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[TangoAlphaLima]

Palmer will be there for at least a couple of years.

Or until that o-line kills him.

 

[bionic77]

Maybe so. In reality (aside from obvious choices like listed above), there aren't many QBs I would take Alex over.

I'd move some spots around, but I think the Greg Rosenthal mostly gets it right with this list:

The Best of the Best

1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
3. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers

Next Level

6. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
7. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
8. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
9. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
10. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
11. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
12. Eli Manning, New York Giants
13. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
14. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
15. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears

Mid-level options

16. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
17. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
18. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins
19. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
20. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
21. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
22. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals
23. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
24. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
25. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

Looking for development
26. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27. Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
28. Brandon Weeden, Cleveland Browns
29. Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
30. Geno Smith, New York Jets
31. Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
32. Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars

Now I'm going to mow my lawn!

Eli is just as good as Ben. He belongs on that list of top 5 or 6. He has been better than Ben at times and vice versa. Also less likely to commit rape or drive a motorcycle without a helmet.

 

[squicken]

I'm co-signing this. As the number one Alex Smith hater I vehemently agree with your statement.

According to Florio, things aren't looking good for Greg Schiano. If Josh leaves Tampa next year I've got a Cardinals jersey ready for him. Fitz will pick him up in helicopter and stop at McDonalds on the way to signing the contract. Coearly, Mike Glennon is the answer in Tampa. His football IQ is off the charts. He's a football lifer and gym rat. Plus, he fits coach Schiano's style.

Carson is done after this season mo disrespect.

Is their a kickstarter for helping with the signing bonus? Josh would be fantastic in AZ

e: I like Rosenthal but he has a thing for Big Ben. I think he had him as his MVP and PITT in the SB

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Working tonight, nobody better die.

RIP patients

 

[bionic77]

Is their a kickstarter for helping with the signing bonus? Josh would be fantastic in AZ

e: I like Rosenthal but he has a thing for Big Ben. I think he had him as his MVP and PITT in the SB

Ben is a difference maker when healthy. He was consistently able to make something out of nothing. Especially in big games. Not many qbs have been able to do that.

 

[BlackGhost]

Speaking of the Best, I still think Big Ben is the only elite Qb in the AFC North. I feel like Flacco and Dalton are good, but there guys that need all the right pieces around them.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

I'd also like to see some WRs step up, Rod Streater, or Brice Butler are two I think that might push forward to be the #1 and #2, although Denarius or Jacoby should be the ones that emerge they haven't done so yet. We'll see what happens.

Agree, with Streater and Butler. It killed me that Butler was open on that last play and would have scored a TD if Pryor would have made the right progression and didn't lose track of the safety.

Also looking for Holmes to step up when his suspension is up. Will probably take Criner's place.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Eli is just as good as Ben. He belongs on that list of top 5 or 6. He has been better than Ben at times and vice versa. Also less likely to commit rape or drive a motorcycle without a helmet.

One thing I notice about Eli is that he's streaky as fuck. For 6 weeks he's the best QB in the league then for the next 4 he's a dog's breakfast then back to great again.

 

[WedgeX]

RIP patients

Having people you work with pass away is the worst. Only had two clients pass away in the past year, but got dang each time has sucked.

God speed, Chan.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Rather have a Gabbert. Gabbert at least gives you no hope and a better draft position the next year while Alex will just dissapoint you when your team is bordering on good enough to be a contendor.

but if you needed to win *A* game and your choices were gabbert or alex you would take alex.

i would also take alex over freeman, bradford, jay cutler and palmer

 

[brentech]

Working tonight, nobody better die.

that just seems like a horrible stressful job. i'm sure it has its great moments as well, but super lows.

 

[Officerrob]

Maybe so. In reality (aside from obvious choices like listed above), there aren't many QBs I would take Alex over.

I'd move some spots around, but I think the Greg Rosenthal mostly gets it right with this list:

The Best of the Best

1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
3. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers

Next Level

6. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
7. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
8. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
9. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
10. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
11. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
12. Eli Manning, New York Giants
13. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
14. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
15. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears

Mid-level options

16. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
17. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
18. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins
19. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
20. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
21. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
22. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals
23. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
24. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
25. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

Looking for development
26. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27. Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
28. Brandon Weeden, Cleveland Browns
29. Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
30. Geno Smith, New York Jets
31. Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
32. Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars

Now I'm going to mow my lawn!

Weeden will be 30 next month and is rightfully in the development tier. I'll never understand him being a first round pick

 

[BlackGhost]

Weeden will be 30 next month and is rightfully in the development tier. I'll never understand him being a first round pick

Seems more and more like a panic move the more I look at it, the holmgren Heckery era really wasn't that great despite what people might say

 

[Ninja Scooter]

lol Roethlisberger being top 5.

 

[chuckddd]

Seems more and more like a panic move the more I look at it, the holmgren Heckery era really wasn't that great despite what people might say

:jnc

 

[Talon]

Eli gets no respect still.

 

[gutshot]

lol Roethlisberger being top 5.

Yeah, that seems way too high. He was great in his day, but he's definitely on the downside of his career. He belongs in that "Next Level" and probably closer to the bottom of that tier.

 

[Buckethead]

They should outlaw all chips that aren't thick wavy chips.

Okay we can have tortilla chips too.

But only the ones made by Messicans.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Seems more and more like a panic move the more I look at it, the holmgren Heckery era really wasn't that great despite what people might say

who said that era was good?

 

[WedgeX]

They should outlaw all chips that aren't thick wavy chips.

Okay we can have tortilla chips too.

But only the ones made by Messicans.

My man.

Although, barbeque chips are sometimes delish.

 

[Fantomex]

They should outlaw all chips that aren't thick wavy chips.

Okay we can have tortilla chips too.

But only the ones made by Messicans.

You know whats good? Ketchup chips. Have you guys ever had any? Delicious.

 

[chuckddd]

They should outlaw all chips that aren't thick wavy chips.

Okay we can have tortilla chips too.

But only the ones made by Messicans.

There's a massive Mexican supermarket here and they fry their own tortilla chips. So good.

 

[B For Bendetta]

lol Roethlisberger being top 5.

Yeah hasn't been for awhile

 

[squicken]

but if you needed to win *A* game and your choices were gabbert or alex you would take alex.

i would also take alex over freeman, bradford, jay cutler and palmer

Depends on what the "real" Alex is. Is he the guy who Harbaugh put in a super friendly offense with a great OL, VD, Crabbles and Gore, or the guy under Norv, McCarthy and Nolan?

 

[Godslay]

Weeden will be 30 next month and is rightfully in the development tier. I'll never understand him being a first round pick

We'll see. I think he has plenty of talent, I'm not giving up on him just yet. I think at some point he shifts up to the mid -tier.

lol Roethlisberger being top 5.

He might be in decline to some degree, but it's hard to dispute that the guy is/was pretty goddamn good. I still think he's got some good years left in him if they can protect him and get someone to run the damn ball. Definitely still top 10 for me.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Maybe so. In reality (aside from obvious choices like listed above), there aren't many QBs I would take Alex over.

I'd move some spots around, but I think the Greg Rosenthal mostly gets it right with this list:

The Best of the Best

1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
3. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers

Next Level

6. Andrew Luck, Indianapolis Colts
7. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
8. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks
9. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers
10. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
11. Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins
12. Eli Manning, New York Giants
13. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
14. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
15. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears

Mid-level options

16. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
17. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
18. Ryan Tannehill, Miami Dolphins
19. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
20. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
21. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
22. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals
23. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals
24. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
25. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs

Looking for development
26. EJ Manuel, Buffalo Bills
27. Jake Locker, Tennessee Titans
28. Brandon Weeden, Cleveland Browns
29. Christian Ponder, Minnesota Vikings
30. Geno Smith, New York Jets
31. Terrelle Pryor, Oakland Raiders
32. Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville Jaguars

Now I'm going to mow my lawn!

How is Eli not #5 or #6?

Undermines an otherwise decent list.

 

[WedgeX]

You know whats good? Ketchup chips. Have you guys ever had any? Delicious.

Have a buddy who would eat ketchup flavored chips by soaking them in ketchup.

 

[Eleuin]

You know whats good? Ketchup chips. Have you guys ever had any? Delicious.

So good.

Something Canada did right

 

[Fantomex]

Have a buddy who would eat ketchup flavored chips by soaking them in ketchup.

never tried it, but i know Canada and Latin America has Ketchup chips instead of Bbq or Sour Cream and Onion.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

You know whats good? Ketchup chips. Have you guys ever had any? Delicious.

the fuck?

 

[Godslay]

How is Eli not #5 or #6?

Undermines an otherwise decent list.

I agree. He should be up there.

 

[eznark]

Is this Babe Ruth museum in Baltimore worth going to?

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

We'll see. I think he has plenty of talent, I'm not giving up on him just yet. I think at some point he shifts up to the mid -tier.

I agree. Once Gordon comes back and assuming his protection improves somewhat I think he'll be fairly decent this year.

 

[ShaneB]

Ketchup chips are wonderful, and it's been years since I've had them.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Ben's problem is the same as it always was - he's a stubborn asshole who refuses to change. Before injury last year he was one of the best QB's in the league, then he got injured, came back, said "Fuck Haley" and the team shit themselves.

 

[squicken]

Ben missed practice for personal reasons today, which I'm just going to assume means he hates Haley and has asked for a trade

 

[BlackGhost]

who said that era was good?

Browns fans, wasn't talking to you jags boy.

Spoiler

Stop inviting me to call you names!!!! I don't like doing this!

 

[Godslay]

So would you guys believe me if I said Von has a warrant in California for failure to appear due to a speeding ticket?

Better start believing.

:JNFC THIS GUY.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Ben missed practice for personal reasons today, which I'm just going to assume means he hates Haley and has asked for a trade

 

[crimzonflame]

The Eagles have no more Sunday night or Monday Night games? The fuck is this shit?

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

As the Seattle Seahawks prepare to host their arch-rivals on Sunday Night Football, the 12th Man needs to keep one thing in mind.

That 49ers fan you’re harassing could be a cop.

The Seahawks have announced that undercover officers will wear opposing team jerseys at home games, starting Sunday night. The move comes less than two weeks after the Seahawks began using non-uniformed police to monitor fan conduct at CenturyLink Field.

“We have great fans,” Seahawks president Peter McLoughlin said in a team-issued release. “Our goal is to ensure a safe environment for all in attendance, including visiting team fans.”

The 49ers have taken similar steps, starting during the 2011 playoffs. After Saints fans were harassed in the divisional round, officers outfitted with Giants jerseys attending the NFC title game.

Fans who are ejected from Seahawks home games are required to complete a four-hour online course, at a cost of $75, before being permitted to return.

fucking animals. i hope these undercover niners fans crack some skulls!

 

[bionic77]

Ben missed practice for personal reasons today, which I'm just going to assume means he hates Haley and has asked for a trade

If Tebow played for a team I would trade Ben and Haley for him. God would be our o coordinator,

 

[Starphoenix]

So would you guys believe me if I said Von has a warrant in California for failure to appear due to a speeding ticket?

Better start believing.

:JNFC THIS GUY.

He's gone.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

So would you guys believe me if I said Von has a warrant in California for failure to appear due to a speeding ticket?

Better start believing.

:JNFC THIS GUY.

thug life

 

[Godslay]

thug life

Well speeding it's exactly thug life. But not paying the speeding ticket is just stupid.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Cops to be in 49ers gear at Seahawks game:

RENTON, Wash. -- In an effort to weed out unruly fans, the Seattle Seahawks say they will have undercover police officers wearing opposing team apparel beginning with Sunday night's highly anticipated matchup against the San Francisco 49ers.

The Seahawks announced the plan Wednesday, saying the goal is to ensure a safe environment for all fans, including those supporting the visiting team.

The Seahawks say game day staff will intervene against unruly behavior, foul or abusive language and verbal and physical harassment of opposing team fans or stadium guests and staff members. Any fans asked to leave for violations of fan conduct will have to complete a four-hour online educational course at their own cost before they will be cleared to attend events at the stadium again.

Not surprising after this Seattle fan account:

I didn’t even realize we were such assholes until I lost a bet last year and had to wear Jets gear in the Hawks Nest last season.

On the way to my seats which were in row OO (do that math that’s 41 rows) up the steepest steps I have ever climbed in my life (on the way passing several already incredibly wasted, and incredibly obese and incredibly winded fans) I was informed every step of the way how much “Teblow” sucks and how big of a homosexual (they expressed this with a 3 letter word) I was for being a fan of him. In the first quarter after the Golden Tate touchdown a man in a Flynn Jersey, rocking the socks/sandals combo with long greasy unkempt hair turned around and yelled, not at me, but the child beside me’s face about how “The Jets are the worst fucking team in the league and he should prepare to bend over”. When the father politely asked him to stop cause he’s a fucking kid, he responded spittle flying out of his mouth with every word “YOU DONT BRING YOUR KIDS TO THE FUCKING HAWKS NEST WOOOOOOO” and proceeded to high 5 his buddies and chug a beer.

After walking down all those steps to take a piss, I saw a group of 3 Hawks fans push another Jets fan into the urinal while he was pissing (again celebrated with high 5’s and beer chugging). Not wanting to risk this I climbed back to my seats and offered my friends the next 2 rounds of brew if they would escort me to the washroom and set up a human shield protecting me.

With most Jets fans out of the building by the 3rd quarter of the blowout, fans turned on each other. From the east side of the Hawks nest lower side I heard a chant start “Tase him tase him tase him” and looked over to see 2 Seahawks fans fighting (I use this term loosely, more of an on the ground man-hug) and 2 King County Sheriffs officers tasers in hand (by the third quarter in the Hawks Nest regular security no long patrols this section) attempting to break it up followed by the horrible “click click click” of the taser going off and then the roar of approval from the entire section.

The saddest part is, that the entire stadium was nearly empty by the 4th quarter because all the respectable fans leave while a drunken mass crams in behind the visitor teams sideline to heckle the athletes and vomit over the railing. Leaving the stadium while stepping over copious amounts of puke there was a gutted transit bus filled with drunks chained to poles and I heard the officer outside of it say “bring in the second bus, she’s full.”

This wasn’t even against a team in the same conference for god’s sake. I can only imagine the shit-show that is the 49ers game in primetime this year.

 

[Narag]

Ben missed practice for personal reasons today, which I'm just going to assume means he hates Haley and has asked for a trade

Reuniting with Arians no doubt.

 

[Godslay]

Cops to be in 49ers gear at Seahawks game.

Good. Hopefully this stops Aldon from popping off his guns to clear the stadium after the game.

 

[Talon]

Ben missed practice for personal reasons today, which I'm just going to assume means he hates Haley and has asked for a trade

I would pay money to see Todd Haley and Sean Payton have a cursefest. I'm pretty sure the English language would be better off for it.

 

[BlackGhost]

So would you guys believe me if I said Von has a warrant in California for failure to appear due to a speeding ticket?

Better start believing.

:JNFC THIS GUY.

Ahhhhh smh, what is he doing :/