Disco_
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Would fall inline with the Wired article reveals. Not really a gaming magazine but a tech one with a much wider audience.
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CameFromNearFuture
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Lol
Check your hype.
I dont expect any megatons ps5 related.
At Max some demos showing SSD applications and virtual reality ezpanding gaming interaction and imersiveness.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I believe he laughed about it in an interview after with the parody account and all those glorious memes back then.
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CameFromNearFuture
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Exclusive: A Deeper Look at the PlayStation 5
Now that the name is official, we've got more details about Sony's next-gen console—from the haptics-packed controller to UI improvements.
360 Audio . VR TV , 180/360 video or something like that
Well they already have the 180/360 camera but they are probably taking it to a new level
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Though I do think Sony has done a keynote for a new TV or smartphone series before.
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Agnostic2020
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Yea they have done keynote for their electronics before (unrelated to PS I mean )Thought I do think Sony has done a keynote for a new TV or smartphone series before.
sonomamashine
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Insane Metal
Member
Well, do we know whether they were or not?
Insane Metal
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And this means....?
bitbydeath
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Did Microsoft invite them to the game awards or even to CES were they’re supposed to be revealing specs?
Imtjnotu
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at this point what the fuck does any of this mean.
tired of komachis letters and numbers lol
TLZ
Banned
0.5tf PS5.
sonomamashine
Member
They post an article about it.
TeamGhobad
Banned
we know MS is gonna be there so that means no sony.
demigod
Member
It means R600 keeps regurgitating old komachi tweets to fit his narrative that PS5 is 40CU when komachi is already been told there's bigger PS5.
It means Oberon contains Ariel refs.
Ariel GPU PCI ID - 13e9 (this is stepping from Jan)
Gonzalo first stepping ( ES2) January
2G16002CE8JA2_32/10/10_13E9
(10 - 1.0GHZ / 13E9 - Ariel)
Gonzalo second stepping April
ZG16702AE8JB2_32/10/18_13F8
(18 - 1.8GHZ / 13F8 - 2nd stepping Ariel)
Flute Benchmark (July - now deleted)
(Notice codename and PCI code and clocks 1.8GHZ 13F9)
Oberon August (check the clocks)
So, Gonzalo, Flute and Oberon are all connected. They share same Arial refs, but each stepping got frequency update and PCI id update. All of them are characters from Shakespeare writings.
My opinion :
Gonzalo 1 and 2 where dev kit chips.
Nr1 one had 1GHZ clocks (remember Cery saying to Wired they had slow kits out at that time)
Nr2 had 1.8GHZ clocks (and that stepping went out in April).
Flute is AMD platform (PS5) codename.
Oberon is codename for final retail chip (2.0GHZ). Currently A0 stepping, therefore final one would be expected by March.
Thats my theory. Thats why Apisak FS score of ~10K for 1.0GHZ Gonzalo 1, and ~20K for 1.8GHZ Gonzalo 2 make sense. I guess score for Oberon would be ~21.5K judging by clocks.
Reason why I came up to 40CUs is simply because 8 core 2700 (similar to one that we will find in consoles) at 3.8GHZ + 5700XT at 2.0GHZ score around 22K.
That fits to console of around 10TF. What demigod and other illiterate fanboys say I dont care, I am trying to put pieces of puzzle we have here and wont get into pety shit with people whos 99% of posts here read like they have been posted on GameFAQ
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I wrote detailed post as good as I could on my phone to try to describe the numbers letters and codenames.
CyberPanda
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343 dev chimes in about Lockhart.
chemical boy
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Lockhart is clear that it exists and Jason is slowly getting everything right. It will be curious if MS launches 2 consoles both less powerful than PS5.
FranXico
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My guess is XSX is slightly more powerful than the PS5, although the difference is being overstated in forums at the moment. So, Sony will end up with a mid-tier console that is pretty close to the most powerful. If they price it right, it could have the best power to cost ratio.
But then again, they are not being funded by a monopoly. Time will tell.
CyberPanda
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bitbydeath
Member
Was this posted already?
twinfinite.net
Kadokawa own From Software.
Kadokawa Games In Negotiations to Develop a PS5 Game
Kadokawa Games has been tackling a variety of platforms for its games, including PS4, Steam, and Nintendo Switch, but the next-generation is approaching.
twinfinite.net
Kadokawa own From Software.
Imagine people calling me fanboy because I predicted 40CUs and it ends up 36 in the end (who knows?)
TLZ
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Ohyou.gif.Imagine people calling me fanboy because I predicted 40CUs and it ends up 36 in the end (who knows?)
Still early my friend. I mean, if I am wrong its all good, but I do think Oberon is 316mm² chip with 36-40CUs clocked 2.0GHZ.
They have to go for 399$ to make biggest and fastest transition to PS5, and leaks from AMD data miners have been extremely consistent so I like my chances.
Dee Dah Dave
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Whoomp, there it is
chemical boy
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That's 9.2 Tflops when all sources have reported that both consoles had 2 digits and PS5 was ahead.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Did we time-jump back to 1998? That's about the last time MS was an actual monopoly, even the Supreme Court had to cut in on their BS. But now? There isn't any particular area they dominate other than desktop PC OS and (arguably) server market (I think Google has a bigger share there, though). Everything else there's a bigger player, be it Apple and Samsung (smartphones), Sony (console gaming), etc.
MS's just been (mostly) smart to diversify its portfolio and do relatively well in most of those new market segments they joined. "Mostly" because there's some obvious spots they missed that allowed competitors to cement their place (social media being a huge one; tablets another but I hear the Surface tablets are pretty good, etc.).
About the specs and stuff...tbh I still don't like the idea of Lockhart, but there's a 50/50 chance they have a power edge over PS5. Most insiders have been giving that to PS5 but at the same time a lot of those guys may or may not be very credible after all. Any power increase it has over PS5 (if that happens) will be in reaction to PS5 specs, and the ceiling to where they can push that depends on how the system's already designed at its core. But just like in the PS5 > XSEX scenario, the difference overall won't be any more than 10% (I'd argue even less than that), though that's with overall specs in mind not just TFLOPs.
It's the pricing that's going to be most interesting and MS has a harder task on their hands in that regard than Sony because of this dual system approach they're so eager to push through with.
Agnostic2020
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It’s gonna be a long month and half before Sony talks lol
With all these numbers who knows what is what anymore . What is Oberon and what is OberonA0 ? Why they r two entities now ?
With all these numbers who knows what is what anymore . What is Oberon and what is OberonA0 ? Why they r two entities now ?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It would make zero sense for Sony to release a 9 TF console, while MS drops a 12 TF console in the same month. That $100 difference (in a lower price) wouldn't be worth it. And no way RT and 4K would work in 9 TF console.
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36x64x2x2(GHZ) = 9.3TF
40x64x2x2(GHZ) = 10.2TF
Oberon A0 only means its first stepping.
Dee Dah Dave
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9.3TF + Zen 2 for 399 is a great console
12TF + Zen 2 for 499 is also a great console
Pick your poison
12TF + Zen 2 for 499 is also a great console
Pick your poison
demigod
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Agnostic2020
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No they guy is saying they r two separate chips . One is called Oberon and one is called Oberon a0 both being worked on by amd
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xPikYx
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They both look shit to me, 399$ for not even 10tf in almost 2021?
Imtjnotu
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I'll take the more powerful any day. If next gen is split by 3 tf sony done fucked up
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