The Artful Dodger
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Read Option isn't going to be a prominent thing. Remember how long the Wildcat lasted?
NFL 2013 Week 3 |OT| - We're Up All Night To Get Gronky
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Read Option isn't going to be a prominent thing. Remember how long the Wildcat lasted?
yankeehater
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I think watching guys like RGIII (when he is healthy), or Kap play QB is incredibly exciting. I hope it never goes away.
Looks to me like he hit him with his left shoulder. The cam angle will naturally make it seem like he buried his head into his chest. The fact that his head came up right away tells me he didn't use it to hit him.
yankeehater
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You coulod download it off of PSN if the texture pop-in doesnt drive you crazy.
God forbid we have a little variety on offense in the pro game!
TangoAlphaLima
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The Wildcat was super gimmicky though, and everyone knew it was gimmicky. Any formation where you line up Chad Pennington as a WR is sure to fail.
Read-Option is having its heyday now, and defenses will adjust, but I don't think it's a gimmick, not when a smart and mobile QB is using it.
I hope Schoob is their QB forever.
I personally disagree. Well I liked Kap Week 1 this season, but read option? It comes off a bit amateur. Just my personal take.
yankeehater
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Pats fans? Honestly though why dont you go and work on your next lie to make your self feel better about your horrible life rather then try to talk shit to people.
The Artful Dodger
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I don't mind seeing it here and there, I think it's more of a situational thing. I love offensive ingenuity, and it's cool to see these things come and go, I'm not saying it'll disappear entirely, but I think we'll see it less and less, but it'll still be used once in a while to keep defenses guessing.
He has a point. Even Harbaugh abandons it when he wants to win.
Jim Harbaugh, is it you?
Well, considering American football originated with amateur players (colleges), and those same amateurs introduced the forward pass...
Edit: Oh, and don't forget that the huddle and the pre-snap shift also originated in college. I guess we should have just ignored those too
The Artful Dodger
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I think it's less about the QB and more about his options, the Read option only really works when the run, the pass and the mobility of the QB are all legitimate threats.
my team is 2-0
I live in the most developed part of this country
I don't live in Pennsylvania
I'm posting from ios7
my QB isn't a read option dog killer
life's pretty good
yankeehater
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What point, that people who like to see some variety in football are fans of teams that have never won SB's? That is stupid even for him. I am sure there are plenty of Eagles fans that dont like the read option, just like there are probably tons of 9ers fans that do like it. It literally has 0 to do with how successful the team you root for has been.
If I want to watch dumb ass QB's who cant run a pro style offense I'll look to watch some Pac 10 games. Oh wait fuck it! Lets just run some veer offense while were at it! Or better yet bring back the fucking wish bone!!
To go forward we must go backwards!
I would rather watch Manning, Brady, Schaub, Cutler, Brees, etc...than any of that gimmick nonsense
FrenchMovieTheme
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also a nice hold on that play by #68 vs. bowman. i know they don't call offensive holding anymore in the NFL and i'm generally fine with it as long as they let both teams get away with it. they called a ticky tack hold on us for the safety and then the chickens get away with massive holds. aldon smith should've probably had 5 sacks in that game. oh well
NO! I can't bear to see you like this.
yankeehater
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You bragged about spending $35 on a meal, so no life isnt good for you at all. I also dont live in PA so not sure what that has to do with anything. Plus how is Michigan any better then PA? Your team beat 2 rookie QBs, and who gives a fuck anyways your where talking about successful franchises, if 2-0 is your definition then you have set a very low bar. Pats and Eagles have the same number of SBs in their histories.
zombie schoob
FrenchMovieTheme
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Holding. The final gasp for the defeated.
i don't complain about penalties unless the refs are only calling it on one side. we did get a couple holding calls against the chickens where their guard tackled justin smith so i guess it wasn't completely ignored. didn't feel like the game was fairly officiated. you can call it sour grapes from losing but i didn't feel that the game against the packers was fairly officiated for us either and i'm an unbiased party
Future PhaZe
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NFL age heating up
Yeah, these guys, total scrubs! They only did well in college running gimmick offenses in the no-defense Pac-12!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...on-to-race-garcon-still-has-issue-with-brace/
RG3 really grasping for a win of any sorts now.
RG3 really grasping for a win of any sorts now.
Advanced stats hate sacks. QBR and Football Outsiders ding QBs for it. PFR uses Adjusted Yards per Attempt and includes sacks as dropbacks and lost yardage subtracts from passing yards. Not saying it's right but that's where those guys fall on the argument
:last pic:
How'd they fit a helmet on a horse head?
The Artful Dodger
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What I feel like doing whenever others are having conversations about their Franchises
I know they're not referring to the Oakland Raiders, but it's still funny and I can pretend.
yankeehater
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Is Garcon even know for his speed? I dont get the point of wanting to race him.
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Insert Big 12, WAC, ACC whatever....I just used the first conference that came to mind. Sorry if I offended your west coast sensibilities.
it was 537$
my team doesn't lose to Philip rivers
you support a team where you don't even live, you're basically gata with a lakers hat and a Yankees shirt
you went to 2 Super Bowls and lost 2, 3>0
my QB still isn't a read option dog killer
Well, when the argument is that something coming from college is bad, and the game itself and basically every development since its invention in the late 1800s came to the pros from college...
Oh nice edit
No it doesn't pain me at all. Cal is Cal, and I have no animosity towards Stanford. I'm already a fan of Mariota because he went to my high school, if that's what you're referring to. He just made a really poor college choice - we're all human, we all make mistakes.
I can throw Chris Chandler in there too if you're angry that I didn't include the greatest QB in Falcons history.
Pot, meet Kettle.
If I ate a meal where someone just took a dump on my pasta and threw some seafood on it, I'd try to mentally block it out too.
The Artful Dodger
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Lol, this reminds me of the time Daunte Culpepper got hurt cause he raced a Defensive Back who called him an old man.
yankeehater
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Except I lived in Philly almost my whole life and I still have Eagles season tickets.
LOL, I cant even imagine Culpepper trying to race someone.
You don't think offensive scheme has anything to do with how successful your team is?
Advanced stats hate sacks. QBR and Football Outsiders ding QBs for it. PFR uses Adjusted Yards per Attempt and includes sacks as dropbacks and lost yardage subtracts from passing yards. Not saying it's right but that's where those guys fall on the argument
Still baffling to me for a number of reasons. The goal of those stats is supposedly to isolate QB play so you take into account an outcome that generally has very little to do with the QB, not only that but you weigh it almost as highly as touchdowns thrown. Additionally, the alternative outcome of a pressure is generally awful as well. Incompletion, fumble, penalties as a result of a QB keeping a play alive and linemen compensating, interception as the QB tries to get rid of the ball. It's all shit.
Additionally, Rodgers clearly takes sacks as opposed to throwing it away in many cases. He does it for a number of reasons. 1. avoid the turnover 2. protect himself (instead of contorting in order to attempt a throw away and getting bad angle shots 3. he has confidence in his ability to convert long yardage, especially on first downs. He will generally hold the ball longer on first down and third down than on second down because of this.
The hatred for sacks among football statheads is as bizarre to me as the hatred for walks among baseball seamheads. It's hilarious that it's the opposite sides of the spectrum with the illogical views for the two sports.
I'm talking about Lunchbox, yankee. Real knows Real.
Ultimately I think he can still brag about being able to overpay for shitty food like he does.
Himynameischris
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I know, and I agree in counting certain sacks where more pocket awareness would have prevented them, Tannehill has had an issues with that since preseason (has gotten better though) but claiming that he's the same as last season just isn't true, I know it's only two games into the season but so far he's corrected a lot of smaller issues he had last year (accuracy, locking on to receiver, moving safety)
Also I found this really great article on how the Dolphins used Wallace to create plays
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1778300-breaking-down-how-the-miami-dolphins-used-mike-wallace-in-week-2
I love reading break downs like this, makes the game that much more fun.
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