metalslimer
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That was 4 years (the last 2 without a playoff berth), and he was even going to start a 5th.
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NFL 2013 Wild Card |OT| The Return of Jafar
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That was 4 years (the last 2 without a playoff berth), and he was even going to start a 5th.
seriously. i don't think anyone but the player himself could have imagined it, and he probably had doubts.
But Dalton has had a decent/good line, good D, same coordinator. Not many excuses. Every once and a while, a change does help someone, but it's more rare.
Alright but two AFC Championship games.
yankeehater
Member
If the Eagles use a 1st on a RB I will kill someone.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Just imagine Alex if he would have had a stable OC with as much talent as game winning strategist Greg Roman from the beginning of his career?
how many picks did he throw in the championship game
yeah, I'm glad both sides kept it entertaining - it could've been ugly with the way the Packers' offense opened up
I hate those last-second FG wins, but I guess you can't hate on a 5-minute drive that sets it up
Plus, not sure how you can justify firing Jay Gruden. Those interceptions and fumbles aren't on him. Dalton just folds every single playoff game. It's not even like the Chargers pass defense was even remotely decent, and somehow he still manages to give them the ball again and again. It's pretty inexcusable how bad he folded today.
njean777
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Do not remember, says he threw 15 the whole year. I don't even remember if he threw one that game, I wasn't into high school sports really, as it was shoved down my throat every single day and the football players got special treatment so I really didn't care for my high school at all.
Plenty of pass rush though. Dalton was under pressure fairly often.
Which is odd, because Chargers don't have an all-star pass rush and I generally think the Bengals Oline is pretty good. Pagano certainly had his defense firing on all cylinders today, that's for sure.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
i didn't see much of the chargers game but i did read that melvin ingram came back. did he have that big of an effect on the game?
Lee Chaolan
Member
:jnc
I only saw the 2nd half, but he did have a pick
although it was a terrible decision by Dalton
Think there is enough sample size now. He's got one of the best supporting casts in football and he loses games for them in the playoffs. Definition of insanity to bring him back
FrenchMovieTheme
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your avatar is getting me all hot and bothered
GG Pack-GAF, was a tough fought game.
Niners-GAF, we did it! I really thought we were going to lose this game after our first two drives ended in field goals. I was thinking we needed to score at least a touchdown to give ourselves some distance.
Kaep made play after play with his arm and his legs. We got really luck that Hyde dropped that pick because that would have been backbreaking. Crabtree played like a man possessed with several tough and key catches - 2nd 100 yard game in three weeks. Really coming into his own at the right time.
Onto Carolina, should be a great one!
Niners-GAF, we did it! I really thought we were going to lose this game after our first two drives ended in field goals. I was thinking we needed to score at least a touchdown to give ourselves some distance.
Kaep made play after play with his arm and his legs. We got really luck that Hyde dropped that pick because that would have been backbreaking. Crabtree played like a man possessed with several tough and key catches - 2nd 100 yard game in three weeks. Really coming into his own at the right time.
Onto Carolina, should be a great one!
And he's still maturing as a QB. He played poorly today but the other teams get paid too. He's a stable force at the most important position and can still improve/limit his mistakes.
People are so quick to want to broom a QB that is imperfect forget how hard it is to even get that. They'll certifiably be worse with whoever they draft to replace him. For one year guaranteed, probably two or three.
i'd rather look at a picture of me kissing my own bicep
Honestly thought we were done when we took 2 fucking timeouts in the first few minutes of the third quarter. I want to fucking slap Roman (although if what I saw in here was true, the first one was on Kap for... forgetting his wristband with all the playcalls on it).
Also, I don't even want to see timeouts wasted like that. I'd MUCH rather us go 3 and out and take a 5 yard penalty than waste 2 timeouts like we did today. It's infuriating.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
They're in a tough situation. I still think Dalton can be salvaged for some dumb reason. That said, they blew another halftime lead. They're one-and-done again. The next time they have a shot at a playoff win will be, at the earliest, next season, 24 seasons after their last playoff win (the longest currently in the league, yes, ahead of the Browns, Chiefs, and Lions). And it was in a game where absolutely everything was at fault: bad defense, bad o-line, bad passing, bad catching and drops.
At this point, with all of that having happened, it's hard to justify not firing somebody. The problem is, who? Gruden? Dalton? Lewis? Somebody else? Somebody absolutely deserves to go after this abysmal streak of being just good enough to make it to the playoffs, but bad enough to make no progress beyond that. But I can't decide who deserves to go.
As a Ravens fan, it wasn't even fun watching that game, because nobody in this shitty division would have won that game in their place. But it's sad seeing a team utterly self-destruct like that and the Chiefs did. And I don't know who deserves the blame.
They get consistent pressure, or they have as of late. Not all-stars, but they gave the Broncos fits last game. Although Dalton did hang on to the ball for far too long. The curious thing about their defense to me is the secondary, how they can play so bad and then turn around and do a good job. Such an odd team in terms of who shows up on a weekly basis.
FrenchMovieTheme
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we have to get to a point where harbs says take the fucking 5 yard penalty or do not kill or audible a play if you get up to the line and there are 8 seconds left. sometimes you just need to take that no-gain and keep the timeouts. it didn't hurt us today but we can't keep doing this
Buckethead
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FMT be trolling, I'd be more concerned about paying Matthews so much green when he's always injured.
The Steelers 3-4 worked because that had big athletic dudes and Troy beasting on the back-end. Their DLs were always pretty solid too.
We have no Safety, a smart but slow ILB, a consistently injured OLB, and 1 good DL. Faaaaak.
The Steelers 3-4 worked because that had big athletic dudes and Troy beasting on the back-end. Their DLs were always pretty solid too.
We have no Safety, a smart but slow ILB, a consistently injured OLB, and 1 good DL. Faaaaak.
Exactly my feelings. We didn't get burned today, but we should've. We do that shit against the Seahawks? We're done. Against the Panthers? You bet we're done. Just take the 5 yards. Harbaugh has to either get on Roman or Kap, or both. He has to see that could've very easily cost us the game.
FrenchMovieTheme
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i also forgot to mention lemichael james and how important he has been to our team recently. it'll probably just get brushed aside for all the kap and rodgers and defense talk but he had a gigantic game returning for us today, just like he did against the cardinals last week. he had some solid kick returns and was solid in handling punt returns in what had to be very difficult fielding conditions. i wish we could get him on the field on offense for a handful of plays because he is dangerous but it is a numbers game.
everytime i say "why isn't LMJ on the field for 3rd down!? get gore out of there!" and then gore picks up a monster block on a blitz like he did on the crucial 3rd and 8 kap scramble and i am glad that i'm not coaching
everytime i say "why isn't LMJ on the field for 3rd down!? get gore out of there!" and then gore picks up a monster block on a blitz like he did on the crucial 3rd and 8 kap scramble and i am glad that i'm not coaching
Hasphat'sAnts
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Peyton Manning lost his 3rd career playoff game 0-41 to the Chad Pennington Jets.
Jury's out on Dalton, but he better be turning in MVP level stats next year
Jury's out on Dalton, but he better be turning in MVP level stats next year
Lee Chaolan
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:jnc all the 49ers avatars. xD
sf2fanatic
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Cool D Brine Yes! Yes!
FrenchMovieTheme
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you come at the king you best not miss
I came at the queen and still missed
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Exactly.
If Dalton played as well as he did in his first 3 seasons and never made the playoffs people wouldn't even be having this conversation about replacing him.
The idea hes not worth a 1st round pick is crazy. A washed up, literally retired Carson Palmer got a 1st rounder back. Alex Smith was moved for a 2nd rounder. Cutler got moved for 2 1st rounders, fucking Charlie Whitehurst got traded for a 3rd round pick.
There are at least a dozen teams right now that would replace their QB with Andy Dalton.
Fair point, but (and I honestly don't remember) wasn't the Colts defense pretty shitty back then? I mean, Dalton has one of the best receivers in the league, a great running game and more than capable Tight Ends and other Receivers as well as having a very good defense.
Hard to bring everyone back without really pissing off the fanbase. They're out for blood and who can blame them after losing 3 playoff games in a row? They weren't even competitive today and they were at home and heavily favored. Not to mention that they have played great at home ALL YEAR until today.
Himynameischris
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Sherlock was brilliant, it ends next week and I go back to work again 
rokkerkory
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Good grief Bengals, because of you I am am 3-1 in the playoffs so far.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
We all want the Patriots to win dont we?
Nameless
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Haha, the Browns would give up that 1st rounder they got for Ole Two Yard Richardson in a heartbeat for Dalton.
Buckethead
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I didn't see this:
Possibly concussed Bakhtiari forces his way back to field for extra point
That's my Khal.
Possibly concussed Bakhtiari forces his way back to field for extra point
That's my Khal.
unknownstranger
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Fox is probably drooling at the chances of a 49ers-Seahawks NFC Championship game. Before the season that was probably their most wanted match-up.
Hell CBS probably is too for Pats-Broncos.
Hell CBS probably is too for Pats-Broncos.
FrenchMovieTheme
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That is what everyone wanted last year. Tough games for both this week though
Hasphat'sAnts
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Not saying Dalton will turn into Peyton. Just pointing out that a couple of bad playoff performances shouldn't be why you get rid of a QB. Small sample size messes up the Big picture.
You get rid of Dalton if you think he's a bad qb. Not because he threw 2 picks in one game that just happens to be in January