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NFL 2013 Week 2 |OT| - Manning Bowl III

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squicken

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I would argue the more egregious part was Matthew Stafford getting left out, yet again. He is only 25 and the same age as Kaep.

He just doesn`t get the same love because Staffords` talent was evident to be picked #1 in the NFL draft at 21 whereas Kaep got picked a year later.

Keep sleeping on Stafford though. It works to our advantedge.

Stafford makes like $900m a year. Not like there's some market inefficiency Detroit took advantage of. And of all the top QBs that have entered the league in the last 5 years, those guys would still be on the list of best candidates for success going forward.

I'm also not sure why Cam's supporting cast is worse than Luck's. Who on Indy's defense would Carolina want? Would CAR trade Smith for Wayne? Who on IND's offensive line is as good as Kalil and Gross?

edit: But the single biggest thing wrong is the durability. I'd put Luck and Cam as 1 and 1a. Both guys are built like tanks
 
Marques Colston becomes leading receiver in Saints' history.

I'm surprised they didn't stop the game for 90 minutes to honor him on the field like they usually do.

Stafford makes like $900m a year. Not like there's some market inefficiency Detroit took advantage of. And of all the top QBs that have entered the league in the last 5 years, those guys would still be on the list of best candidates for success going forward.

I'm also not sure why Cam's supporting cast is worse than Luck's. Who on Indy's defense would Carolina want? Would CAR trade Smith for Wayne? Who on IND's offensive line is as good as Kalil and Gross?

Consider who's making the comments. Polian wants his former team looking good.
 
in Staffords defense, he's severally handicapped by his coach, and the retards that play for his defense.

these things are true but he also has the best WR in the game and that same coaching staff lets him put the ball up 50+ times a game. we could play grabass all day between players and say well his situation is better or worse. but then you can't compare anyone to anyone since the situations are different. in the nfl you are what you are
 

cdyhybrid

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these things are true but he also has the best WR in the game and that same coaching staff lets him put the ball up 50+ times a game. we could play grabass all day between players and say well his situation is better or worse. but then you can't compare anyone to anyone since the situations are different. in the nfl you are what you are

Don't forget that he has an 1800 yard RB!
 
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Cam missed one play after this hit. One.

RGIII calls that hit "The Career-Ender."
 

Bowser

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Stafford makes like $900m a year. Not like there's some market inefficiency Detroit took advantage of. And of all the top QBs that have entered the league in the last 5 years, those guys would still be on the list of best candidates for success going forward.

I'm also not sure why Cam's supporting cast is worse than Luck's. Who on Indy's defense would Carolina want? Would CAR trade Smith for Wayne? Who on IND's offensive line is as good as Kalil and Gross?

Supporting cast is probably equal - our defense in 2011 was god awful, last year it got better because of the emergence of Kuechly and Hardy, and this year with Lotulelei it's now one of the best front 7's in the league. Our secondary is fucking atrocious - Mikell started at SS after being signed just 6 days earlier. We will have trouble with mobile QBs, but the front 7 should mask these deficiencies against traditional QBs.

I think at this point in their careers Wayne and Smith are equal (I'd take Smith of course, but I think Wayne is talented enough), but I'd say as a whole the Colts WR corps are probably either equal or slightly better than the Panthers (as evidenced by the fact that of Cam's 16 completions, only one went to a WR not named Smith; or #2 WR had 0 catches because he couldn't get any separation against the Seattle DBs).

Gross is on the downside of his career (as evidenced by the massive paycut he took this season which voids his deal after this year) - the fact that's he's our second best lineman shows you just how bad our offensive line is. Gross is much better suited to play RT at this point in his career, but because of several misses in the draft, we don't have anyone who can take over for him at LT (hell, we don't have a capable RT).
 
Sounds about right to me!

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Go Hawks

Niners suck

I don't doubt his work ethic. The dude started preparing for 2013 after losing the NFC Divisional playoff game; you need dedication to be able to do something like that. Insinuating he works harder than Brady or Manning, though, is pushing it. Still, Wilson's time spent on preparation is admirable.
 

Talon

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I don't doubt his work ethic. The dude started preparing for 2013 after losing the NFC Divisional playoff game; you need dedication to be able to do something like that. Insinuating he works harder than Brady or Manning, though, is pushing it. Still, Wilson's time spent on preparation is admirable.
The "working hard" bullshit is just that - bullshit. Josh Freeman was at One Buc Place the day after his second season. Lot of fucking good that's done him.
 

squicken

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Supporting cast is probably equal - our defense in 2011 was god awful, last year it got better because of the emergence of Kuechly and Hardy, and this year with Lotulelei it's now one of the best front 7's in the league. Our secondary is fucking atrocious - Mikell started at SS after being signed just 6 days earlier. We will have trouble with mobile QBs, but the front 7 should mask these deficiencies against traditional QBs.

I think at this point in their careers Wayne and Smith are equal (I'd take Smith of course, but I think Wayne is talented enough), but I'd say as a whole the Colts WR corps are probably either equal or slightly better than the Panthers (as evidenced by the fact that of Cam's 16 completions, only one went to a WR not named Smith; or #2 WR had 0 catches because he couldn't get any separation against the Seattle DBs).

Gross is on the downside of his career (as evidenced by the massive paycut he took this season which voids his deal after this year) - the fact that's he's our second best lineman shows you just how bad our offensive line is. Gross is much better suited to play RT at this point in his career, but because of several misses in the draft, we don't have anyone who can take over for him at LT (hell, we don't have a capable RT).

Didn't know that about Gross. Good point about the other targets. I definitely like Allen and (sort of) Fleener over CAR's TE situation. I like Hilton but for some reason he's the third guy in IND behind DHB. Colts added some FA guys on their defense but can't really see the test there after playing Oakland, though Pryor made a lot of them look bad
 

beast786

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these things are true but he also has the best WR in the game and that same coaching staff lets him put the ball up 50+ times a game. we could play grabass all day between players and say well his situation is better or worse. but then you can't compare anyone to anyone since the situations are different. in the nfl you are what you are


Lol 1 game of 400 yards and now you are comparing him to greatness of stafford.
 

methodman

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I just want to feel all the love :( It's been so long....
Don't worry man, if you guys win, you'll get some national tv games and that will make a world of a difference. I'm always impressed with what I've seen from tannehill. Hopefully he can keep it up and you guys make the playoffs
 
It's fun to see other people notice your team or players but at the end of the day it's all about those W's. Just have to focus on that.

I try my best to spread the gospel of Wake from time to time, though.

Yep. Definitely better to stay under the radar and win than be a center of national attention for how inept you are (I.E. Jets, Raiders)
 

XiaNaphryz

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Vegas books had one of its best weekends ever:

“I have been in this business since 2000, and this was one of the best NFL kickoffs sportsbooks have experienced,” said Sportsbook.ag’s Mike Perry. And he said that before the favored Texans failed to cover on Monday night against the Chargers — the biggest win of the week for more than a few books. Yes, the bettors got crushed.

Bovada reports an amazing 95 percent of all action on the Jets-Bucs game backed the losing Tampa Bay side. Think about just how lopsided that is. Nineteen of 20 bets faded the home underdog Jets. When the public grows sour on a team, nobody but the pros are willing to bet them. Not only did bettors lose against the four-point spread, they also lost their money line bets on the Bucs when New York kicked a late field goal for the win.

Oakland’s cover was another huge win for the house. Bettors liked the idea of backing Andrew Luck over the team with the worst Super Bowl odds entering the season. This was in spite of the advanced stats crowd predicting a regression, or the fact that the 2012 Colts were the first 11-win team to ever be outscored, or the small matter that the Colts — an 11-point favorite — won only two of 17 games last season by more than a touchdown. According to the action tracking tool at Pregame.com, only 18 percent of bets cashed with the Raiders.

The average bettor’s love of the bandwagon paid off with Kansas City. The Chiefs covered easily as four-point chalk, after opening favored by only a single point. Andy Reid's team have had the support of bettors the entire offseason.

Niners-Packers generated the most action among Sunday’s day slate. This 4:25 p.m. ET start was a great example of the power of scheduling. The one other late afternoon game was of little interest to bettors, resulting in oversize SF-GB action on sides, totals, and parlays. The public won with San Francisco, even though the also-marquee Packers entered the contest having covered 20 of 28 as an underdog. The average bettor acts upon what he saw last, which was total playoff domination by the Niners against Aaron Rodgers & Co.

The wiseguys most consistently backed the Panthers, Browns, and Titans — covering only one of the three. Some, but not all, sportsbooks reported sharp action on two more losers: Minnesota and Baltimore. Keep in mind that professional bettors are separate people who each individually makes decisions. Wiseguy opinion is rarely unanimous, and sometimes the consensus cannot even be discerned. For example, LVH’s Jay Kornegay reported sharp action on the Falcons, while Boyd Gaming reported the same on the Saints.

In terms of the college game, the action was on Notre Dame at Michigan, with the bettors profiting on the favored Wolverines. Bovada was an exception, citing Florida-Miami as the larger bet game. Overall, bettors suffered a moderate college football loss for the second week in a row.

Handicapper Teddy Sevransky first pointed me to this week’s eye-popping case of just how aware college coaches are of the Vegas spread. North Carolina, favored by 19.5 against Middle Tennessee State, led by 27 late in the game. MTSU had the ball, and NC’s defensive starters were out of the game. MTSU scored with 25 seconds left and then recovered an onside kick at midfield. North Carolina, up by 20 with less than a half-minute remaining — again, favored by 19.5 — proceeded to put its defensive starters back in the game! You can bet the alumni appreciated it.

This Saturday will be dominated by Alabama at Texas A&M. The Golden Nugget’s Aaron Kessler expects the influx of bettors in Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather–Canelo Alvarez fight to drive a big handle all weekend. The marquee NFL game of the week is Sunday night’s battle between San Francisco and Seattle, but according to Boyd Gaming’s Bob Scucci, it might not generate the expected action: “Two teams are playing each other that the public loves to bet. The average bettor likes it more when real good teams play real bad teams, rather than good teams playing each other, or bad teams playing each other.” Next Tuesday, we’ll tell you the truth about what happened in Vegas over the weekend.
 
It's fun to see other people notice your team or players but at the end of the day it's all about those W's. Just have to focus on that.

I try my best to spread the gospel of Wake from time to time, though.

Yeah I know hopefully we get number 2 this weekend


Yep. Definitely better to stay under the radar and win than be a center of national attention for how inept you are (I.E. Jets, Raiders)


Now that I'm thankful for, even during the 1-15 season it wasn't as bad as what the jets/jags/raiders endure now. (jets deserve it though)
 

bionic77

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http://larrybrownsports.com/gossip/lindsey-vonn-cheating-on-tiger-woods/203635

Tiger's lady stepping out. But maybe this is what he needs to start winning majors again. Reverse the process. I'll have to defer to Dr bionic on how that works metaphysically
A friend of mine who was a huge fan of golf told me that all great women golfers had a huge ass.

I won't claim to be an expert in golf so maybe Tiger needs to squat more and eat some fried chicken and collard greens to build up the ass so he can start winning again.
 

Kacar

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Not shocking obviously but my twitter feed informed me that browns stadium is the only stadium to never host a home playoff game.
 
A friend of mine who was a huge fan of golf told me that all great women golfers had a huge ass.

I won't claim to be an expert in golf so maybe Tiger needs to squat more and eat some fried chicken and collard greens to build up the ass so he can start winning again.

Hmm I need to start playing some golf.
 

bionic77

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Hmm I need to start playing some golf.
So many hot chicks play golf and tennis. Probably more into tennis.

But apparently the skinny hot chicks don't win in golf.

Keep in mind I learned this in the 90s by a guy who had as much respect for women's golf as most of us have for the WNBA, Pats fans and Gata.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
FO looks back on the 1990 season:

* In Week 8, the 49ers picked off Cleveland quarterback Mike Pagel on three straight plays. I don't mean three straight Cleveland plays. I mean three straight plays, period, because the first two picks were cancelled by offside penalties on San Francisco.

* In a Week 16 game against Pittsburgh, the Browns lost fumbles on each of their first three plays from scrimmage. They eventually tied the NFL record by losing eight fumbles during the game.

* From the Cleveland Plain-Dealer report on Week 17's loss to Cincinnati: "The Browns got off to a shaky start in the second half, getting caught with their pants down, so to speak. On the first play from scrimmage, the Browns' defense had only nine men on the field and were forced to use a timeout... What happened is we were wet and everybody was changing clothes (in the locker room)," [interim head coach Jim] Shofner said. "And a couple of our young linemen just didn't get it done in time."
 
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