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[Doorman]

You know, every Bears and/or White Sox fan I've ever met is a massive douche. EVERY one of them. You're not helping that anecdotal evidence.

In semi-fairness to cuevas, even plenty of Lions fans make fun of Stafford and his history of injuries. With him potentially missing time again this week (although I don't personally expect him to miss the game), that anecdotal evidence doesn't exactly work in defense of his injury-prone moniker.

 

[red13th]

Best OP. Tebow is dreamy!

 

[The Frankman]

Dunno if it's been posted but the Fins have signed JP Losman.

Yes, and I also posted that someone on Miami (probably a QB) will not survive the game.

 

[minx]

You know, every Bears and/or White Sox fan I've ever met is a massive douche. EVERY one of them. You're not helping that anecdotal evidence.

Awww someone is butt hurt that their team's ship is sinking very fast.

 

[Futurevoid]

Update for Bills fans:

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
The new and unfortunate meaning of Lights Out: Bills placed LB Shawne Merriman on injured reserve.

Redskins also placed Chris Cooley on IR.

espn_nfceast ESPN Blogs NFC East
Redskins place TE Chris Cooley, RB Tim Hightower on injured reserve. Both officially out for the season.

 

[bionic77]

Supposedly Harrison is out for this week.

That is good news for the Steelers. Tammy won't know what to do with that much time in the pocket and by reverse psychology will throw to the ball to Steelers defenders.

 

[Buckethead]

Wilde's lapdog is so annoying.

 

[Plinko]

Awww someone is butt hurt that their team's ship is sinking very fast.

Yeah, I've been on the "my team is sinking fast" boat since the beginning of the season. I have no faith in this team to make the playoffs.

Nice try, though. Again, a Bears fan is living up to the anecdotal evidence.

I'm going to take shots at Bears fans every chance I get until Detroit loses to them in a couple weeks.

 

[Plinko]

In semi-fairness to cuevas, even plenty of Lions fans make fun of Stafford and his history of injuries. With him potentially missing time again this week (although I don't personally expect him to miss the game), that anecdotal evidence doesn't exactly work in defense of his injury-prone moniker.

No, it doesn't, and I've ripped on him for being injury-prone as well. He IS injury-prone as we've seen so far.

 

[beast786]

Random stats like this always felt a little pointless to me. Isn't it just as likely that we could find a bunch of QBs with comparable stat-lines to that who wound up busting out of the league a couple of years later?
I also still feel like if we'd been playing defenses that were on their toes just a little bit more, Stafford would have somewhere more along the lines of 10 interceptions rather than five. Quite a few balls have sailed over to DBs or linebackers that just flat-out dropped it and that's been skewing his impressive turnover numbers. He's been alright, but not stellar, and as Plinko said I think the pressure he's under with no running game and no blocking is causing him to regress.

Also, :jnc at T.O. getting absolutely snubbed by his workout invites.

You can use that with every single QB in this league, and it happens to all the QB including your rodgers,brees and brady. you can also make an argument that his receivers also dropped balls. Hence, it always average out at the end.

Bottom line is our schedule has been pretty tough. We played 6 of 7 teams with record of 500 or above. The kid is still very very young. He has so much to learn. Can you even remember a Lions QB with his skills and stats this early.

I cant even believe people want to bench him because he had 2 mediocre games. Even his mediocre games are better than anything we had in Detroit.

 

[beast786]

Awww someone is butt hurt that their team's ship is sinking very fast.

Sinking ship is still better than a sunk ship.

Lions 5-2
Bears 4-3

 

[squicken]

If your team had a playoff spot locked down, but it's seeding was still up in the air, and they played a division team in contention for Luck in Week 17, do you want your team to lose or win?

I imagine AFC East and AFC South fans haven't had a lot of fun having Brady and Manning lord over those divisions for 10 years. What price do you put on additional seeding, versus the prospect of having a team with an automatic 10 wins in your division for the next decade?

It will be easy, tough talk for NFCN and AFCN teams, but not for others. If the Texans can deny the Colts Luck, and the cost is a first round bye, you let the Colts get Luck?

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

You know, every Bears and/or White Sox fan I've ever met is a massive douche. EVERY one of them. You're not helping that anecdotal evidence.

Are you from Detroit? Shouldn't you have the spine to take a joke?

Sinking ship is still better than a sunk ship.

Lions 5-2
Bears 4-3

off-season avatar bet? Who is out of the race more at the end?

 

[789shadow]

Supposedly Harrison is out for this week.

That is good news for the Steelers. Tammy won't know what to do with that much time in the pocket and by reverse psychology will throw to the ball to Steelers defenders.

Woodley is basically Harrison now.

 

[bionic77]

Woodley is basically Harrison now.

It works better when they combine their pass rush at the same time.

That would have helped to slow down the Pats (and maybe even get in a few good hits).

 

[Nightz]

Wow, Merriman on IR again. Glad the Chargers got rid of him and replaced him with Larry English...

sdutChargers S.D. U-T Chargers
Larry English broke his foot again. Uh-oh. Team has not made move yet.

Great drafting AJ. Replace an injured bum with another oft-injured bum. English is almost Buster Davis status.

 

[RBH]

The Falcons will place Ovie Mughelli on injured reserve, ending the fullback’s season, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Mughelli injured his right knee during Sunday’s victory. Lions defensive back Louis Delmas hit Mughelli’s knee during a tackle in the fourth quarter following a 4-yard reception. Mughelli did not return after the injury and was on crutches following the game.

Mughelli had four receptions for 25 yards and two touchdowns this season. He had two carries for one yard.

The Falcons are expected to announce a roster move as a replacement for Mughelli.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcon...ed-knee-puts-falcons-mughelli-out-for-season/




FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Once I saw the replay of that hit, I knew he was done for the year.

 

[789shadow]

It works better when they combine their pass rush at the same time.

That would have helped to slow down the Pats (and maybe even get in a few good hits).

Except when Harrison was playing neither of them were doing anything. If Harrison comes back, that'll start again.

 

[WedgeX]

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcon...ed-knee-puts-falcons-mughelli-out-for-season/




FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Once I saw the replay of that hit, I knew he was done for the year.

Yeah, his knee just didn't move the right way with that hit, ack.

 

[TheFatOne]

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Patriots rookie offensive lineman Marcus Cannon, who slipped to the fifth round of the draft after being diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma, practiced with the team for the first time Tuesday as he continues to make progress in his return to the football field.

Awesome news Pats fans. I didn't expect him to be with the team this season. I am really interested in seeing how he looks, but that probably won't be until next year.

 

[Doorman]

No, it doesn't, and I've ripped on him for being injury-prone as well. He IS injury-prone as we've seen so far.

Yes but then my question is why are you calling Cuevas a douche for doing the same thing?

 

[tmdorsey]

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcon...ed-knee-puts-falcons-mughelli-out-for-season/




FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Once I saw the replay of that hit, I knew he was done for the year.

Gotdamnit. I hope Snelling is ready.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Took this from a Lions board I frequent. This is a collection of statistics of QBs from their 11th start to their 20th start, which Stafford just completed:



Perhaps I've been a little harsh with my criticism, although he has looked like he has regressed this season with each game.

3 out of 4 of those guys had their 11th through 20th starts like 10 years ago, pre-rule changes. Put Stafford in that time and he's probably putting up Tony Banks numbers.

 

[The Frankman]

3 out of 4 of those guys had their 11th through 20th starts like 10 years ago, pre-rule changes. Put Stafford in that time and he's probably dead.

Fixed...

 

[msdstc]

Awesome news Pats fans. I didn't expect him to be with the team this season. I am really interested in seeing how he looks, but that probably won't be until next year.

Yeah he's definitely a big part for the future... what a steal.

 

[bionic77]

Except when Harrison was playing neither of them were doing anything. If Harrison comes back, that'll start again.

Harrison was doing alright at the beginning of the season.

For some reason Woodley always starts out slow every season, but as long as he finishes strong and continues to be dominant in the playoffs I won't complain.

 

[Bowser]

3 out of 4 of those guys had their 11th through 20th starts like 10 years ago, pre-rule changes. Put Stafford in that time and he's probably putting up Tony Banks numbers.

Not to mention Brees looked like ass through his first three seasons before exploding in 2004.

Brees through his first 3 seasons (28 GP): 540/909 (59.4%), 5,613 yds, 29 TDs, 31 INTs, 73.7 QB rating

Brees since 2004 (117 GP): 2,817/4,212 (66.9%), 32,130 yds, 224 TDs, 109 INTs, 96.5 QB rating

Completely different player.

 

[Tom Penny]

Awesome news Pats fans. I didn't expect him to be with the team this season. I am really interested in seeing how he looks, but that probably won't be until next year.

They never miss on O Line guys they draft anyway. Dante is the best line coach in the league.

 

[MechDX]

http://footballoutsiders.com/

According to them Texans have 89.7% chance to make playoffs and 7.2% chance to win Superbowl. Also gives Indy 33.2 chance to win the Luck sweepstakes through week 7

 

[Plinko]

Yes but then my question is why are you calling Cuevas a douche for doing the same thing?

It's a typical fan thing--every time they can take a cheap shot, they take it. All fans are hypocritical--if you make fun of your team, it's fine. If a rival team's fan does, they're a douche. Happens all the time.

 

[beast786]

off-season avatar bet? Who is out of the race more at the end?

What do you out of the race? Playoffs?

 

[Plinko]

Not to mention Brees looked like ass through his first three seasons before exploding in 2004.

Brees through his first 3 seasons (28 GP): 540/909 (59.4%), 5,613 yds, 29 TDs, 31 INTs, 73.7 QB rating

Brees since 2004 (117 GP): 2,817/4,212 (66.9%), 32,130 yds, 224 TDs, 109 INTs, 96.5 QB rating

Completely different player.

And that's the whole point--a lot of people are ready to give up on Stafford (and I have had those thoughts as well) but it's clear that QB's don't tend to blossom until they've put up 3-4 years worth of games. Stafford has played 1 1/4 years worth so far.

 

[TheLegendary]

Harrison was doing alright at the beginning of the season.

For some reason Woodley always starts out slow every season, but as long as he finishes strong and continues to be dominant in the playoffs I won't complain.

Playoffs?? Haha. You guys couldn't even beat Burt who shat himself on national television against the Jags.

 

[MechDX]

What do you out of the race? Playoffs?

 

[minx]

Sinking ship is still better than a sunk ship.

Lions 5-2
Bears 4-3

I wasn't aware one game difference make our ship already sunk. If they playoffs were today we are both in it though. Difference is the Lions players are dropping, and after the bye we get Carimi back and Bennett. They both should help out a lot. And I might have spelled their names wrong but I'm on my iPhone so fuck it.

 

[Doomsayer]

And that's the whole point--a lot of people are ready to give up on Stafford (and I have had those thoughts as well) but it's clear that QB's don't tend to blossom until they've put up 3-4 years worth of games. Stafford has played 1 1/4 years worth so far.

The Alex Smith defense.

Spoiler

Obviously I'm kidding, at least Stafford has shown development in his brief playing time.

 

[Bowser]

And that's the whole point--a lot of people are ready to give up on Stafford (and I have had those thoughts as well) but it's clear that QB's don't tend to blossom until they've put up 3-4 years worth of games. Stafford has played 1 1/4 years worth so far.

At that rate, you'll need to wait about 9.5 seasons to get 3 full seasons worth of game experience on which to judge him.

Spoiler

:jnc

 

[jakncoke]

3 out of 4 of those guys had their 11th through 20th starts like 10 years ago, pre-rule changes. Put Stafford in that time and he's probably putting up Tony Banks numbers.

lol Tony Banks, theres a name i haven't read in awhile

 

[beast786]

3 out of 4 of those guys had their 11th through 20th starts like 10 years ago, pre-rule changes. Put Stafford in that time and he's probably putting up Tony Banks numbers.

When do you consider is this pre-rule era?

 

[jakncoke]

When do you consider is this pre-rule era?

Probably the first rule post Pats beating up Colts wr's

 

[beast786]

I wasn't aware one game difference make our ship already sunk. If they playoffs were today we are both in it though. Difference is the Lions players are dropping, and after the bye we get Carimi back and Bennett. They both should help out a lot. And I might have spelled their names wrong but I'm on my iPhone so fuck it.

Really, Best is the only one who is any value on injury list. And could be bye after the bye.

As per Carimi and Bennett. Really Bennett, if that is your hope of improving your team then you guys are worst than I thought.

Its a 2 game difference, right now lions hold a tie breaker (head to head).

 

[minx]

Really, Best is the only one who is any value on injury list. And could be bye after the bye.

As per Carimi and Bennett. Really Bennett, if that is your hope of improving your team then you guys are worst than I thought.

Its a 2 game difference, right now lions hold a tie breaker (head to head).

Yeah sadly he is a improvement. But you are not worried about the Stafford injury at all? I would be.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Really, Best is the only one who is any value on injury list. And could be bye after the bye.

As per Carimi and Bennett. Really Bennett, if that is your hope of improving your team then you guys are worst than I thought.

Its a 2 game difference, right now lions hold a tie breaker (head to head).

Wtf didnt we have a month long avatar bet?

 

[Milchjon]

Rex Ryan 1994 Edition is hilarious (to me, at least):

 

[Plinko]

At that rate, you'll need to wait about 9.5 seasons to get 3 full seasons worth of game experience on which to judge him.

Spoiler

:jnc

:jnc

True, true.

 

[Goro Majima]

Is this rock bottom?

Unless Matt Millen is overseeing a Minnesota sport, you're not quite there yet.

Maybe Minnesota can be like Vanderbilt and claim that academics are their top priority!

 

[Doorman]

Yeah sadly he is a improvement. But you are not worried about the Stafford injury at all? I would be.

If he's healthy enough to play, he'll play. If he's not, he won't (or hell maybe he'll play anyway). Teams are looking to get big pressure on him early in games anyway, so it's not like whether he was hurt or not will affect opposing defenses "pinning their ears back" (man I hate that phrase) and coming after him.

This was looked at before the season as Stafford's big sink-or-swim year. If he goes through a third season with injuries that take him out for a sizable chunk of time, people are going to become really antsy in a hurry about the Lions picking up another young QB somehow. Maybe not to replace Stafford immediately, but it gets harder and harder to think of him as the answer the more banged up he gets.

 

[dabig2]

Sinking ship is still better than a sunk ship.

Lions 5-2
Bears 4-3

All I see from the Lions is another 2007 at this point. Except the slide is happening sooner this time around.

And the Bears aren't going anywhere this season either, but don't forget they were 4-3 last year at this time too.

 

[Plinko]

Listening to Stafford's comments today, I don't see any way he plays this weekend.

 

[MWS Natural]

Holy shit at Jimmy Graham's story.

Wow....inspiring story there. I'm sure his mom want's to be apart of his life now..