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NFL 2011 Week 8 |OT| Tim Tebow
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ok? You're wrong but ok. I cant really take anything you say seriously since you believe Schaub just throws balls up to Dre. Even though he's been out for 4.75 games now. Nothing personal, just pretty obvious you haven't watched any of their games.eznark said:
At this point last year they were last or second to last in total defense, pass defense, take aways, third downs, red zone efficiency. This year they are top 6 in every category that matters, points, third downs, takeaways.
The most telling stat: yesterday the Texans scored 24 points, last year that would have been good enough to win them just 2 games.
Their schedule gets easier, but it was tougher in the beginning, big fucking deal you play who you play.
captive said:
In what other game were you impressed with their defense? I've watched parts or all of every Texans game and been impressed exactly one time, coincidentally the only time they were actually impressive. Shocking! I didn't say they weren't a good defense, they have Watt so they surely are!, just that they haven't played great in any game but one.
As to the Johnson comment, that was a discussion of careers, not a season and his inability to read a defense beyond first read. Having that one great receiver gives him and Stafford (and Cam) a great, useful out when the first read isn't open...but I think it may have (will) stunt their growth at the position.
Sunday at 4.
cajunator said:
Really? They seem about as low-key and under the radar as the last remaining undefeated team can be.
Also, the only reason they'll eventually suffer an "upset" (and they will) is because they are so heavily favored every single week. I won't be surprised when they lose, but I get the feeling that whenever it happens it's going to be a shocker for the "analysts"
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Would anyone be shocked if they lost in the division? When was the last time anyone swept the NFC north?meadowrag said:
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Glad we were able to put away the Jags. From what I heard, it was closer than it should have but glad we got the W.
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10 years from now Aaron Rodgers will be remembered as another Jim McMahon.
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Perhaps I'm having a harder time coming to grips with a "post-Ward" receiving core, but I can't shake the thought that Hines would probably still be the guy I'd want to throw it to in clutch situations before Brown...especially before Sanders. The Young Money are awesome, and will be a dangerous crew for many years to come assuming they stick together, but Ward just has an intangible to him that still leaves him in the line-up for me.bionic77 said:
Let's just be hopeful that Mendenhall keeps playing like he has. When he hesitates at the line, he gets hit for a loss EVERY time. When he jumps through the pile, even when it's not there...he gets the 3-4 yards that we need on those plays...and he's been breaking away the past couple of weeks because he's just going for it. I think it has a lot more to do with Mendenhall and less to do with the O-line improving to create those holes...he just never attacked confidently until the past couple of weeks. Sitting on the sidelines and watching Redman/Moore play probably showed him that more than anything.
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eznark said:
You say that now but you will change your tune when Flacco wins at least 2 SBs which is almost a given.
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eznark said:
lol nice that was quick
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bionic77 said:
Yep, the old guys keep going out and the young guys keep stepping up. But they'll need Woodley next week unless Harrison defies the odds and comes back. This Chris Carter kid looks decent, but I doubt he'll be ready for a full time replacement of Woodley. Timmons on the other hand....man, he gets man handled if and when he gets into the backfield. He's a question mark and they don't really have anyone else to get pressure.
NFL announces that Jets/Patriots in Week 10 will not be flexed:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-bears-in-week-10-jets-patriots-stays-on-nbc/
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Im going to the Viking Packer game at Lambeau on Monday night. (My packer fan roommate's family has season tickets.)
I just need to grab a Ponder Jersey so I can witness the upset in style.
I just need to grab a Ponder Jersey so I can witness the upset in style.
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RBH said:
Well no shit.
RBH said:
Yeah! More spotlight for the Bears to make fools of themselves again.
Bears season rides on the next 3 games: @PHI, DET, SD. If they can go at least 2-1, I think they have some shot at wildcard, but I could easily see the team going 0-3.
Looks like Bears will wear their orange jerseys for that game too.
I was impressed with the defense for 3 quarters against the saints, 4th quarter not so much. I was impressed they made henne look like dog shit after he threw for 400+ against the pats, henne then went on to have a couple more 300+ yard passing days before getting hurt. They shut down Mcfadden, they shut down MJD,(both of whom were top of the league in rushing when they played them) they shut down ray rice for most of the game.eznark said:
Coming from where they came from last year with no off season and to sustain it while suffering injuries, i've been impressed with them in every game. The reasons they lost the Ravens and Raiders game were because of the offense, not the defense. The only loss I would place squarely on the defense is the Saints game, since they blew a 9 point lead in the 4th then the offense got them another lead and they blew that one too. They didn't seem to have an answer when the Saints went 5 wide and no huddle.
But you're wrong, he can read a defense just fine. If all he does is throw to Johnson how come he doesn't have more TDs? Because he gets the ball to Walter, Owen, and Dreesen too. It's just an inaccurate statement.
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Slo said:
Yeah I hear its a very friendly environment. Hopefully I can find a reasonably priced Ponder Jersey. If not I'll just take the trusty Harvin.
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Bowser said:
Ugh they only have Peterson and Favre Jerseys.
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BannedEpisode said:
Yeah, the jersey selection is lacking, but since I don't have any jerseys, figured this would be a good time to pick one up. We only had Delhomme (lol) and Smith jerseys, but at least Smith is beasting. I have a Newton Jersey t-shirt in black so went with the Smith in Panther Blue.
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Bowser said:
I mean, theres nothing wrong with a Peterson jersey. Its AP.
Its just everyone and their mother has a Peterson jersey. That is a darn good deal though, I might have to bite anyway.
captive said:
I didn't say all he does is throw to Johnson at any point in this or any other discussion. I said if the first read isn't open, then he can throw to Johnson. Like other young quarterbacks currently playing, he struggles when forced to go through read progression. Come to the line, look at the defense (some teams put a guy in motion to help the read), decide who the ball is going to.
It's difficult to point to via stats, it requires watching games/film. His targets are almost always decided pre-snap. Some of that is a result of the team he came up with, that offensive line was so bad they needed to build a passing game that could operate effectively in 0 time. Having an over the top safety valve also makes this a legitimate option. That he was so effective in doing so is one of the reasons I respect Kubiak as much as I do.
Basically what a number of teams have done is adopted the Tedford style to the pro game. It limits the need for the quarterback to read and react once the play is in motion. It can be fantastically effective but I also feel that it hinders the natural growth of the quarterback. It removes the learning/growing process and instead turns the quarterback into an unthinking, non-responsive automaton.
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He'll be jumping several spots after next Sunday.jakncoke said:
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It's possible for Miami and Indianapolis to win at least 3 games before the season is over, right? Right?
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When is the last time you remember Hines making a big catch dude? It has been years!RubxQub said:
I love him, but everyone is afraid to say that he is washed up as a receiver. That doesn't change the fact that he was one of the best Steelers receivers of all time, but nothing lasts forever.
Timmons has been a huge disappointment. He used to be decent in blitz packages, but he was amazing at getting after running backs. This year you never notice him on the field anymore.Spectral Glider said:
Our pass defense has been surprisingly good so far. Big test for us next week will be our run defense against Rice. That midget has been carrying Flacco's worthless ass every since he got there.
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What do you think: Ravens or Steelers on Sunday night?BaltimoreLarry said:
I'm almost certain that Suggs is going to break through more than a few times and get to Ben...but I've got a pretty good feeling that it's going to be a much more competitive game this time around.
For me it's a coin flip who's going to walk away with the W.
This is going to be my first Steelers game ever in person, and it should be a crazy one.
Steelers by 30.RubxQub said:
Game will be over by the middle of the 3rd quarter when Flacco is put on the elite qb bench and Ray Lewis takes a turn at quarterback.
Great game to go to. Only bad part is the injuries to defense, but it doesn't take a full squad to slow down Flacco and co.
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