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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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TylerDurden4321
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agreed! Thanks @dumb
A little shocked that FH3-dude is not only not wearing a helmet, fire proof suit, gloves and shoes... he's not even putting on the safety belt!
Sebmugi
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TylerDurden4321
Member
it's nothing
lol nice comment
I would make another small comparative
2 other things that I find interesting between in-game models of the same car:
- detail on the rims. For example you can find cars in Forza with rims where even the shape is obviously wrong, on some cars though even the smallest written details are modeled on them.
- position of the front wheels
here, full lock seems to be the same on both models, camber is not really noticeable on both. Some games have really different steering lock and amount of Ackermann for the same car.
Project CARS und Forza Motorsport 6
Summer Haze
Banned
Nice comparisons shots, dumb. Wouldn't mind a few more of those.
Headlights are much smaller in Forza, can't tell which one is accurate.
It's a real life shot for comparison lol. I wish racing games had drivers that detailed.good overall 3D modeling in FH3, it lacks good shaders, arriving on scorpio i think and then we will have a new graphics standard
autoevolution is not a game ?? reassure me ^^
TheAdmiester
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I have a feeling that each Atom might be a different region model (ie. Forza's devs scanned a US model with being in Seattle, Driveclub's devs scanned a UK model maybe), because when I google "Ariel Atom V8" the vast majority of the results have double headlights, while both games have a variation on triple headlights.
Most of the results match neither car so maybe there were a few different models.
Most of the results match neither car so maybe there were a few different models.
Inf3cted_b3ast
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Dumb great comparison man. Driveclub is a looker.
Dictator93
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The interesting thing is, I would not doubt if the surface shading model in both games is really really similar (as most games are these days that use PBS). DC though has the advantage of having SSR, which allows for micro-occlussion and self-reflections on top of the that. That is largest attibutable difference visible in those screens IMO.
Great, fh3 is seriously a looker.
dr guildo
Member
Sorry, but it is too whitewashed, the lighting is completely off. Looks like a drawing.
Risk Breaker
Member
I know I already mentioned this but am I really the only one bothered by the awful DoF effect in FH3's photomode?
SMOK3Y
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Ya that actual 4k shot aint that good tbh wheel & tyre look pretty bad
TheAdmiester
Member
That's just their photo mode settings, I've never seen any weather actually make it that colourless in game.
dr guildo
Member
based on the screen I commented, if it's not whitewashed, please, tell me what "whitewashed" is according to your standards.
Is it a weather setting, or photomode setting ? I don't know.
TylerDurden4321
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The Clio was not in FM5, so there are at least 200 older cars in Forza. I think it was a DLC car in FH2, but really not sure.I fully agree with you Dictator93
there are both small "artifacts" that appear with the photo mode on parts of some cars..in particular on the first car models, modeled for the game
as under the headlight of the Clio ^^
Is the paint supposed to be the same color in FH and DC? That's definitely not the same yellow.
Always-honest
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Well, considering FH3 is open world, i'd say they're both pretty insane.
I do think Driveclub could use a bit more AA (or downsampling on PRO).
dr guildo
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The real question is :
What is preventing DC to be open world technically ?
The world sets in DC is more huge than FH3 IMO, you can see the curvature of the Earth at high altitudes, and many screenshots proved that off road environments are as detailed as on-road and near-road environments. So technically, if Evolution decides all of a sudden to break the invisible walls set around the road, what will happen ?
Well, it takes time to add details around. In an open world game, details are more spread, while in a game that acts like a corridor, you can focus just around the track. Yes, the maps in Driveclub are insanely huge, but the invisible walls won't even let you go one meter out of the asphalt.
Talked about this before.
They render 260km of terrain for road focussed gameplay so 260km is rendered to varying degrees of quality. I suspect any open-world gameplay would be limited to roads only with this engine. Off-road gameplay would be limited to clearly defined dirt-tracks i.e. not off the beaten path.
I'd be fine with that though. Top Gear challenge style gameplay. I imagine The Crew's environments using DriveClub's engine and my mind is blown.
They render 260km of terrain for road focussed gameplay so 260km is rendered to varying degrees of quality. I suspect any open-world gameplay would be limited to roads only with this engine. Off-road gameplay would be limited to clearly defined dirt-tracks i.e. not off the beaten path.
I'd be fine with that though. Top Gear challenge style gameplay. I imagine The Crew's environments using DriveClub's engine and my mind is blown.
dr guildo
Member
^ off road environments are not very detailed. The LOD is pretty aggressively adjusted, which is harder to see from the track.
Hmm, Dumb and others have tons of off-road screenshots which make you sweat about your statement...
EGOMON
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In addition what others said, launch title vs 3rd year title
Driveclub wasn't a launch title. It came out like a year after the PS4 launched, and was iterated on well into its lifecycle with things like weather, POM, and the bikes expansion.
Overexposed is probably the word you're looking for. That's a standard setting for photo modes. It just means the high-range is "blown out."
dr guildo
Member
Look at this picture I took with the courtesy of Cayn from screenshots thread :
Notice the hill lacking of textures (LOD purpose).
Not very different from what Noobcraft has pointed in DC lastly.
So I re-ask my question for the experts who would come by here :
What is preventing DC to go open world ?
Notice the hill lacking of textures (LOD purpose).
Not very different from what Noobcraft has pointed in DC lastly.
So I re-ask my question for the experts who would come by here :
What is preventing DC to go open world ?
dr guildo
Member
Yeah, exactly that word, my vocabulary is not very rich since my native tongue is the french.
Excuse my english for not being as fluent as the one from people in here...
It's basically that the content, steaming and assets aren't really developed for "up close" views (or actual driving) on that scale. If you re-engineered the game, altered the handling model, and developed assets for proximity....it could work, but at that point you'd be describing a different game. Not just new assets, but new engineering would be needed.
Bits N Pieces
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Get onto Sony on Twitter and tell them just to make it open world then, remove all those invisible walls. Simples.
Dat sky <3
GTP_Daverytimes
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I fully agree with you Dictator93
there are both small "artifacts" that appear with the photo mode on parts of some cars..in particular on the first car models, modeled for the game
as under the headlight of the Clio ^^
You will think that after so many Forza games Turn 10 should be approaching getting lighting right.
They do get the lighting right...for people who aren't insane. The game looks phenomenal.
TheAdmiester
Member
Ha, good one.
Truth is they got it right years ago. FH3 is just the current peak of it.
Unless you're trying to say this isn't getting it "right"?
TheAdmiester
Member
Blatant ripoff of my pic.
Yours is in a race and is clearly in motion, case dismissed.
Ha
Ha, good one.
Truth is they got it right years ago. FH3 is just the current peak of it.
Unless you're trying to say this isn't getting it "right"?
People might be reading this forum at work, you know! Try a NSFW tag next time!
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