-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
- Thread starter Gestault
- Start date
It's just the particular image, which is far-out standard headlights cast over the top of a hill, next to specialty rally headlights with the camera pointed at it on the approach. You can actually see the HID (white) headlights in the warmer rally headlights, even then. By the time that gif ends, only one car is even visible over that hill.
It's the same idea as you're seeing here, where the car to the left appears to only project a smaller version of its headlights on the body of the car as it pulls to the right. It's the car furthest ahead on that side compared to the player car, so you'd figure the surface on the left would get darker as it pulls away, or more obvious headlights casting to the right after it gets around the player car's back. In both games, anyone who plays them knows the AI cars obviously project light sources (multi-colored depending on the type of bulbs, as well).
SolidSnakex
Member
SunhiLegend gracing us with some gifs
Praise the Sun(hiLegend).
AbandonedTrolley
Member
What is interesting in the first one is seeing the cars own shadow out the window towards the end of the clip
mattwhite924
Member
Ah lol I know nothing about Transformers, too young I guess.
Looking it up quickly it seems they based it off the Stratos Group 5 car? That's cool.
Haha, sorry, I always forget that they took the pain scheme from a real car, so I assumed that you did a custom Wheeljack paint job.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
DC and DC Bikes both platinumed and they were both my most played racing games between December 2014 until sometime in 2016! If only someone at SEI feels the burning desire to make a sequel with more newer locations, more cars and bikes, more challenges, ability to race bike and car together, improve on the replay cams!
LostDonkey
Member
Didn't need for speed shift 2 do that as well?? And then of course Project Cars in turn.
I remember at the time in Shift 2 the headlights casting shadows of cars they hit and being impressed.
SolidSnakex
Member
The DoF, Motion Blur and angles are next level.
sems4arsenal
Member
Keep going back and forth between GTS and DC. DC's replays are atrocious compared to GTS.
GTS' main issue is the LOD pop in of trees. Really hope they fix it. The trees themselves don't bother me at all.
GTS' main issue is the LOD pop in of trees. Really hope they fix it. The trees themselves don't bother me at all.
Yes, they are very gif friendly.
SolidSnakex
Member
A good comparison of Willow Springs that shows the leap from GT6 to GTS
GT6
GTS
GT6
GTS
Define 'fully damageable' cars? By that you mean the industry standard dents and scrapes with a few bit and pieces coming lose? Not exactly revolutionary. Not even evolutionary. Just the same as every other developer and racing game.
Gran Turismo 5 had a damage modelling revolution going on but that got canned, because of...gamers.
Youre right, its not fair considering you missed out a list of features not present in Forza MotorSport on XBOX360 some still not present in this generations titles. I mean where do you factor in head-tracking, real-time day-to-night transitions, real-time weather and fully procedural damage modelling (for a time before the complaining)?
I mean how hard can it be for Turn 10 to implement this stuff in 2016 on a current generation system? So I echo your\ sentiments, these conclusions are absolutely not acceptable. Not even close.
I've gone over this before, seen many video's and it's boring now so I'll just leave this hear - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=207597577&postcount=830
Just to add I bought Forza Motorsport 2, 3 (Limited Edition Case and Keyring) & a bit of 4 (looking at the footage now I do remember the Spanish and costal themed tracks...but it was a fling rather than a desire). The rest is just basic research.
Of the three, Forza MotorSport 2 was my favourite. It felt more playful, raw and inspiring. From then on things got way too clinical.
You missed the context. I clearly stated 'shared technologies'. Additionally, one delivers a confined space at 60fps and the other an expansive world at 30fps. Both should be able to display the same lighting technology, right? Forza MotorSport doesn't seem to be. It's not as good. It's never been good.
Another stunning Forza Horizon 3 showing.
You don't know how happy I am seeing more accurate dash reflections on the windshield. When Forza 5 launched, they prioritized showing it off (because they were one of the first), so they artificially had the steering-wheel rotation visible on the glass, even in a few cars where it made NO sense. They thankfully tweaked it down in subsequent games, but that's one of those cases where I prefer Gran Turismo's less flashy approach on special effects.
Does dirt build up on the windshield in GTS?
I haven't seen it in the wild (from watching a bunch footage), but I never got into the beta, so I got no firsthand. The recent patching could have easily added it and I wouldn't know.
Looking over that thread... you're probably right, that this would be a pretty boring (and potentially annoying) back-and-forth. Whilst I'll agree that seeing footage of a game running locked for X amount of minutes is hardly a guarantee that framedrops outright don't exist ever in a title... it's hardly "history" that indicates it won't be 60fps locked either. Shit, I'd even argue that being able to show literally minutes of footage where the framerate is locked at 60fps is significantly more historical evidence, than a lack of footage showing otherwise. In that previous discussion, you remarked that "if Digital Foundry says it's stable all of the time, you take their word for it"... fair enough, but if you're going to claim that it isn't 60fps (and by extension the next game won't be either), then you need to substantiate it, and with more than "well, maybe if we ran the tests for hours we'd possibly find some".
I remember Forza 2 used to hitch quite a bit, at least once a race. Not sure if it was my 360 but it was definitely there. I remember 3 and 4 being pretty flawless though. Never played 5 but I expect it was similar.
As for Gran Turismo, were 3 and 4 a stable 60? I've only ever emulated them in the last decade lol.
Stillmatic
Member
Lol, nice. It looks amazing. Horizon 4 on Scorpio will be the clear king for a while I reckon.
Wish we got to see what a Driveclub 2 or new Motorstorm would look like on the Pro.
Wish we got to see what a Driveclub 2 or new Motorstorm would look like on the Pro.
Um, PC bro.
It's going to look ridiculous
FukuDaruma
Member
Sony closed Evolution down for good, and most people moved on to Codemasters, so I wouldn't bet on any continuity of the game. It seems like a waste of talent and technology. That engine is amazing.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
icecold1983
Member
Makes me sad
Did sony own their engine tech or are they able to build on it at codemasters?
Hope they dont use the ego engine
Inf3cted_b3ast
Member
Sony owns the engine.
ResidentDante
Member
You're tripping in your own arguments here. These factors you list have been neglected to hit that framerate that Forza is so famous for having so stable. I don't give shit about real-time day/night cycles if the game is falling down to 40-50 fps a lot. Hopefully GTS can keep focus on delivering a super stable framerate in the final product and go ape shit over details that shouldn't be prioritised.
Sebmugi
Member
Pretty photo shoot noobcarft ^^ They are used to do well plastic rendering in forza 
In any case it looks fun the tracks at the Wipeout
To answer several, it seems that in the beta of GTS there are deformations of the tires but on the other hand there is apparently no dirt on the windshield or the bodywork.
The reflections of the windscreen we find them on all the windows of the cars, on the sides or behind it seems to me ..
It is subtle as deformation
credit too l2ounD
In any case it looks fun the tracks at the Wipeout
To answer several, it seems that in the beta of GTS there are deformations of the tires but on the other hand there is apparently no dirt on the windshield or the bodywork.
The reflections of the windscreen we find them on all the windows of the cars, on the sides or behind it seems to me ..
It is subtle as deformation
credit too l2ounD
Can't wait to get off work and get into this nghhhh
Veeeeeeeeeeeeery subtle.
I can't tell if the side walls are actually deforming, or if it's just the camber changing with the shift in momentum. Without photo mode it might be hard to tell. Are there any cars in the beta with bigger tires (and smaller rims?)It is subtle as deformation
credit too l2ounD
It's ridiculous. What cooldawn says is that we will never know if a game has a locked and stable framerate in any console game unless we have every second of a game tested.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
so planted
That's not even the real issue imo. It's that he acts like the lack of that evidence is proof that the drops exist. He states matter-of-factly that FM7 won't be 60fps, then cited "history" as why it won't.
drotahorror
Member
Except headlights don't cast shadows. Kind of kills it for me. Even on PC where it should have been possible, nope.
TBiddy
Member
There's so many things you can critizise about FM5/6 - and he chooses the one thing, that they actually nail. I don't get it.
Sebmugi
Member
I guess that view the speed of the car and the type of tire "sport" it must look like this in reality
After it is on that there and more like..
TylerDurden4321
Member
It looks underdone... like a lot of tire pressure and not nearly going to the limit in that corner.
Look at this Maserati on a performance road tire (not yet "track day tire"):
thelastword
Banned
Never seen a racer that's so properly weighted and accurately simulates a car being driven on a track like GT. It looks so solid under scrutiny, nothing floaty about it, great physics. The other would be driveclub...but here in GTS, the way the cars bounce over road undulations realistically, the way they bump over curbs, even the way it kicks dust/sand from the outskirts of a track, the attention to detail and immersion of realism is just sublime....
Similar threads
- Poll