Proelite
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I was shitting on the XB1 as soon as I knew about the always online stuff in early 2013.
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I was shitting on the XB1 as soon as I knew about the always online stuff in early 2013.
TLZ
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Just wondering about the era people you're basing your info on, if they're reliable or not. But again, that's still old news right.
We have several reports from 2018 on Sony delivering dev kits already. If you want fastest transition ever, as Ryan said, you need to have software ready and compeling price.
Dev kits in 2018 had to be GCN, there was no Navi in sight at that time so what you provide is best you can to match finale hardware. That would be ~13TF GCN...
Not saying that happened, but remember, no way they had 13TF Navi in 2018. They had 1.0GHZ Navi in Jan 2019....
Insane Metal
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Nothing new really, console comes out later, console comes more powerful. Just like the original XBox.
DForce
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He said 14 is more realistic than 9/10. He didn't say it will be 14.
bitbydeath
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Seems unlikely that Sony had devkits ready in 2018 and MS only got them out in the last few months.
X was on same process and same tech, so they had no manufacturing advantage or anything. They just went for bigger die size and extra 100$
Yo Tim, can i see too?
TLZ
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But like you said, that's 2018, and plenty of testing and changing since then would have happened, and still happening. All I'm positive of at this moment, is that both are keeping their cards as close to their chest as possible. Both waiting for that one chance (slip up?) to one up the other. And at the end of the day, I, the consumer, win. Both powerful machines to enjoy games on.
Not true. PS5 really could have been aimed at 2019 and didnt pan out (BC, Navi delay). We know AMD started to design Navi for Sony 1st, so there is a hypotesis there
April 2018
No PS5 before 2020
Kotaku insists Charlie got it all wrong Kotaku insists that Charlie Demerjian's theory that the PS5's launch window is 2018 or early 2019 is complete pants. For those who came in late, Charlie at Semiaccurate told those who paid for his elite tip-off service that Sony’s PlayStatio...
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Imtjnotu
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A little late to the party Timmy
Yep, the CEO even gave an interview about the delay because wanting to make PS5 the dream or some shit, probably beacuse of the BC, and the rumors are that its still not 100%Not true. PS5 really could have been aimed at 2019 and didnt pan out (BC, Navi delay). We know AMD started to design Navi for Sony 1st, so there is a hypotesis there
April 2018
No PS5 before 2020
Kotaku insists Charlie got it all wrong Kotaku insists that Charlie Demerjian's theory that the PS5's launch window is 2018 or early 2019 is complete pants. For those who came in late, Charlie at Semiaccurate told those who paid for his elite tip-off service that Sony’s PlayStatio...www.fudzilla.com
bitbydeath
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Not true. PS5 really could have been aimed at 2019 and didnt pan out (BC, Navi delay). We know AMD started to design Navi for Sony 1st, so there is a hypotesis there
April 2018
No PS5 before 2020
Kotaku insists Charlie got it all wrong Kotaku insists that Charlie Demerjian's theory that the PS5's launch window is 2018 or early 2019 is complete pants. For those who came in late, Charlie at Semiaccurate told those who paid for his elite tip-off service that Sony’s PlayStatio...
What's not true?
AMD had confirmed working with Sony on 'secret sauce.' If that's what you were referring.
AMD says it's helping Sony with the PlayStation 5's 'special sauce'
Sony is working on its next-gen console, and that’s hardly a secret at this point. But while the PlayStation 5 isn’t expected to drop this …
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chemical boy
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¿Xbox Serie X?
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Little Chicken
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Specs are looking more and more likely to mirror that original Reddit leak back in January.
TLZ
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Or this one
PS5 BC troubles - Pastebin.com
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Little Chicken
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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Man that OG Xbone was weak as. I wouldn't have minded that if sold cheaper, but add insult to injury and sell it for a $100 more, because of forced accessory nobody cared about? So, so stupid. I hope they never ever go back to that stupidity ever again. They won’t. They lost a lot of their...
Imtjnotu
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Sony better fucking not give is 9tf and have MS give us 12Or this one
PS5 BC troubles - Pastebin.com
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Dee Dah Dave
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I still think anything can happen tbh. But to me the 2 SKU Xbox approach makes the most sense if they land either side of PS5.
Also I think with one console, 399 is the best strategy for Sony. They have the bulk of the market share and will want to keep as many as possible. Sure, some would buy the better Xbox instead but I don't think they will lose too many customers.
Who the fuck knows!
Also I think with one console, 399 is the best strategy for Sony. They have the bulk of the market share and will want to keep as many as possible. Sure, some would buy the better Xbox instead but I don't think they will lose too many customers.
Who the fuck knows!
Proelite
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bitbydeath
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+Arden
2nd stepping. Same chip, revision.
Xbox X is Arden - ID 1607. Has nothing to do with Ariel.
Proelite
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Literally not a Shakespeare character.
Well, if PS5 end up being 9 or so, MS don't need to push 12.Sony better fucking not give is 9tf and have MS give us 12
bitbydeath
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Imtjnotu
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Yes they do lol. I'd buy a 12tf machine before I buy a 9
Proelite
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Arden Shakespeare - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Like I said not a Shakespeare character.
THE:MILKMAN
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No but Arden was the maiden name of his mother!
It is. These are all AMD codenames, not Sony. Same with last gen.
Shakespear codenames are for custom console APUs with AMD.
Proelite
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I was saying Arden is not a character from the book like the others.
chemical boy
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Sony better fucking not give is 9tf and have MS give us 12
Date December 2, I would not give any credibility to this.
Yes I understand now.
Ariel, Oberon, Gonzalo, Flute - all characters from Shakespear.
Arden - not a character, but is from Shakespear.
Self High Five
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Sony better fucking not give is 9tf and have MS give us 12
LOL. 9tf, likely lower CPU clock than XSX, same amount of ram & still $499.
Yeah that's a wet dream if I ever saw one.
TLZ
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Is that even possible?Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Man that OG Xbone was weak as. I wouldn't have minded that if sold cheaper, but add insult to injury and sell it for a $100 more, because of forced accessory nobody cared about? So, so stupid. I hope they never ever go back to that stupidity ever again. They won’t. They lost a lot of their...www.neogaf.com
Imtjnotu
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That price is a $399 machine
Little Chicken
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Sony better fucking not give is 9tf and have MS give us 12
If people started saving their coins now they'd be able to buy both at launch
Self High Five
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But that's how lazy that pastebin is. Underpowered to the competition but still the ethusiast $499 price.
Its interesting because when the full specs are revealed we're gonna find a pastebin that was very close or on the money...but there is soo much junk out there at the same time.
Fucking HBM again...Can't wait for both reveal the specsPlaystation 5 custom soc aka Sony secret wepon
Imtjnotu
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Get that PS6 shit out of herePlaystation 5 custom soc aka Sony secret wepon
Proelite
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bitbydeath
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense for both Oberon and Ariel to both be GPU's. Are people really expecting dual GPU's in the PS5?
No, I think it means Oberon and Ariel refs match. As in, they are same chip.
Ctrl + F - ariel
You will find that PCI id (GPU) part is 13E9. Which matches Gonzalo GPU id (which also matches to Flute and Oberon).
You wil also find 20+ other parts of Ariel here. (CPU as well)
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7+7 = 14
Proelite
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7+7 = 14
Yep. Dual Navi 10s
The V shaped devkits makes sense! There is an APU on each side!
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