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Next-gen Racing Graphics Face-off | (Next-gen means current-gen)
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I think you are alone there.
Summer Haze
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This thread is a graphics face-off thread. Your post is irrelevant.
Handy Fake
Member
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
gundamkyoukai
Member
GT's photo mode thread is full of bullshots that look way better than the game.
It easy to make most racing games look realistic in bullshots in this day and age especially without weather .
I might be misreading his post but he is not claiming that even GT 5/6 looks better than DC, is he? Or does he mean GT looks more natural and realistic? Either way, I can't agree with neither statements.
Summer Haze
Banned
I've questioned if what I was seeing was real or not multiple times, both with images and gameplay. It's the most realistic looking racer by far, imo, and I don't just mean in terms of graphics and effects. I don't think I've ever seen a game do overcast weather better than DC. The lighting model is unmatched.
I think soft modeled physics can fall under the graphics umbrella, looks more realistic to me than bouncing a lambo off walls without a scratch, might as well compare edited still photos of only corridor games otherwise,.. oh wait.
Summer Haze
Banned
I don't think you'll last long here.
DC photomode looks way better than the game too.
CaptainOblivious
Banned
DC is pretty ugly. The only time it looks good to me is when everything is wet. It seems to hide the poor IQ and low quality textures better when wet.
I do not think any game comes anywhere close to matching real life.
I do not think any game comes anywhere close to matching real life.
It's all subjective, to me DC looks gamey and I can easily tell it's a game from the screenshots.
Summer Haze
Banned
It really doesn't:
In-game:
Photo-mode (full post processing):
In-game:
Photo-mode:
Photo-mode shots are a little cleaner, no doubt. But photo-mode visuals being "way better" than in-game visuals simply isn't true.
If it weren't for the raindrops and night shot, this looks a lot like Forza 4.
gundamkyoukai
Member
No it does not.
In fact certain pics in the DC thread don't have processing because you can't see the weather effects if you do .
Also what make DC look so good is seeing in motion and weather effect just adds to that .
So what is the difference with GT's photo mode exactly? Both turn up AA and fix the shitty shadows.
I want your copy of Forza 4, lol.
Summer Haze
Banned
I fail to see how GT is relevant. I was responding solely to your claim that DC's visuals look "way better" in photo-mode than they do in-game. I think you may have me mixed up with the other guy who was talking about GT.
gundamkyoukai
Member
This is far from the truth when it comes to gameplay .
For eg PCars have 200k to 300k per car on max setting ( on consoles i think down to 60 or 70k) and DC has 250k in gameplay .
Forza and GT have a higher polygon count but that during showroom or photo mode etc etc .
I'm not too sure what the differences with other games photomodes are... but Forza and GT looks like completely different games (at least a generation removed) once the photomodes are done with them. Not comparable to Driveclub's at all imo.
It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about really, that doesn't make any sense.
I specifically said I didn't know what I'm talking about.
I do however know what games look like on my screen in comparison to photomode, and Driveclub easily has the least discrepancy between them.
eso76
Member
Yeah, well..
I don't know what it is about Pcars.
I don't have the game, I always see pics like these posted which trick me into going to YT and searching for vids of more recent builds, expecting to be blown away.
But i always leave unimpressed.
Now yeah, these being from angles you can't play from is understandable (if you want to show dem cars, gameplay perspectives are not ideal, most screens in this thread are the same, obviously) but i haven't seen, say, a replay of a race looking anywhere remotely close to those screens.
So, ok, game can look absolutely incredible in screens, but can someone post a vid showing this kind of visual realism in motion ?
Not saying game x looks better or worse than game y here, just honestly curious to see what the game can look like, at its best, in motion.
Lys Skygge
Member
Doesn't GT use higher poly cars and downsampling in photomode? DC just adds a bit of AA. There is no downampling in DC and the cars in photomode are the same as gameplay.
gundamkyoukai
Member
One of the biggest difference is that photo mode from GT and Forza is used during replays which is something DC does not have.
In fact GT half it's frame rate in replay mode so it can look better .
Panoramic from H2.
This was during a light rain shower with the sun breaking through the clouds.
Just talking car models/reflections wise.
This was during a light rain shower with the sun breaking through the clouds.
Just talking car models/reflections wise.
Well FH2 can kick out into photomode during a race at the touch of a button. It doesn't prevent the resulting photo looking impossibly better than game itself.
We can cherry pick bad shots for all of the games in this thread all day everyday.
I can choose to only post the pics below and say FH2 actually looks this bland and/or blurry trying to imply that's how the game looks all the time, but that wouldn't be true would it?
Or say this is actually how bad pCars textures look but that also wouldn't be true right?
And also say yup, Forza 5 actually looks like this, but the game never looks this bad most of the time does it?
I think you could have at least chosen some much better in-game shots, which there are actually an abundance of, and not stoop to that level.
But here are some gameplay shots I took way before DC's photomode update even hit.
And I've already given examples of the visual differences between a gameplay grab vs. what photomode does.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=145289422&postcount=2382
Massively improved image quality? Depends on how much aliasing there was on screen in the first place where the 5 types of AA used wasn't able to be applied on certain objects or light highlights. From my experience the AA in-game is rather great most of the time.
in-game
photomode
Hands down the best looking game I've ever played. Sure. Other racing games may have better models, better textures, but the lighting in DC is just something else. The colors of the sky in Chile, just before sunrise....it's just incredible.
I actually agree with this. There's something about DC art direction that just doesn't make it look that lifelike. While GT Photomode can, at times, do a better job at tricking you into thinking it's real.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It's hard to be trick when it has a GT mark at the top lol .
Still i get your point but the car in that pic don't look that good at full size.
Windom Earle
Member
Ehh, lol, thanks for keeping this thread alive dude. Still haven't seen gameplay shots or footage of other titles coming close to DC. Basically this:
OsirisBlack
Banned
This is before the weather update and before photomode was added. Just me goofing around doing some time trial stuff. The game looked great then and it looks absolutely amazing now. Even with crappy share compression it looks great.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204704257064300&saved
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10204704257064300&saved
I don't know what's going on with people in this thread ... it's like an army of crazy people posting.
I was going to quote the shit posts from the last pages, but they were so many, and so stupid, that I actually just gave up and laugh. This is too much nonsense for me.
DidntKnowJack
Member
I guess they're happy that the GT photomode is better at the art of deception.
Ok, if that's something you value...
DirgeExtinction
Member
Look at post below. Basically, both GT and Forza swap out the in game car model for a higher quality version. That, and it supersamples.
Dat grass.
They are allowed to dream.
This thread is sad, here's some stuff other devs are doing
Dear sir, what game is this one?
Salute
TheAdmiester
Member
Wreckfest/Next Car Game.
Indeed. Is why I roll my eyes when I see people posting how DC is the best looking game ever, because it clearly isn't in several areas. It does beat other racing games out there though.
GAFDooMsDaY
Banned
DC by far! Certain camera angles (hood view, street view, and some behind the steering wheel views are incredible)
All this talk about DC environments and yet you can't interact with any of it. It's like the car and the backdrops are on different planes.DC looks very good, but fh2 gives it a run. Nothing like plowing through the fields in the early morning with the sun rising, rain, and dust kicking up in cockpit view. Also the driver is reflected onto the dash.
Just talking car models/reflections wise.
Your copy of Forza 4 looks a LOT like my copy of Forza 5....
PseudoKirby
Banned
that a 240sx in the forza 5 shot?
TheAdmiester
Member
Which Forza 5 shot?
Windom Earle
Member
I'd rather do that in GTA5 which does it better anyway. I like my racing games being about actual racing.
Your copy of Forza 4 looks a LOT like my copy of Forza 5....
...but that is Forza 4...
This thread is sad, here's some stuff other devs are doing
Dear sir, what game is this one?
Salute
Can't wait to install that game...and the rest of the stuff I bought in the Steam sale.
My 980 just arrived a little bit ago!!
But mowing down corn crops with million dollar supercars is next gen. PCars, GT and other track racing titles are now obsolete.
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