Zathalus
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Well shit, looks like I was wrong about PS5 having the full RDNA2 feature set.
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Well shit, looks like I was wrong about PS5 having the full RDNA2 feature set.
FunkMiller
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The text is taken from the main Xbox blog post, so it's a fair enough headline.
Rossco EZ
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phil retweeted so must be
Nowcry
Member
We have seen all RDNA2 GPUs with infinity cache exceeding 2 GHz and the trolls are coming because they don't know what they have seen. They have not seen anything, I have seen that they have mentioned infinity cache that practically all GPUs exceed 2.2 GHz of game clock. And that Lian Lu has said that infinity cache combines perfectly with 256 bits.
Which is the perfect definition of what Cerny said on Road to PS5.
And when they upload the hotchip and we can see where the infinity cache is, although during the video they have commented that it is L3 and I do not want to say anything but in the hotchip that we have neither infinity cache appears nor does it have RDNA2 clocks nor does it have L3 caches.
They just described RDNA2 in full and it just isn't what is in the hotchip we have.
Which is the perfect definition of what Cerny said on Road to PS5.
And when they upload the hotchip and we can see where the infinity cache is, although during the video they have commented that it is L3 and I do not want to say anything but in the hotchip that we have neither infinity cache appears nor does it have RDNA2 clocks nor does it have L3 caches.
They just described RDNA2 in full and it just isn't what is in the hotchip we have.
zubairali2
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A Closer Look at How Xbox Series X|S Integrates Full AMD RDNA 2 Architecture - Xbox Wire
We here at Team Xbox would like to congratulate and celebrate our amazing partners at AMD on today’s announcement of the Radeon RX 6000 Series of RDNA 2 GPUs. It was incredible to see AMD demonstrate the power and potential that the new AMD RDNA 2 architecture can deliver to gamers around the...news.xbox.com
well, there it is.
and still no games lol
ThaMonkeyClaw
Member
Anyone else getting this message when submitting your Processing Unit serial number?
Lysandros
Member
The 'boost clocks' of discrete PC GPU's and the custom variable frequency feature of PS5 are not the same thing at all. Take a look at Road to PS5 again.
Metroiddarks
Member
I read and basically says "well AMD is using the names as us because they use DirectX" because Xbox is not
mentioning Infinite cache in any place and please don't tell me is not an essential part of RDNA 2 with those
high clocks.
Basically any feature you see in one side exists in the other but only using another name.
I triggered someone with a green avatar.... good.
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Andodalf
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Saying this was banworthy in this thread like, yesterday.
A lot of people are about to delete accounts
onesvenus
Member
Can you read? I said ustained clocks, none of the game clocks on any of the Radeon 6000 GPUs is higher than 2.04Ghz. Boost clocks are higher, that's true but those are not sustained clocks.
Gudji
Member
Why would PS5 have Direct X features?
Handy Fake
Member
More or less, aye.
They've gone with the full featureset to keep parity with the PC cards is my guess.
saintjules
Member
Feels like a fist fight today lol. Series X unboxing, then PS5 counters by showing more games/announcements and then MS goes like, "oh yeah? OH YEAH?!" *slaps full RDNA2 news*
FunkMiller
Banned
XBox uses full RDNA 2 and PlayStation takes some bits of it, but we can't tell which is the better solution at the moment? Is that about it?
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onesvenus
Member
VRS and mesh shaders are not "just software" though
THE:MILKMAN
Member
After that Xbox Tweet the RDX podcast cast will be feasting this week!
I've had a great day today so I'm just going to enjoy the entertainment/fallout.
I've had a great day today so I'm just going to enjoy the entertainment/fallout.
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ToadMan
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Cerny made clear in his presentation and in the Eurogamer interview - the PS5 uses continuous boost.
So the boost clock is the game clock on PS5.
But to me - clock speed really misses the point. Sony has the power monitoring system - the clocks don't matter as much as what is done during each clock cycle and the power for that.
danielJackson
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Kind of same when nintendo used stock tegra X1 = custom would have been better option.
So, it is quite possible that "full rdna2 desktop feature set" is actually worse than custom one. On full rdna2 there is almost certainly parts that are not needed on consoles or could be replaced by more customized ones as system is closed.
Tl:dr full rdna2 could be the lazy option, not the best option
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Three Jackdaws
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Not sure if this is new, looks like it was updated just recently, AMD highlighting their ray tracing method which is the same as what Cerny stated in the Road to PS5 talk, a specialised unit in the CU handling the intersections of rays.
Gudji
Member
In this case they're using proprietary MS APis, sony has their own. Matt confirmed VRS for PS5 months ago and yes I know there's different levels of VRS.
Infinity cache probably isn't in consoles because of price but also not needed because they are designed differently.
onesvenus
Member
Then you know that saying Mesh shaders and VRS are "just software" is not true. Thanks.
xacto
Member
It's 2013 all over again
Mistakes were made and lessons not learned.
ToadMan
Member
Because Sony isn't using AMDs method to power it's console.
Handy Fake
Member
Well, RedGaming agrees with me. Marvellous.
sircaw
Banned
yep, its the standard R2dna, Sony have specialized or created silicone what they needed or wanted.
It's totally understandable like Handy fake said, direct x is pc and xbox so they would want those features to remain the same.
You could say Sony have specialized there version.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Nobody really has any clue either way.
"Customizations" are just that.. customizations. In the past that has sometimes meant advancements, and other times it's meant some cost cutting measure.
Let the games do the talking, and the developers.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
It really doesnt matter comparing them side by side.
Gudji
Member
You understood very well what I wanted to say, both are hardware supported.
sircaw
Banned
and there it is, look at my last post above.
Fuck me i am not a complete arse clown in this hardware tech stuff.
Nickolaidas
Banned
Hah! The guy who was all like, 'lol, 50 fps difference' now says 'both will be amazing'?
Really interested what he'll be saying once MM, DS get released and those PS5 BC load times will finally be revealed ...
HawarMiran
Banned
I mean what is Sony waiting for? Why don't they talk about the GPU in detail? Console is out soon
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Three Jackdaws
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He made a lot of interesting comments during his live stream although I couldn't make out some of it due to the poor mic quality and volume.
Lysandros
Member
Yes, that's the 'intersection engine' from Road to PS5.
Not sure if this is new, looks like it was updated just recently, AMD highlighting their ray tracing method which is the same as what Cerny stated in the Road to PS5 talk, a specialised unit in the CU handling the intersections of rays.
WelshBluebird
Member
The simple response to that xbox tweet is that Microsoft are clearly referencing the DirectX integration.
Anyone who is surprised that the PS5 doesn't use DirectX should get out of this thread!
Anyone who is surprised that the PS5 doesn't use DirectX should get out of this thread!
Gudji
Member
Talking about GPUs in detail doesn't sell consoles, games do.
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Three Jackdaws
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Exactly my thoughts lmao
LucasBR
Member
I was watching as well but his mic was shit... I'm going to wait for him to drop a video explaining everything.
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