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NFL 2011 Week 8 |OT| Tim Tebow

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levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
squicken said:
He got benched. He took a ton of hits and looked bad quite frequently. 9TDs and 18INTs


and he made some nice deep throws, had a couple of great games, set a single game record for a rookie, again, he didn't look hopeless.
 

squicken

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levious said:
and he made some nice deep throws, had a couple of great games, set a single game record for a rookie, again, he didn't look hopeless.

Come on man! That's hardly a metric indicative of a HoF career. Sam Bradford looked just as good if not better than either Aikman or Manning, and he didn't have Harrison or Irvin.

Sam isn't going to the HoF
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
I didn't watch every Rams game for sure, but I haven't seen anything at all impressive from Bradford, not even what I would call a flash of brilliance or something.

Not looking hopeless isn't an indicator of future greatness, just saying that he looked like he was going to be a productive starter at the least.
 

bionic77

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I agree with levious.

You can kind of tell watching someone that they are going to be at least an NFL caliber qb.

I knew within 10 minutes of Kolb's first game that he was a bum. I knew by Ben's 3rd game that he was great. I knew by the AFC Championship that Brady was a servant of Satan.

Those initial impressions are not always correct, but more often than not they are. I don't buy this crap about needed years to develop when most NFL careers don't even last that long.
 
darkside31337 said:
Patriots released Leigh Bodden today according to PFT.

I'm really confused. Unless they've traded for Revis, I don't really understand this move. He must be seriously injured or something.

With McCourty playing like shit and Dowling being made of glass, he was our best corner.
 

Bowser

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Plenty of contending teams could use Bodden...I could definitely see him pass through waivers and then sign with the Saints or Cowboys

Dutch Patriot said:
I'm really confused. Unless they've traded for Revis, I don't really understand this move. He must be seriously injured or something.

Apparently not:

Bodden was in the second season of a four-year, $22 million contract. Per the source, the player and the team decided that the relationship wasn’t working out as planned, and that it was time to move on. He appeared in five games with one start this season.
 

bionic77

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Dutch Patriot said:
I'm really confused. Unless they've traded for Revis, I don't really understand this move. He must be seriously injured or something.

With McCourty playing like shit and Dowling being made of glass, he was our best corner.
They are waving the white flag and giving up Sunday's game and the 1 seed to the Steelers.

It makes perfect sense to me.
 

MechDX

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Bowser said:
Plenty of contending teams could use Bodden...I could definitely see him pass through waivers and then sign with the Saints or Cowboys



Apparently not:


His salary is only a 2 million hit on the cap per PFT. Fits nicely in the room the Texans have.

Love to see him on the other side of JoJo.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
bionic77 said:
I agree with levious.

You can kind of tell watching someone that they are going to be at least an NFL caliber qb.

I knew within 10 minutes of Kolb's first game that he was a bum. I knew by Ben's 3rd game that he was great. I knew by the AFC Championship that Brady was a servant of Satan.

Those initial impressions are not always correct, but more often than not they are. I don't buy this crap about needed years to develop when most NFL careers don't even last that long.

What did you think of Drew Brees? Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Not everybody has the same career trajectory. Guys games get better and get worse as time goes along and it doesn't fit some kind of mold.
 

bionic77

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darkside31337 said:
What did you think of Drew Brees? Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Not everybody has the same career trajectory. Guys games get better and get worse as time goes along and it doesn't fit some kind of mold.
Never saw enough of either guy early on to make any kind of educated guess.

The three things I can judge right away are mobility, throwing motion (most importantly timing of release) and accuracy. Most guys who are accurate are accurate from day one. Same with mobility and guys with a quick trigger. The things you can't evaluate are blitz pickup, knowledge of the offense, and leadership. But if you don't have two of the three physical criteria I mentioned then I don't see how you are ever going to be a great qb.
 

squicken

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Sexy Rexy, JP Losman, and Trent Edwards had moments of brillance their rookie years. What you fellas got is a case of confirmation bias.
 
bionic77 said:
They are waving the white flag and giving up Sunday's game and the 1 seed to the Steelers.

It makes perfect sense to me.

Not really, this just means that Uggman needs to score 40 point instead of 30.

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bionic77

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Dutch Patriot said:
Not really, this just means that Uggman needs to score 40 point instead of 30.

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Mike Wallace is going to run wild on your pathetic secondary.

If Hines Ward stays out of the game I expect to drop 60+ points and cause Bellicheat to consider retirement.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
that taunting the Steelers crowd then spike was pretty brutal, what an awesome rivalry.
 

bionic77

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levious said:
that taunting the Steelers crowd then spike was pretty brutal, what an awesome rivalry.
You pervert.

It has been torture this decade not a rivalry. If you get off on that then you need to see a doctor. Ben is like 2-4 or 2-5 against them. And one of those victories came against Cassel.

That is the past though. Fuck the Patriots and feel pity for whichever worthless Pats fan I made an avatar bet with!
 
I realized something yesterday TexansGaf....I won't be able to watch the game between the Jags. :( I'll be out of town in Orlando celebrating my anniversary. I guess I'll have to keep updates with the ESPN app.
 
bionic77 said:
You pervert.

It has been torture this decade not a rivalry. If you get off on that then you need to see a doctor. Ben is like 2-4 or 2-5 against them. And one of those victories came against Cassel.

That is the past though. Fuck the Patriots and feel pity for whichever worthless Pats fan I made an avatar bet with!

That sucks that we wont get to see your av after Sunday.
 
bionic77 said:
Mike Wallace is going to run wild on your pathetic secondary.

If Hines Ward stays out of the game I expect to drop 60+ points and cause Bellicheat to consider retirement.

They won't even score 30.
 

bionic77

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yankeehater said:
That sucks that we wont get to see your av after Sunday.
Incorrect.

I am not going to change my avatar, not even to celebrate destroying the evil Pats and having the best record in the AFC.

Just like I won't change my avatar when Andy Reed finds a way to outchoke the Cowboys and Romo. Though speaking of not doing it the idea of a picture of Andy Reid when he tries to run the goal line offense or 2 minute drill is tempting...

Dutch Patriot said:
They won't even score 30.
Pats would win if they decided to stay balanced and run on us. But they won't. They are going to fall behind early and try and go in the spread and slang themselves to victory. Haynesworth will quit midway through the 2nd quarter and you will be left with no pass and no secondary and no deep threat to burn our decrepit defense. Ben will initially be confused by the lack of defenders in his face within 2 seconds, but he will adjust and dissect the Pats defense and rip out the black heart of that franchise on the way to a decisive victory.
 
bionic77 said:
Pats would win if they decided to stay balanced and run on us. But they won't. They are going to fall behind early and try and go in the spread and slang themselves to victory. Haynesworth will quit midway through the 2nd quarter and you will be left with no pass and no secondary and no deep threat to burn our decrepit defense. Ben will initially be confused by the lack of defenders in his face within 2 seconds, but he will adjust and dissect the Pats defense and rip out the black heart of that franchise on the way to a decisive victory.

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Never stop believing!
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Dutch Patriot said:
I thought I did, but can't find it. When I find it I will post it.


thanks, I've never been able to find the full clip (the replay part) on youtube, only the live clip that doesn't show him taunting before spiking.

So glad he cut his hair, I don't mind long hair, but he would constantly do that annoying push back his hair behind his ears thing. Looked like he had long hair for the first time in his life.
 

bionic77

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I would rather endure a million high res clips of Tebow's hairy nipples then suffer through any more of this disgusting Brady discussion.

Mods please try to bring back at least some element of civilization to this thread.
 

Milchjon

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Higher quality, just for you, bionic:

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Man, if GAF still allowed .gif-avatars, I'd make a bet just for this. Too bad.

Also, a reminder of the greatness of Lord Brady

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Bowser

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BTW, forgot to mention, thanks for cutting Butler Pats. The guy's started the last three (four?) games for us and hasn't had his name mentioned in the broadcast except for when he makes a run-support tackle, which is about as good as it gets for a CB. Really helped solidify our secondary (10th in Pass D IIRC).
 

LJ11

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Milchjon said:
Just watched some highlights of Kellen Moore. College football looks kinda weird :-/

Also, what's the advantage of taking the snap under center? Communication? Making the defense guess about running plays/play action?

Shotgun looks much more efficient and should allow for a better view of the field?

Run game is probably the main reason to go under center, you can't run block downhill out of shotgun. Inside zone running, iso runs, just won't work properly out of the gun. The back is either to the left or right, if you zone block it's going to be to the opposite side he's lined up on.

In the college game coaches have lined up the back behind in the QB in a shotgun set to get a downhill run game, also opens up the playaction/bootleg game as well. Combine that with a TE/H-back and you can get some I formation runs out of a 3 WR shotgun set.

College coaches can be very creative and innovative.
 

WedgeX

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Fun stats today on the Lions third down passing, courtesy of mlive.

Of the 95 third-down snaps Detroit has played this season, only 18 have required them to gain three or fewer yards. To put that in perspective, they've faced 24 third downs where they needed more than 10 yards.

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In third down situations, quarterback Matthew Stafford is 36-80 (45 percent), throwing for 467 yards, three touchdowns and two interceptions. He has also been sacked five times. That gives Stafford a passer rating of 66.0 on third down.

Comparing those figures to Stafford's numbers on non-third-down plays highlights the disparity. On those other plays he has completed 126-189 passes (66.7 percent), thrown 13 touchdowns, two interceptions, and is sporting a passer rating of 108.0.
 

Milchjon

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BaltimoreLarry said:
I like this alot.

Go Pats!!!

I hope you don't expect me to reciprocate the love. Ray Rice broke my heart in the 2009 playoffs, and I will hate him and your organization forever til the day I die.

You seem like a nice guy, though, nothing against you personally.
 
Bowser said:
BTW, forgot to mention, thanks for cutting Butler Pats. The guy's started the last three (four?) games for us and hasn't had his name mentioned in the broadcast except for when he makes a run-support tackle, which is about as good as it gets for a CB. Really helped solidify our secondary.

It's pretty weird to see how many former starters playing in the secondary for the Pats have been traded/cut this (pre-)season. Meriweather is stinking it up for Da Bears, Sanders is sitting on the bench in Atlanta, Page is sitting on the bench in Philly and Butler who's like you said playing in Carolina. I hope he plays good there, he showed some flashes his first year, but after that couldn't adjust to the system or something.
 

Milchjon

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Dutch Patriot said:
It's pretty weird to see how many former starters playing in the secondary for the Pats have been traded/cut this (pre-)season. Meriweather is stinking it up for Da Bears, Sanders is sitting on the bench in Atlanta, Page is sitting on the bench in Philly and Butler who's like you said playing in Carolina. I hope he plays good there, he showed some flashes his first year, but after that couldn't adjust to the system or something.

We'll just get rid of the Secondary altogether and play something I'd like to call Line Coverage. Put eleven fat and strong linemen on or close to the LOS, kinda like this:

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No one will be able to get by!!!
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
WedgeX said:
Fun stats today on the Lions third down passing, courtesy of mlive.

The stat that I found more troubling was the stat about how often they can't gain yards on 1st down when running. It's abysmal.
 
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