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[c0de]

Sorry about the terrible crop, I meant, they are both very similar low poly models:

Edit: I forgot to expand the images when cropping XD

But the tires in GTS are definitely better shaded though, perhaps that's why it's harder to spot the edges.

Perfectly round.

 

[Septic360]

Do Forza 7 and GTS feature the same maximum number of cars on track at once?

 

[potatohead]

I want to see more pcars2 versus gts

I don't think the others are as close. When I see those max details pcars2 shots I think that is competitive with gts

The rain in pcars2 doesn't look super amazing but not even sure if gts has rain yet

 

[Tripolygon]

Sorry about the terrible crop, I meant, they are both very similar low poly models:

Edit: I forgot to expand the images when cropping XD

But the tires in GTS are definitely better shaded though, perhaps that's why it's harder to spot the edges.

Your crop is fine. A good shader can hide a lot of things including edges which is less noticable than the PCars screenshot. Even the barrier in front of the tires shows that as well.

 

[rodrigolfp]

So Gameplay is not replay with Dof and moblur off ?

Didn't say that you are wrong. I said:

Gameplay = replay without DoF and MB.
Gameplay =/= replay with DoF and MB.

 

[bombshell]

Not for an actual race. There are some career events where you're passing cars, so they're simplified "pedestrian" traffic that top out at 30.

(still cool though)

The endurance race in the GTS demo had 30.

Do Forza 7 and GTS feature the same maximum number of cars on track at once?

GTS features more.

 

[Gestault]

The endurance race in the GTS demo had 30.

Are you sure it wasn't the 30 laps and 24 cars? I did it twice, and that was what I remembered. Having X/30 for laps on screen could have been confusing.

You know what, I think you're right. Anyone still have a screen-cap?

 

[ShapeGSX]

Do Forza 7 and GTS feature the same maximum number of cars on track at once?

Who cares? Tire wall poly count is what's important!

 

[VMAN01]

Although Forza 7 (XBX, PC) and PCars2 output higher resolutions and textures etc, I feel that GTS still looks the most natural due to its HDR implementation. The lighting is just beautiful in GTS.

 

[PackAPunchedMick]

I've posted some embarrassing shit in this thread in my time but the tire wall discussion is fucking pathetic.

 

[Septic360]

The endurance race in the GTS demo had 30.



GTS features more.

Surely this is a massive point in favour of GTS then? The fact that its drawing more shiz no? I'm confused about this obsession for tirewalls and the 3d-ness of far away buildings when we are ignoring some rather crucial factors here lmao

 

[bombshell]

Are you sure it wasn't the 30 laps and 24 cars? I did it twice, and that was what I remembered. Having X/30 for laps on screen could have been confusing.

You know what, I think you're right. Anyone still have a screen-cap?

https://youtu.be/qYepfdSg37E?t=3m20s

 

[dr guildo]

Didn't say that you are wrong. I said:

Gameplay = replay without DoF and MB.
Gameplay =/= replay with DoF and MB.

Did you check the Stillmatic's comparison, can you identify the alised zone in gameplay shot compared to the cleaner zone in replay shot, please ?

 

[rashbeep]

I want to see more pcars2 versus gts

I don't think the others are as close. When I see those max details pcars2 shots I think that is competitive with gts

The rain in pcars2 doesn't look super amazing but not even sure if gts has rain yet

No it's gt:s and forza when talking 60fps racers. Pcars2 takes nice screens, but is more inconsistent than the rest in race.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I've posted some embarrassing shit in this thread in my time but the tire wall discussion is fucking pathetic.

Well, tire wall is a part of the graphics on the games just like anything you can see in the screen?

 

[KageMaru]

No it's gt:s and forza when talking 60fps racers. Pcars2 takes nice screens, but is more inconsistent than the rest in race.

I think PC2 is definitely competitive on the PC and possibly the Pro, but the framerate and resolution is sacrificed too much on the base consoles for them to be considered.

 

[onQ123]

You'd think onq would have learned his lesson by now

Yes I learned my lesson & I never seen that the police station appear to be uneven with the ground

 

[Facundo_Lopez]

For what it’s worth, I think that forza 7 accomplishes outstanding results considering the limitations of the Xbox One.
But GTS, because of the PBR and HDR implementation, it’s on another level.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Did you check the Stillmatic's comparison, can you identify the alised zone in gameplay shot compared to the cleaner zone in replay shot, please ?

I can see aliasing there, but in some of your shots not much. Here for example DoF and/or MB is/are hiding/messing with the sharpness of almost everything but the car in the center:

Yes I learned my lesson & I never seen that the police station appear to be uneven with the ground

I can take some shots with almost whatever FoV you want to be more or less happy when i got home. Just wait.

 

[AbandonedTrolley]

https://youtu.be/qYepfdSg37E?t=3m20s

So yeah position 20 of 30 thought I'd seen it somewhere.

 

[lynux3]

https://youtu.be/qYepfdSg37E?t=3m20s

This is insane. This dude is pretty damn good.

 

[Mascot]

The BEST thing about racing on the PC is playing in VR.

Amen, brother.

 

[onQ123]

I can take some shots with almost whatever FoV you want to be more or less happy when i got home. Just wait.

It has nothing to do with FoV the police station is on a different hill in real life.

 

[rodrigolfp]

https://youtu.be/qYepfdSg37E?t=3m20s

I think endurance may dynamically load new cars depending on you position, meaning there are not 30 cars at same time on the track. If I am wrong, it is even more points to GTS.

It has nothing to do with FoV the police station is on a different hill in real life.

I was talking about the inclination, but good that you understood about the level of the track

 

[drotahorror]

Can you adjust the camera at all in GTS? I usually play with the dash cam but it was awful in the demo. I didn't do much menu looking to change it though.

 

[KRaZyAmmo]

Can you adjust the camera at all in GTS? I usually play with the dash cam but it was awful in the demo. I didn't do much menu looking to change it though.

You can in fact adjust camera i GT:S. You can change the height and forward/backward placement of the driver in cockpit view. You also can adjust the sway and sensitivity of the camera in chase view.

It was in the advanced options when you pause the race.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Yes I learned my lesson & I never seen that the police station appear to be uneven with the ground

You DO realise it's being viewed from a cambered, hilly road, right? Buildings don't lean with the road, so when the road goes down, it looks like the building is cutting into it.

 

[dr guildo]

I want to see more pcars2 versus gts

I don't think the others are as close. When I see those max details pcars2 shots I think that is competitive with gts

The rain in pcars2 doesn't look super amazing but not even sure if gts has rain yet

...

 

[dr guildo]

I can see aliasing there, but in some of your shots not much. Here for example DoF and/or MB is/are hiding/messing with the sharpness of almost everything but the car in the center:





I can take some shots with almost whatever FoV you want to be more or less happy when i got home. Just wait.

Why can't you take the stillmatic case to make your point ?
Are you cherry picking ?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Why can't you take the stillmatic case to make your point ?
Are you cherry picking ?

For that case, they can look the same, for others they may not. That is why I trust only non replay stuff.

 

[onQ123]

You DO realise it's being viewed from a cambered, hilly road, right? Buildings don't lean with the road, so when the road goes down, it looks like the building is cutting into it.

And you do understand that this is from a view looking up the hill that's on the road & that it look this way because it's on a different hill? Y'all still looking for a fight even though I showed what I was talking about pages ago.

 

[pottuvoi]

Sorry about the terrible crop, I meant, they are both very similar low poly models:

Edit: I forgot to expand the images when cropping XD

But the tires in GTS are definitely better shaded though, perhaps that's why it's harder to spot the edges.

Not really surprise as developers try to hit polygon size of ~10pixel as shading efficiency drops with too small polygons.

 

[KageMaru]

...

Awesome shots. I really should get PC2 when 8 get the funds. What specs are you running this on?

And you do understand that this is from a view looking up the hill that's on the road & that it look this way because it's on a different hill? Y'all still looking for a fight even though I showed what I was talking about pages ago.

We realized all this from the beginning. In fact I think I eluded to exactly this in my first response to you. This is why your original post is as stupid as it is. No one is looking for a fight, you have a handful of people telling you that you're original posts weren't making sense because they weren't making sense.

It really isn't hard to understand.

 

[onQ123]

Awesome shots. I really should get PC2 when 8 get the funds. What specs are you running this on?



We realized all this from the beginning. In fact I think I eluded to exactly this in my first response to you. This is why your original post is as stupid as it is. No one is looking for a fight, you have a handful of people telling you that you're original posts weren't making sense because they weren't making sense.

It really isn't hard to understand.

You're basically just running your mouth to be running your mouth. I seen the police station appear to be uneven with the ground around it & ask was it sinking into the ground & people jumped in saying that it was the FoV & so on & someone also posted a image from F1 that showed that it actually does go lower & I looked at the real life photos & it was confirmed that the police station is on a different hill from the road that the car was on. The rest was pointless post trying to argue with me as if I said something that I never said.

 

[Caddle]

For what it’s worth, I think that forza 7 accomplishes outstanding results considering the limitations of the Xbox One.
But GTS, because of the PBR and HDR implementation, it’s on another level.

Now we wait to see how it looks on the xb1x.

 

[BBQ_of_DOOM]

Now we wait to see how it looks on the xb1x.

Can't we already see that on PC?

 

[Fess]

Forza Motorsport 7, PC
https://youtu.be/TkCWoGaLhK0?t=10s

Project Cars 2, PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi0ZzFRs_F8

Both are really well done in the cockpit view, the immersion is fantastic, from what I've seen PC2 does more with subtle camera movements and interior/exterior vibrations but Forza is really great too. The GTS demo leave a lot to be desired but earlier videos showed no camera shake at all and the demo at least had the basics like movements when crashing and driving over bigger bumps etc, so we'll just have to see how the full version is, hopefully the extreme attention to detail shows itself here too.

 

[pixelbox]

You're basically just running your mouth to be running your mouth. I seen the police station appear to be uneven with the ground around it & ask was it sinking into the ground & people jumped in saying that it was the FoV & so on & someone also posted a image from F1 that showed that it actually does go lower & I looked at the real life photos & it was confirmed that the police station is on a different hill from the road that the car was on. The rest was pointless post trying to argue with me as if I said something that I never said.

Always getting into trouble

 

[rodrigolfp]

For "everyone" "happyness"(PC2):

 

[cakely]

This thread. Someone call the police! Never mind, we can just jump the fence, the police station is right there.

 

[shandy706]

For "everyone" "happyness":

Really rough looking track and buildings.

Which game is that?

 

[c0de]

Really rough looking track and buildings.

Which game is that?

Forza

Spoiler

2

.

 

[onQ123]

For "everyone" "happyness":

Never mind the fact that there is steps that go down from ground level to the entry right?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Really rough looking track and buildings.

Which game is that?

Edited.

 

[Naudyboy16]

Forza

Spoiler

2

.

Pretty sure this is Project Cars 2

 

[DD]

Speaking of buildings...

Spoiler

Guess the game.

 

[freefornow]

Speaking of buildings...

Spoiler

Guess the game.

Too easy. PGR4
But thanks for the happy memories.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

Third one gives it away. I can hear the clicking sound of the Kudos counter as I look at those

 

[Inf3cted_b3ast]

GTS vs Raceroom M6 GT3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4o1RKWt528
I would say RR wins in the sound department but GTS isn't that bad especially in cockpit view.

 

[DD]

Third one gives it away. I can hear the clicking sound of the Kudos counter as I look at those

Too easy. PGR4
But thanks for the happy memories.

Hehehe, you're welcome. I can post if there's interest.