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[bionic77]

There hasn't been a rookie that played great on the Steelers' defense since Mean Joe. Even Troy was pedestrian in his first year.

I am not sure if you could call him a rookie but James Harrison was a fucking beast in his first full year in the league and first year playing for the Steelers.

Before 07 I don't think he ever got any playing time other than some special teams.

Of course by then he was like 6 years out of college.

 

[MechDX]

With Cutler gone, the free agent market for QBs looks very thin.

Michael Vick
Josh McCown
Josh Freeman
Shaun Hill
Chad Henne
Tarvaris Jackson

Someone is going to pay Vick to be a starter, I can already see it coming.

Schoooooob!

 

[brentech]

Bush wasn't a bad pick up though.

The problem with the Lions start with Stafford and that terrible secondary.

I didn't say he was a bad pickup. But knowing that they had a terrible secondary, they did need a back to just milk the clock. Bell was the better option, as Reggie doesn't really have the trait. He's good at explosive plays, but that's not Detroit's problem. That and getting winded after big plays, or small cramps/injuries that he's always been plagued with.

Context.

 

[rando14]

wow 7 years for cutler? shiiiiiet

 

[bionic77]

haha people get held back that many grades early on? lol, I understand when you hit teen years and you start fucking around and not getting enough credits to be move up. but holy shit lol

I don't think it happens anymore, but I went to a shitty ass elementary school as a kid too.

Then again I am not even sure the kid I am talking about could even read. You could just slide by until you were 16 and then quit to become a mechanic or something.

 

[Coldnoodle]

I was a varsity athlete in more than one sport in high school brah!

Granted I got my first letter in tennis but I am pretty sure that is still a sport!

I was a good dodge ball player back in the day. I will admit that I was not the best in elementary school though. There was a kid who was held back 3 grades who was the absolute king and GOAT at dodgeball at our school. He was 13 in 5th grade and when we played dodgeball it was like that scene from Happy Gilmore. He might have been dumb as shit (and yet still smarter than Gata) but he owned all of our asses in dodgeball.

:lol

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Dodgeball is the sport of kings. I was a monster playing dodgeball.

Weird, I thought he would be pretty NFL-ready out of college but I guess that's why he fell so far.

He has potential but he needs to gain 20 pounds of muscle.

 

[Bowser]

wow 7 years for cutler? shiiiiiet

 

[gutshot]

Vick is still better than what most teams have at qb. He is worth it if you get him for cheap.

I can see some team who drafts a QBOTF bringing him on to start for part of the season, until the rookie is up-to-speed.

 

[jakncoke]

I don't think it happens anymore, but I went to a shitty ass elementary school as a kid too.

Then again I am not even sure the kid I am talking about could even read. You could just slide by until you were 16 and then quit to become a mechanic or something.

mechanics make good wages. the mechanic that they quoted my car for was 48 a hour! he would more than like would of been the guy at the fast food that managed to fuck up your order even though you only ordered 3 things with default options on it

 

[bionic77]

mechanics make good wages. the mechanic that they quoted my car for was 48 a hour! he would more than like would of been the guy at the fast food that managed to fuck up your order even though you only ordered 3 things with default options on it

They don't pay most mechanics nearly what they charge us for at the shop.

The money is in owning the shop not being the technician or mechanic.

They are not starving but those guys are not usually ballers either.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

They don't pay most mechanics nearly what they charge us for at the shop.

The money is in owning the shop not being the technician or mechanic.

They are not starving but those guys are not usually ballers either.

Most mechanics I know do work on the side for extra money. My old mechanic worked out of his garage.

 

[xnipx]

$18m/yr smh

I get it that a team is screwed w/o a QB, but that really puts them against it. End up like the Ravens where you can't keep an important piece

Joe flaccos contract had nothing to do with the ravens sucking ass this year. Anquan or no anquan we need new offense and defensive coordinators and about 3 new lineman.

 

[jakncoke]

They don't pay most mechanics nearly what they charge us for at the shop.

The money is in owning the shop not being the technician or mechanic.

They are not starving but those guys are not usually ballers either.

bet its more than what gata gets for trimming his mothers bush on the weekend

 

[MechDX]

 

[yankeehater]

The NFCN is just the Green Bay invitational for ever. Ridiculous how bad the teams in that division are. Packers went 2-5-1 in games without Rodgers this year and made up ground in the division. Lions will always be the Lions, lol at a franchise that has never even been to a SB and only won 1 playoff game in 50 years, by far the worst franchise in professional sports. The Bears are so determined to prove that the trade for Cutler was a good move that they sabotaged their own chances this year, and now have signed Cutler to a huge contract going forward. What a horribly run team they are. Congrats on the next 10 division titles Packer fans.

 

[effzee]

Vick is still better than what most teams have at qb. He is worth it if you get him for cheap.

Only problem is he can't stay healthy. No team, even if they decide to go with a veteran for 1-3 years until they draft a QB, can rely on him to last.

This year was his best chance to stay healthy because Chip loves to run the ball so his exposure would be limited. The OLINE is also now one of the better lines in all of the NFL. And he was avoiding those unnecessary hits and turnovers, but then just blew his hamstring running untouched.

Hope he comes back as our back up when no team commits to him to be a starter.

 

[Vio-Lence]

mechanics make good wages. the mechanic that they quoted my car for was 48 a hour!

that's what your are being charged for labor. the mechanic isn't making half of that.

 

[bionic77]

bet its more than what gata gets for trimming his mothers bush on the weekend

True but Gata is a also one dumb mofo.

 

[MechDX]

The NFCN is just the Green Bay invitational for ever. Ridiculous how bad the teams in that division are. Packers went 2-5-1 in games without Rodgers this year and made up ground in the division. Lions will always be the Lions, lol at a franchise that has never even been to a SB and only won 1 playoff game in 50 years, by far the worst franchise in professional sports. The Bears are so determined to prove that the trade for Cutler was a good move that they sabotaged their own chances this year, and now have signed Cutler to a huge contract going forward. What a horribly run team they are. Congrats on the next 10 division titles Packer fans.

NFCN = AFCE Seriously, the other teams in both divisions need to get a damn clue.

 

[Greg]

The NFCN is just the Green Bay invitational for ever. Ridiculous how bad the teams in that division are. Packers went 2-5-1 in games without Rodgers this year and made up ground in the division. Lions will always be the Lions, lol at a franchise that has never even been to a SB and only won 1 playoff game in 50 years, by far the worst franchise in professional sports. The Bears are so determined to prove that the trade for Cutler was a good move that they sabotaged their own chances this year, and now have signed Cutler to a huge contract going forward. What a horribly run team they are. Congrats on the next 10 division titles Packer fans.

the Vikings are legit contenders though

they just had an off year

 

[jakncoke]

NFCN = AFCE Seriously, the other teams in both divisions need to get a damn clue.

Imagine if the Bucs were still there!

 

[B For Bendetta]

Holy shit

I'm fuckin dying over here

 

[Plasticine]

The NFCN is just the Green Bay invitational for ever. Ridiculous how bad the teams in that division are. Packers went 2-5-1 in games without Rodgers this year and made up ground in the division. Lions will always be the Lions, lol at a franchise that has never even been to a SB and only won 1 playoff game in 50 years, by far the worst franchise in professional sports. The Bears are so determined to prove that the trade for Cutler was a good move that they sabotaged their own chances this year, and now have signed Cutler to a huge contract going forward. What a horribly run team they are. Congrats on the next 10 division titles Packer fans.

Cutler was far from the problem with the team this year. He put up 28 points against the Packers. With anything remotely resembling an average defense, that would have been enough to win the game and secure the North. Instead, the offense has to score 30+ every week to win. That's not sustainable, unless you play the Bears or Cowboys defense every week. If Emery can build an even somewhat competent defense, the Bears will contend next year. Of course, that's a huge if.

 

[slightconfuse]

Poor josh mccown

 

[bionic77]

Only problem is he can't stay healthy. No team, even if they decide to go with a veteran for 1-3 years until they draft a QB, can rely on him to last.

This year was his best chance to stay healthy because Chip loves to run the ball so his exposure would be limited. The OLINE is also now one of the better lines in all of the NFL. And he was avoiding those unnecessary hits and turnovers, but then just blew his hamstring running untouched.

Hope he comes back as our back up when no team commits to him to be a starter.

With the right coach and if surrounded by a good team I think Vick could be successful. Is he going to be a top 5 qb in the league? No, but he is still better than what most teams are going to be putting on the field next year.

I think what you suggest is perfect. Get Vick and draft a young qb. Then play Vick for a year or until the wheels fall off and then you have given your prospect some time to learn and hopefully by that time they are ready.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

wow 7 years for cutler? shiiiiiet

Years are pretty irrelevant on NFL contracts. Only thing that matters is the up front money.

Most mechanics I know do work on the side for extra money. My old mechanic worked out of his garage.

I lived next to a dude who ran a business out of his garage. He was a nice guy and great mechanic too. Helped me out a few times and recommended me to places when he couldn't fix it himself.

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Joe flaccos contract had nothing to do with the ravens sucking ass this year. Anquan or no anquan we need new offense and defensive coordinators and about 3 new lineman.

If you had boldin you would've made the playoffs

 

[jakncoke]

Poor josh mccown

Wasnt there a article recently stating he was contemplating retirement anyways?

 

[Greg]

With the right coach and if surrounded by a good team I think Vick could be successful. Is he going to be a top 5 qb in the league? No, but he is still better than what most teams are going to be putting on the field next year.

I think what you suggest is perfect. Get Vick and draft a young qb. Then play Vick for a year or until the wheels fall off and then you have given your prospect some time to learn and hopefully by that time they are ready.

6 weeks

 

[Tragicomedy]

Well, the Bears just committed themselves to mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

Congrats?

 

[Purple Cheeto]

Poor josh mccown

Isn't his wife an ex playmate?

 

[yankeehater]

Cutler was far from the problem with the team this year. He put up 28 points against the Packers. With anything remotely resembling an average defense, that would have been enough to win the game and secure the North. Instead, the offense has to score 30+ every week to win. That's not sustainable, unless you play the Bears or Cowboys defense every week. If Emery can build an even somewhat competent defense, the Bears will contend next year. Of course, that's a huge if.

The point though is that by saddling the team with an albatross QB contract it will be that much more difficult to address the defense.
A huge percentage of the Bears salary cap is not committed to the offense. They are going to be forced to rebuild the defense with rookies and bargain bin guys. They should have franchised and traded Cutler, kept Mccown and drafted a young QB and thrown all available resources at fixing the defense. The Bears offense is so stacked, they dont need an $18m a year QB to make it work.

 

[Spectral Glider]

I am not sure if you could call him a rookie but James Harrison was a fucking beast in his first full year in the league and first year playing for the Steelers.

Before 07 I don't think he ever got any playing time other than some special teams.

Of course by then he was like 6 years out of college.

He did. In '04, when Porter got tossed before the kickoff of the Browns game for fighting during warmups, James had to play and got a sack. The following year, he started in 4 games (for Clark Haggans I think) and totaled 3 sacks, 1 INT and 1 fumble recovery. He also dumped that Browns fan for running onto the field. In '06, he only started in 1 game for whatever reason. And then he exploded in '07 as his first as full time starter.

 

[Tom Penny]

If you had boldin you would've made the playoffs

Truth.

 

[bionic77]

If you had boldin you would've made the playoffs

If the Niners had a qb who could read a defense they would be undefeated.

If Mike Tomlin was more than a pretty face the Steelers finish with at least 11 wins.

If wishes were fishes we would all be casting nets motherfucker.

 

[Greg]

if the Packers didn't have HoFlynn, they would've missed the playoffs

 

[Himynameischris]

Good Morning everyone, back from vacation wondering why Ross hasn't fired everyone yet....hopefully it happens today.

 

[JCizzle]

I don't even want to think about the contract that CK will be getting. Ugh.

 

[squicken]

Good Morning everyone, back from vacation wondering why Ross hasn't fired everyone yet....hopefully it happens today.

And creates Jets South?

 

[Sanjuro]

Vick is still better than what most teams have at qb. He is worth it if you get him for cheap.

He isn't better than most quarterbacks. Not by a long shot.

 

[Tom Penny]

If the Niners had a qb who could read a defense they would be undefeated.

If Mike Tomlin was more than a pretty face the Steelers finish with at least 11 wins.

If wishes were fishes we would all be casting nets motherfucker.

I don't get why you hate Tomlin. When Belichick retires with Brady send him to the Pats.

 

[Fox318]

And creates Jets South?

They wish they were the jets.

 

[Plinko]

This blackout thing is depressing for many reasons, but the main one? I think it's a clear sign that the NFL is going to go to PPV games in the very near future--maybe even after the Sunday Ticket deal with DirecTV expires after next year.

It's quite obvious the experience at the game isn't anywhere near worth the ridiculous amount of money needed to pay for the ticket, parking, etc. HD feeds are great and you don't have to spend any money if you live in the same state as your team. If you don't live in the same state (like me), NFL Sunday Ticket is cheap enough to where it may cost even less to pay for an entire season than it would to go to one game.

I think we're looking at two options: Either PPV games or NFL Sunday Ticket prices double. I see absolutely no way the NFL loses the blackout rule (FCC can't do anything about it because NFL can sign a deal with local networks) or owners lower ticket prices.

 

[chuckddd]

I don't get why you hate Tomlin. When Belichick retires with Brady send him to the Pats.

He and harson are like a walking talking Steelers fansite forum.

 

[Fantomex]

wow 7 years for cutler? shiiiiiet

This all falls on Flacco. Back in the day, only legit QB's got paid a lot. Now you can be Dragon tier and make bank.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Joe flaccos contract had nothing to do with the ravens sucking ass this year. .

True, but his play did.

This all falls on Flacco. Back in the day, only legit QB's got paid a lot. Now you can be Dragon tier and make bank.

I don't know what "Dragon Tier" is, but I gotta be worth more than that.

 

[bionic77]

I don't get why you hate Tomlin. When Belichick retires with Brady send him to the Pats.

He is slow to adjust, he can't make halftime adjustments, he doesn't understand field positioning or clock management, and he is a defensive coach and yet our defense is a fucking laughing stock at the moment.

He can still command the respect of the players and I will be damned if anyone tells me there is a sexier coach alive, but I want some more actual coaching from him.

The good news is that he is young and hopefully he is going to continue to improve over time. The bad news is that Gata is even younger and it might be just me but he seems to be getting stupider over time so maybe people just stay stupid and we are fucked.

 

[jakncoke]

This blackout thing is depressing for many reasons, but the main one? I think it's a clear sign that the NFL is going to go to PPV games in the very near future--maybe even after the Sunday Ticket deal with DirecTV expires after next year.

It's quite obvious the experience at the game isn't anywhere near worth the ridiculous amount of money needed to pay for the ticket, parking, etc. HD feeds are great and you don't have to spend any money if you live in the same state as your team. If you don't live in the same state (like me), NFL Sunday Ticket is cheap enough to where it may cost even less to pay for an entire season than it would to go to one game.

I think we're looking at two options: Either PPV games or NFL Sunday Ticket prices double. I see absolutely no way the NFL loses the blackout rule (FCC can't do anything about it because NFL can sign a deal with local networks) or owners lower ticket prices.

I dunno about double but they its definitely going to take a price hike to try and get people back in the seats. I remember when my dad first god back in the day it was like 149.99 or something, isnt it up to like 350 now?

 

[Himynameischris]

And creates Jets South?

Because we fired everyone? Wut?