fps knobs. LOL!

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

soo it is fake news. humor

 

[Dodkrake]

So this 550 MB ssd is loading RDR2 faster than Xbox's 2,400 GBps ssd.

36 seconds vs 38 seconds.

something isnt right here. are we sure there is a 2.4 gbps ssd in there?

There is. It's just that the console has a massive bottleneck somewhere. May not affect all games, but it does seem to affect quite a few. The fastest loaded what, 1GB/s? maybe 1.5? And that was Outer Worlds.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's good to hear

 

[BlueXImpulse]

Could Red Dead be loading faster on PC because the PC version is maybe using better textures?

 

[MastaKiiLA]

ok. i thought i read somewhere the usable space on a 1 tb ssd was around 960 GB. 920 gb is even worse. this means the digital only xbox series s will only have 350 gb of ssd space for games.

this is going to be even worse for ps5 owners because there is only 760 gb of ssd space. if the ps5 is roughly around 100 gb, we are looking at only 650 gb of usable space.

931GB of usable space on a 1TB 970 Evo+ (NVME) without overprovisioning.
1.86TB of usable space on a 2TB 860 Evo (SATA) without overprovisioning.

 

[martino]

That's good to hear

imo it's best to wait it plays next gen games to judge , no ?
of course it is....

 

[VargasPaPuM]

You’re fake news.

 

[Dodkrake]

What's the fucking point using backwards compat games as a showcase for loading times?

They don't have any next gen games to show?