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NFL 2015 Wild Card |OT| - A Fraud Goes Wild

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RBH

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In an aggressive move Monday to end the NFL’s two-decade absence from Los Angeles, three franchises — the Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers and St. Louis Rams — submitted relocation applications to the league on the first day they were eligible to do so.

The development was unprecedented since the Raiders and Rams left the country’s second-largest market after the 1994 season. Dozens of stadium proposals and renderings have come and gone, but this is the first time any teams have formally requested to fill the L.A. vacancy.

“We are sad to have reached this point,” the Chargers said in a statement.

A year ago Tuesday, Rams owner Stan Kroenke unveiled plans for a $1.86-billion stadium in Inglewood that would serve as the centerpiece of a 298-acre entertainment, retail and housing development at the site of the former Hollywood Park racetrack.

Six weeks later, the Chargers and Raiders, AFC West rivals, announced they were teaming on a competing project in Carson. The $1.7-billion venue would be built on a 157-acre parcel located on an old landfill adjacent to the 405 Freeway.

In an interview with the Chargers’ website, owner Dean Spanos blamed the Rams for forcing his team to take action on L.A.

“I think that is really what really was the catalyst that really got this whole thing going,” he said, “because when the Rams decided to make their move there, this was a move to protect our business more than anything. So we find ourselves where we do right now.”

The Rams issued a two-sentence statement on their website confirming their desire to relocate for 2016 season.

The applications Monday were the most predictable step in a process rife with uncertainty. But there isn’t a consensus among NFL owners on which plan to approve.

The 32 owners are convening in Houston for a special meeting next week, in hopes of taking a vote to resolve the competition. There’s a growing sense among owners that leaving teams in limbo is damaging to the league and that the matter needs to be resolved in time for the 2016 season. That would require a decision by March, at the latest, after years of false starts and dashed hopes for L.A.

In order for one of the projects to move forward, three-quarters of owners must vote for it. Only one stadium will be approved. Each proposal currently has at least nine votes to block the other. Both sides have been lobbying fellow owners for more support.

Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger, who is backing the Carson proposal and would oversee the effort if it is approved, has made calls to NFL owners on behalf of that project.

In advance of the Houston meetings, members of the stadium, finance and L.A. committees will meet at league headquarters in New York for two days this week to discuss a path forward. It’s a particularly busy time, as five of the six owners on the L.A. committee have teams in the playoffs, and the sixth, New York Giants co-owner John Mara, accepted the resignation Monday of longtime head coach Tom Coughlin.

The high-stakes emotional, financial and political nature of the L.A. conundrum is uncomfortable for the NFL, which typically takes pains to avoid pitting owner against owner. The league has made it clear that it does want not a game of musical chairs in which one or two teams are left out and forced to return empty-handed to markets they tried to leave.

Monday’s development brings the league one step closer to that possibility.

As it stands, there is not even the broad outline of a compromise -- or grand bargain -- to satisfy all three teams.

Last week, the three markets responded to the NFL’s request for their best and final stadium solutions. None was compelling enough for any of teams -- and the league cannot force an owner to accept a deal they don’t want.

St. Louis has the most advanced plan, calling for a $1.1.-billion riverfront stadium that would be paid for, in part, by public money.

“We’ve anticipated this filing from the Rams for more than a year,” the St. Louis stadium task force said in a written statement. “It’s why we started working in November 2014 to produce a viable St. Louis stadium proposal for consideration by the Rams and the National Football League. … (We) feel extremely confident that it will be well received as the league weighs its options in the weeks ahead.”

San Diego is proposing a new $1.1-billion venue on the Mission Valley site of the current Qualcomm Stadium, though the public contribution to the project would hinge on a June vote.

Oakland has not submitted a plan, but sent the league a letter expressing its desire to keep the Raiders.

“In accordance with the relocation policies, the Oakland Raiders submitted a relocation package to the NFL,” the team said on its website. “The matter is now in the hands of the NFL’s owners.”

Meanwhile, schematics are complete for the Inglewood proposal which could be ready in time for the 2018 season, with developers grading the site while finishing the permitting process. That includes ongoing negotiations with the Federal Aviation Administration to resolve the agency’s concerns that the stadium might interfere with radar at nearby Los Angeles International Airport.

The Carson project, which was significantly reworked earlier in the year to overhaul the stadium design and add extras such as a farmer’s market, isn’t as far along in the design process. The landfill remediation, overseen by the state’s Department of Toxic Substances Control, can’t be completed until plans for the site are final.

The Chargers, Raiders and Rams all played in L.A. at one point, and Carson and Inglewood were two of the original sites for stadium proposals in the mid-1990s.
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-relocation-20160105-story.html
 
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hipsterpants

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The NFL would be stupid not to have a team in STL when the government is willing to bend over backwards and spend 400 million fucking dollars of public money on it.

I'd prefer the Rams stay but the only outcome I want is for Kroenke to get screwed over. LA fans should should want Chargers/Raiders over anything Rams because he does not care about winning at all. He'll probably sign Fisher/Snead to a lifetime extension as soon as he gets there so he never has to make any effort in finding a new coach or GM.
 
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Spinluck

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Line_HTX said:
Well, Spinrag, now that both of them are back for at least two years, anything y'all want to see addressed besides O-Line?

They're keeping Frank Gore at least? Did he even have a good running year? I swear I haven't heard much of him. The most known player was TY Hilton.
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Pass rushees on defense, guards on offense.

Better cover LBs and a new #2 corner (Tohler can't cut it anymore), our rookie nickel Corner (Smith) got hurt early in the year and he looked promising.

Our rookie DE and DT Anderson and Parry were a really good run stopping duo but couldn't really generate pressure on pass plays. I think they were good picks but we need pass rushing specialist because it's really starting to take a toll on the secondary.

We need an RB to take Franks place after what I thought was a pretty good year for him, and he could've done better if the play calling wasn't so shit to start the year. AJ was garbage and our receivers just need to stop playing soft... That's about all I've got right now.

Oh, and hopefully when Luck comes back he isn't dogshit or banged up.
 
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BlackGhost

Banned
Narag said:
Dude wants out of Cleveland!
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Lol if anything he's just burning bridges and ruining future NFL oppurtunites. I think of it kinda like the Tebow situation, teams won't want to touch him because of what the media brings. teams will ask themselves if his play is worth it? I think Peter King shared his opinion that he estimated 25 of 32 teams proabably wouldn't touch him.

He's not doing himself any favors by doing this, if he really is trying to force himself out.......he'll probably realize he went about everything the wrong way one day. He dosent have self awareness

First Drake lied to me about Wiggins and now Johnson Manziel, idk what's going on.
 
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Narag

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@AdamSchefter
Cleveland Browns have requested and received permission to interview Patriots' defensive coordinator Matt Patricia, per a league source.
 
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Narag

Member
Officerrob said:
Might find himself out of the NFL
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BlackGhost said:
Lol if anything he's just burning bridges and ruining future NFL oppurtunites. I think of it kinda like the Tebow situation, teams won't want to touch him because of what the media brings. teams will ask themselves if his play is worth it? I think Peter King shared his opinion that he estimated 25 of 32 teams proabably wouldn't touch him.

First Drake lied to me about Wiggins and now Johnson Manziel, idk what's going on.
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plz we all know jerruh will take him under his wing and put him on the straight & narrow like he did greg hardy
 
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Godslay

Banned
Spinluck said:
This is a weird season, I'm just lost.
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You might be stuck in mediocrity for years to come, or maybe you won't.

We all look at the Browns and see the cycle of hire and fire and wonder at times why they don't let someone stick it out and actually try to build something.

I thought Pagano and Grigson were gone for sure. That being said they still have Luck and if they learn to work together a bit better it can still be good.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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MechDX said:
#Colts owner Jim Irsay: "Bill Polian is going into the Hall of Fame. His first four years, Ryan (Grigson) has outdone him."

Wut?
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Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
BlackGhost said:
Lol if anything he's just burning bridges and ruining future NFL oppurtunites. I think of it kinda like the Tebow situation, teams won't want to touch him because of what the media brings. teams will ask themselves if his play is worth it? I think Peter King shared his opinion that he estimated 25 of 32 teams proabably wouldn't touch him.

He's not doing himself any favors by doing this, if he really is trying to force himself out.......he'll probably realize he went about everything the wrong way one day. He dosent have self awareness

First Drake lied to me about Wiggins and now Johnson Manziel, idk what's going on.
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Wiggins is legit!

Don't make me fight you!
 
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Spinluck

Member
Godslay said:
You might be stuck in mediocrity for years to come, or maybe you won't.

We all look at the Browns and see the cycle of hire and fire and wonder at times why they don't let someone stick it out and actually try to build something.

I thought Pagano and Grigson were gone for sure. That being said they still have Luck and if they learn to work together a bit better it can still be good.
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Ninja Scooter said:
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wienke said:
Wow just saw the news.

#FreeLuck

#ComeHomeAndrew
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Guys, maybe Grigson and Pagano will learn from their mistakes, maybe they will get better at their respective jobs.

Maybe this is what lights the fire under them, to push them to be the best they can be.

Maybe this is just what the Colts need right now... I think, I'm ok with it now.
 
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Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
Nothing yet but Will Burge doesn't say shit unless he's 100% sure:

Burge saw a screen cap of a snapchat video. Pic showed Manziel and a girl(maybe few others) dancing in he thinks a hotel room. Manziel is wearing a blonde wig. Said it looks like an intentionally bad SNL skit. Burge's friend he believes in told him it's from Vegas and so is the pic of Johnny and his dog. People with snapchat video are talking with TMZ they want paid.
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darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Kave_Man said:
Nothing yet but Will Burge doesn't say shit unless he's 100% sure:
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Whole thing seems like performance art if its really in a hotel room. It's him giving Haslam and the organization the biggest fuck you instead of just asking for a trade like a sane and rational person. Something about the rumored details doesn't seem like it'd match what the video is.

TMZ not having the video yet seems absurd either way.
 
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Line_HTX

Member
Spinluck said:
Pass rushees on defense, guards on offense.

Better cover LBs and a new #2 corner (Tohler can't cut it anymore), our rookie nickel Corner (Smith) got hurt early in the year and he looked promising.

Our rookie DE and DT Anderson and Parry were a really good run stopping duo but couldn't really generate pressure on pass plays. I think they were good picks but we need pass rushing specialist because it's really starting to take a toll on the secondary.

We need an RB to take Franks place after what I thought was a pretty good year for him, and he could've done better if the play calling wasn't so shit to start the year. AJ was garbage and our receivers just need to stop playing soft... That's about all I've got right now.

Oh, and hopefully when Luck comes back he isn't dogshit or banged up.
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Yeah, it looks like y'all need something better upfront now that there's no more Freeney.

And no more INT's lol.
 
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Butts-a-plenty

Banned
Spinluck said:
Guys, maybe Grigson and Pagano will learn from their mistakes, maybe they will get better at their respective jobs.

Maybe this is what lights the fire under them, to push them to be the best they can be.

Maybe this is just what the Colts need right now... I think, I'm ok with it now.
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Godslay

Banned
Spinluck said:
Guys, maybe Grigson and Pagano will learn from their mistakes, maybe they will get better at their respective jobs.

Maybe this is what lights the fire under them, to push them to be the best they can be.

Maybe this is just what the Colts need right now... I think, I'm ok with it now.
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Everyone in the NFL wants their team to be fixed yesterday.

Problem is, building a perennial contender is a slow fix. They have the most important piece in place, and him being knocked out was probably a blessing in disguise. Now they should know what they have to do as plain as day.

So lets see if they can fix it.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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Phillip Rivers had a pretty amazing season considering he had no receivers or running backs and is playing for a garbage organization. Most underrated QB of our generation, maybe ever.
 
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The Albatross

Member
chuckddd said:
Cleve update
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Honestly... At least he's making some effort to hide it... Progress?

Ninja Scooter said:
Phillip Rivers had a pretty amazing season considering he had no receivers or running backs and is playing for a garbage organization. Most underrated QB of our generation, maybe ever.
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GOing to echo this.

Rivers is, sadly, going to be lost in the collective memory of transcendent QBs because the Chargers failed to give him a solid team at nearly any time in his career... ANd when they did, he typically had great success regular season success. It's a damn shame, but also pretty much justifies Archie Manning's desire to have Eli not play in San Diego. They're just not dedicated to putting a competitive team on the field.
 
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Tabris

Member
Godslay said:
Tabris still hasn't committed to a Bronco's win this post-season no matter who starts at QB.

Until he does, we can't repair our relationship. One step at a time.
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You have this backwards. You get on my train, I don't get on your train.

You're lost your ticket and the train is about to leave. Better hit up craigslist to see if you can get a scalped ticket.
 
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