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[CyberPanda]

What does this mean? 16/32gb ddr6?

edit: nevermind

Means 16GB of GDDR6 @14Gbps

I was close.

 

[R600]

What does this mean? 16/32gb ddr6?

Means 16GB of GDDR6 @14Gbps

 

[Little Chicken]

_rogame may as well give us everything at this point.

 

[CyberPanda]

_rogame may as well give us everything at this point.

I agree. Fuck reveals lol

 

[XcloudTimdog]

_rogame may as well give us everything at this point.

He just may

 

[R600]

Scarlett reveal trailer

320bit bus 14Gbps chips - 560GB/s

560/12TF - 46.6GB/s per TF

Oberon 256bit bus 14Gbps - 448GB/s

448/9.3TG - 48.1GB/s per TF

Fits very well. These are your consoles people lol

 

[TLZ]

Scarlett reveal trailer

320bit bus 14Gbps chips - 560GB/s

560/12TF - 46.6GB/s per TF

Oberon 256bit bus 14Gbps - 448GB/s

448/9.3TG - 48.1GB/s per TF

Fits very well. These are your consoles people lol

But he didn't mention anything about a console having 12tf. He said both A0 and B0 are similar specs. If we're assuming he means PS5 and Xbox SX.

 

[R600]

But he didn't mention anything about a console having 12tf. He said both A0 and B0 are similar specs. If we're assuming he means PS5 and Xbox SX.

No, he said A0 and B0 Oberon chip have same specs.

A0 and B0 are just revisions of same chip.

I am talking about wgat MS showed with Scarlet reveal. 320bit bus with 14Gbps chips and now confirmed (?) 12TF brings pretty much same TF per GB/s number as leaked Oberon specs (9.3TF, 256bit bus on 14Gbps chips).

This is important as Sony and MS use same tech for GPUs and will shot for same GB/s per TF number. When you do the math, MS just went abit over board with it and thats why you see PC tower like console.

PS5 will still pull 215W from wall so certainly more then ANY PS at time of releaae.

 

[Rightisright]

We may never be given the full clock speeds and tflops numbers. If they are moving away from flops as a mark of power, it might just be never spoken of.
In the old days it was all about how many polygons a console put out, now no one talks about polygons. Flops may go the same way.

 

[Aceofspades]

But he didn't mention anything about a console having 12tf. He said both A0 and B0 are similar specs. If we're assuming he means PS5 and Xbox SX.

Difference between PS5 and Xbox shouldn't be that big. Lets assume that this news is true and PS5 is 9.2TF (RDNA) . Until now only thing MS confirmed is twice GPU power of X which falls exactly within the 9TF RDNA, they even refused to answer DF when asked specifically about clarification on this.

MS tactic can blow up majorly in their face if Xbox ends up less than 12TF RDNA.

I can't wait to see how this saga will unfold

 

[DeepEnigma]

Still team 10 range for both.

10 range lines up more with 2x the X1X GPU than 12 does taking into account GCN ~ RDNA.

Now if “over 2x X1X” was said, then I would buy into being over 10 more.

 

[Primordialform]

I'm putting my faith in Klee and others who have consistenly reported 12-14TF PS5. This phase will pass over. Keep the faith.

 

[R600]

This guy is a fucking beast

 

[Aceofspades]

This guy is a fucking beast

Accepted by who?

 

[CyberPanda]

This guy is a fucking beast

The floodgates are open lmao

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

This guy is a fucking beast

That is a AMD engineer! Going a little far.

 

[TLZ]

No, he said A0 and B0 Oberon chip have same specs.

A0 and B0 are just revisions of same chip.

I am talking about wgat MS showed with Scarlet reveal. 320bit bus with 14Gbps chips and now confirmed (?) 12TF brings pretty much same TF per GB/s number as leaked Oberon specs (9.3TF, 256bit bus on 14Gbps chips).

This is important as Sony and MS use same tech for GPUs and will shot for same GB/s per TF number. When you do the math, MS just went abit over board with it and thats why you see PC tower like console.

PS5 will still pull 215W from wall so certainly more then ANY PS at time of releaae.

But then I guess this should confirm both consoles have 9.2tf Navi, which is in turn double the performance of Xbox One X's 6tf GCN as mentioned in DF's video, which Phil approved in a way.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Difference between PS5 and Xbox shouldn't be that big. Lets assume that this news is true and PS5 is 9.2TF (RDNA) . Until now only thing MS confirmed is twice GPU power of X which falls exactly within the 9TF RDNA, they even refused to answer DF when asked specifically about clarification on this.

MS tactic can blow up majorly in their face if Xbox ends up less than 12TF RDNA.

I can't wait to see how this saga will unfold

Richard Ledbetters source is RDNA, said as much as today, i broke that this news would be broken. The original sources were ironclad brother. Its rnda. Sony is rnda.

 

[CameFromNearFuture]

And you’re still wrong.
14TF PS5 is more realistic than what you’re suggesting.

Why? Because what you’re suggesting has nothing to do with RDNA2.

Next Xbox will be based off the 5800 and PS5 is either based off the 5800 or 5900. There is nothing else that offers Ray-Tracing.

Ps5 being 12f or more Will be a Death sentence for far too many people here.

I dont want to be in their skin

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Ps5 being 12f or more Will be a Death sentence for far too many people here.

I dont want to be in their skin

So you firmly don't believe 9.2TF? What is your bet/guess?

 

[R600]

36CUs

 

[Aceofspades]

Richard Ledbetters source is RDNA, said as much as today, i broke that this news would be broken. The original sources were ironclad brother. Its rnda. Sony is rnda.

I stopped reading at Richard Leadbetter.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

I stopped reading at Richard Leadbetter.

Oh ok

 

[TLZ]

Accepted by who?

A Persian nuclear scientist working on the Xbox SX from his bunker.

Xbox SX is nuclear powered confirmed.

 

[CyberPanda]

36CUs

No more! Make
It stop.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

36CUs

36cus all adding up

 

[sonomamashine]

My guess is XSX is slightly more powerful than the PS5, although the difference is being overstated in forums at the moment. So, Sony will end up with a mid-tier console that is pretty close to the most powerful. If they price it right, it could have the best power to cost ratio.
But then again, they are not being funded by a monopoly. Time will tell.

Thats what i'm saying, MS need to beat Sony on the TF count, even if they loose money.

It would make zero sense for Sony to release a 9 TF console, while MS drops a 12 TF console in the same month. That $100 difference (in a lower price) wouldn't be worth it. And no way RT and 4K would work in 9 TF console.

I don't think MS console is 12TF RDNA, why wouldn't 4k or RT work on a 9TF console ?

36x64x2x2(GHZ) = 9.3TF
40x64x2x2(GHZ) = 10.2TF

⬇⬇⬇

5800 Lite (APU) = next gen consoles (5700xt + RT) +/- 10%.

And you’re still wrong.
14TF PS5 is more realistic than what you’re suggesting.

Why? Because what you’re suggesting has nothing to do with RDNA2.

Next Xbox will be based off the 5800 and PS5 is either based off the 5800 or 5900. There is nothing else that offers Ray-Tracing.

you're a lost cause....

14? Really?

Oh baby Jesus... lol

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.

OK. So the bet below 10TF you win and above 10TF I win. That sound fair?

Why are you cheating ?

yep. For the retail PS5. The devkit is currently 10.24TF.

Don't take his bet.

If the PS5 comes at just over 9TF the internet will implode. Holy shit.

And I'll be extremely disappointed. That would make the XSX 30% more powerful.

There is no such thing as 30% are you crazy ?
Don't trust everything you read.

Sony cares about reputation and image .. i think they will avoid talking TF then say its 10 TF and then it will be just below so they dont have to bin so many.

Sony has a huge fan base so whatever they do it's gonna be fine, they have good exclusives.

Well, at the end of the day it all comes down to the price they're targeting.

Yes.

More realistic than 8-9TF.
I’m team 12TF.

You are all over the place.

wait, whatabout the 14 tho? lol

lol.

I already quoted you.
I’m team 12TF. The base hardware for RDNA2 doesn’t fall below 10 which is why 14 is more realistic.

Which is it then ?
10
12
14 ?

Or this one

PS5 BC troubles - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

pastebin.com

Yep, for me next gen Ram is between 16/20Gb.

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

Man that OG Xbone was weak as. I wouldn't have minded that if sold cheaper, but add insult to injury and sell it for a $100 more, because of forced accessory nobody cared about? So, so stupid. I hope they never ever go back to that stupidity ever again. They won’t. They lost a lot of their...

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Where did you get that x3 ?

Fucking HBM again...Can't wait for both reveal the specs

lol did you miss that 80CU ? lol + HBM

Will kinda be disappointed in a 30% difference!

not happening.

lol you alway late with those posts, lol you missed that one too.

5800 Lite (APU) = next gen consoles (5700xt + RT) +/- 10%.

APU (5700xt + RT) +/- 10%
Ram 16/20
Don't forget that Sony might launch 2 consoles like MS.

 

[Lendor]

A Persian nuclear scientist working on the Xbox SX from his bunker.

Xbox SX is nuclear powered confirmed.

Don't be salty dude, i already told you that.

Mirza is an AMD engineer

 

[xPikYx]

9tf...

 

[TLZ]

Don't be salty dude, i already told you that.

Mirza is an AMD engineer

How am I salty . I'm just playing around.

Actually I'd be very salty if both of them are 9.2tf. I want them no less than 12.

 

[R600]

This is Sony 1.3TF moment (although 9.2TF in normal console is ALOT -that is pushing it harder then PS3 - 200+ watts incoming)

 

[CyberPanda]

This is Sony 1.3TF moment (although 9.2TF in normal console is ALOT -that is pushing it harder then PS3 - 200+ watts incoming)

Ya it’s not like ps5 will be bad. People need to calm down

 

[Aceofspades]

After they brigaded and harassed anyone who suggested Scarlett was more powerful, let them burn.

Is it more powerful though?

 

[Little Chicken]

Don't forget that Sony might launch 2 consoles like MS.

We'd know by now.

I'd be incredibly surprised if Sony managed to keep that under wraps.

 

[R600]

Is it more powerful though?

20% more memory, BW 25% more TF and probably 100$ more IF MS is not lying about 12TF Navi (because this leak is 100% ldgit)

 

[Aceofspades]

20% more memory, BW 25% more TF and probably 100$ more IF MS is not lying about 12TF Navi (because this leak is 100% ldgit)

Bolded the important part.

 

[CameFromNearFuture]

Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

Man that OG Xbone was weak as. I wouldn't have minded that if sold cheaper, but add insult to injury and sell it for a $100 more, because of forced accessory nobody cared about? So, so stupid. I hope they never ever go back to that stupidity ever again. They won’t. They lost a lot of their...

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Imagine If true, How much of a troll Sony would be against the haters, making them think 36CUs is true and underpowered, but not exaclty lol

But who knows... Maybe It hás only 36CUs and this third clock is the New dual gpu and secret sauce bs, maybe none of You guys really know anything about cus amount.

The psm Will be fucking amazing I am sure about it

 

[Racer!]

We have Lockhart. RT + VRS APU confirmed.

 

[R600]

Bolded the important part.

Based on memory BW I think they are not. 560GB/s vs 448GB/s if Scarlett video is not fake.

 

[Imtjnotu]

Lol ps5 weak af confirmed

 

[DForce]

So, how much do we know about Arden?

 

[Aceofspades]

Based on memory BW I think they are not. 560GB/s vs 448GB/s if Scarlett video is not fake.

We still don't know about Xbox specs, hell even PS5. I will wait and see

 

[R600]

We still don't know about Xbox specs, hell even PS5. I will wait and see

I agree. But we do know alot. IMO enough to connect the dots.

 

[Bryank75]

So, are we looking at 9 to 10 RDNA TFlops on both..... so 12 to 13 TFlops of old GCN, as quoted from the Sex reveal?

 

[onQ123]

Imagine If true, How much of a troll Sony would be against the haters, making them think 36CUs is true and underpowered, but not exaclty lol

But who knows... Maybe It hás only 36CUs and this third clock is the New dual gpu and secret sauce bs, maybe none of You guys really know anything about cus amount.

The psm Will be fucking amazing I am sure about it

That post was from the beginning of the year just a wild speculation before Navi was revealed my guess would be that PS5 is going to use a big Navi chip with over 48CUs

 

[Racer!]

So, are we looking at 9 to 10 RDNA TFlops on both..... so 12 to 13 TFlops of old GCN, as quoted from the Sex reveal?

LOL relax. Just some irrelevant small navi apu info. Let the kids play alittle

 

[Lendor]

LOL relax. Just some irrelevant small navi apu info. Let the kids play alittle

irrelevant?

sure

 

[Rightisright]

So, are we looking at 9 to 10 RDNA TFlops on both..... so 12 to 13 TFlops of old GCN, as quoted from the Sex reveal?

So you think engineers multiple the theoretical flops of a given GPU, and then estimate how much more efficient the card is, then add that factor in to then give a rating?
No, otherwise the RDNA cards released by AMD would have had that same rubbish estimate put on them as well.

 

[CyberPanda]

 

[Insane Metal]

Cache Bandwidth (test) : (WGP=18, SA=4) (Write) - THOERITICAL : 2084 GB/s - ACHIEVED Ariel_B0 : 1556 GB/s - ACHIEVED Oberon A0 : 1654 GB/s Comments: "Full chip result. Already fixed in Oberon, the perf can reach 82% with the fix and the perf is accepted by Jimshed.Mirz

I have no idea what any of this means