Giants easily. Colts second.
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FloydtheFathead
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the answer is obviously Cleveland. A chance to hang out with BG is something we all should take advantage of.
AngmarsKing701
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Hmm. I don't see it.
If Grigson is fired, I'd rank them:
Colts (Andrew Luck is way younger than Eli and I believe this year was a fluke for him)
Giants (Defense is a mess, but Eli and OBJ make this very attractive regardless)
Titans (young potential franchise QB already, which is the most important part of a team)
Eagles (QB situation sucks)
49ers (Kap is huge ? But at least we have a fuck ton of cap space and a stable F/O, although not a patient one...Not as dysfunctional as the Browns though! and slightly less dysfunctional than the Dolphins with Ross/Tannenbaum, but feel free to disagree with me here)
Dolphins (QB situation sucks and Suh is a fucking huge cap hit)
Browns (The Coach helps hire the GM, fucking WHAT?)
If Grigson retains his job, I'd move the Giants over the Colts.
Weird, I had sent u an invite to the party but taking a break for now.
Elfforkusu
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What is actually attractive about the Eagles though? QB situation sucks, a really overpaid RB you have to deal with, a really overpaid CB you have on roster, the defense collapse at the end of the season and who do they have at WR? I mean, I guess the Philly market?
Elfforkusu
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Well, bear in mind that we're comparing them to the Dolphins, Titans, Niners, Browns. Not exactly bastions of stability.
But the Eagles' management has shown that A) they're willing to take chances on a coach they think can get the job done, but also B) that they're competent enough to pull the plug once it's obvious things aren't working. I'd say it's a better spot than most of the teams on the list.
Giants might be among the worst. Unless the new coach has attachment.
Old and crusty GAF has its moments.
FrenchMovieTheme
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the thing about the niners job is no it's not extremely attractive on the surface, but beneath jed yorks bullshit you can make on some semblance of possible interest. first off, we're going to overpay someone (jeddy has to now to attract good talent). secondly, after how god awful we were this year the new coach coming in could go 8-8 and the fanbase would probably be content. we went 5-11 but unless you watched our games i dont think you can understand just how bad we were. the last offense we had that was this bad was in 2005 when we had a rookie QB and a bunch of horrible players on the team. our defense wasn't awful overall (finished 15th in ppg) BUT there were games where it was brutally bad so there was no consistency.
at this point, knowing that the alternative was jim tomsula and his staff of losers, i will be happy with just about any coach we hire
FloydtheFathead
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So Cajun is one of the good ones?
Futurevoid
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You can interchange the Giants and Colts job as most coveted.
The Colts argument is for Luck who's a young franchise QB. The downside is there's a front office remake that needs done if Grigson is fired and the unknown of that whole situation.
The Giants argument is an established franchise QB who's won two Super Bowls but is aging at 35. Said QB has one of the most dynamic WR's in the game. You also have one if the best ownership situations in the league that value patience and stability sometimes to a fault. The downside is an entire defense that needs to be completely rebuilt and other roster issues.
I don't know what the Colts cap situation looks like but the Giants are going into 2016 with likely 50 million in free money after some very likely cuts.
The Colts argument is for Luck who's a young franchise QB. The downside is there's a front office remake that needs done if Grigson is fired and the unknown of that whole situation.
The Giants argument is an established franchise QB who's won two Super Bowls but is aging at 35. Said QB has one of the most dynamic WR's in the game. You also have one if the best ownership situations in the league that value patience and stability sometimes to a fault. The downside is an entire defense that needs to be completely rebuilt and other roster issues.
I don't know what the Colts cap situation looks like but the Giants are going into 2016 with likely 50 million in free money after some very likely cuts.
Giants as Eli is in place so all you need is to fix the defense.
Titans next as they have a franchise QB AND the best pick in the draft.
Eagles are attractive as Bradford met or matched franchise marks this year. Literally, don't get rid of your great players and the coach keeps their job.
Colts situation is tricky as the media is incapable of scrutinizing Andrew Luck so the coach gets literally all the blame no matter the outcome. Plus Andrew Luck is a coach killer the likes of which weren't seen since Jamarcus Russell, at least thus far.
9ers are somewhat attractive but they need a QB unless Chip comes through and saves the day.
Every other team is attractive to varying degrees and then there's the Browns...
Browns are the least attractive gig as the coach only gets two years to get things right and the organizational structure fucking sucks.
That's fair. I suppose none of those 4 teams have much else to offer, but I did rank the Titans above the Eagles solely because of Mariota. Having a solid QB to build on has to be really really attractive.
AngmarsKing701
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No prob. Holy Tebow I haven't played Halo mp in forever
Correction: 8 Teams Can Be Forced To Appear On Hard Knocks, Who Would You Want To See? https://t.co/07zStGbXEW
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Futurevoid
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For maximum entertainment? Rex and the Bills.
Yeah I agree, Colts and Giants are pretty interchangeable depending on what the coaching candidate is looking for. Both will likely have a long list of candidates. Not sure I trust Irsay to make a smart decision though, whereas I would trust Giants ownership much more.
Coughlin hated the idea of Hard Knocks so much he sacrificed himself just so the Giants could be ineligible.
A true Giant.
Bills or Chargers (Chargers because I think Rivers would be fun to watch).
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, I think that's the only difference between your list and how I'd rank them. Competent ownership is worth its weight in gold.
e: Not just going forward, so much of scouting and management is institutional knowledge.
Plasticine
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Da Bears would be the best. America would come to love Jay Cutler.
Well, Baalke has confirmed we won't have an in-house coaching candidate (relieved to hear it even though I highly doubt we'd ever have considered Mangini), so that's good news.
I'd start the list with
Hue Jackson (he satisfies the Rooney rule as well, but he's also #1 on my list, but he's honestly probably got his pick of coaching jobs)
Adam Gase (although if he didn't work out last year I'm not sure why Baalke would be more apt to take him now)
Sean Payton (still not as high on this one as others, but he's definitely a great offensive mind)
Kyle Shanahan (he'd be higher if the Falcons didnt crash and burn so fucking hard at the end of the season)
Mike Holmgren (I'd like the pick, but he's honestly been out of football a long while and I HIGHLY doubt Baalke goes for him unless we're left with no other options)
Zvonimir Boban
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Rams would be so boring that HBO would permanently cancel Hard Knocks after two episodes.
So anyone but them.
League wouldn't let them be selected for the show anyway, half of it would "will they/won't they stay in St. Louis" and that's not a good look for the NFL.
AngmarsKing701
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Just went 0 kills, 17 deaths.
And somehow leveled up.
Staffordesque
And somehow leveled up.
Staffordesque
AngmarsKing701
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William Gay's agent should bring that info to the bargaining table to guarantee his client the best possible contract.
Raiders
Raiders wouldn't be bad either.
I'd go Bill's due to Rex or Raiders since they seem to be on the verge of being a contendor.
Zvonimir Boban
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Shoulda got an Xbone like the cool kids.
I'm not head coaching material yet, linebackers coach is more my style right now. Defensive co-ordinator at best.
Which probably makes me overqualified for the Browns job, where do I send my application?
Hilarious way of leveling.
AngmarsKing701
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I had a couple of decent games before that one. I was just all twisted around there. Got 3 assists though. That must have been why I eked up a level.
FloydtheFathead
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Message BG for details and call the number.. You'll get a signing bonus of burning river and Bamen Noodles to sweeten the deal. Hmm?
Rams, Raiders or Chargers would be interesting if they dove into the whole new stadium storyline.
VeryGooster
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Marc Ross interviewing with the Titans. They can have him.
I'm okay with this.
Kind of glad the Texans were featured in this year's Hard Knocks. Some awesome and hilarious insight into different things not at practice.
And of course, Rick Ross.
FrenchMovieTheme
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1. hue jackson - love his offenses but he went off his rocker in oakland... i don't know. i think we need a stable experienced headcoach. but i wouldn't necessarily be heavily against this, just very risky in my eyes
2. adam gase - rumor is he had the deal with baalke, then jed stepped in and said you need to make tomsula DC, which of course gase said fuck off. IF this scenario is true, there's a chance baalke could go back this route and say hey york is hands off now (lol) so you can hire your staff. i don't see how adam gase would turn that down unless he has another head coaching job lined up (which i kind of doubt he will)
3. sean payton - sure... is he bringing alone prime drew brees as well? i wouldn't mind this hire i suppose. some people don't want to give up a 2nd round pick but who gives a shit, we can't draft well anyways. baalke will probably take another safety from a college you've never heard of anyways
4. mike shanahan (with kyle as OC?) - i guess i wouldn't hate this. don't have much more to add. it's an improvement over what we had!
5. mike holmgren - eh... i dont hate it either but he's getting up there and has been out of coaching for so long i just don't think it's the right move
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