PokéKong;34843854 said:
All I get from this post is you're one of those Smasher hardcore elitists from communities who establish strict standards and definitions for terms which most regular people couldn't care less about but you impose upon them anyway.
PK Flash and Ice are the same move. Giving it a different name with altered appearance and speed and range makes it a different move? Guess Ganondorf was never a clone then. I ask again what the definition of a clone is besides stat differences alone.
They obviously started with Ness and made alterations until calling it good, a talented Smash modder probably could've done it. Now I would call that a clone, but if using that word makes some people's skin crawl I'll find another, but the point is they could've and should do more to to give him more of a unique play style in my opinion. I mean he retains moves from Ness despite never actually using them in his original game, that's nearly disrespectful to the source material.
I'm not talkin' about stat differences, or something a "hardcore elitist," would notice. I'm not talking about frame data or stats or speeds or anytning.
I'm talking about Ness uses yo-yos when Lucas uses PK energy, Ness does a thunder shove when Lucas does PK kicks, Ness does a back kick when Lucas does a flip attack, Ness does a stomp when Lucas does a triple PK kick, Ness does a roundhouse when Lucas does a PK swipe with his arm, Ness does a headbutt while Lucas does a bicycle kick...
It does depend on the definition of "clone," but this isn't Young Link, Ganondorf, Roy, Pichu, Dr. Mario & Falco in Melee or Luigi from 64. Those are the kind of clones that were lazy, imo. If, for some reason or another you have to have "cloning," in your game, do it like Falco at the least and Wolf at it's best.