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NFL 2015 Wild Card |OT| - A Fraud Goes Wild

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AbortedWalrusFetus

Member
eznark said:
I think Hundley is at least two seasons away from even being a guy I'd ever consider dressing as the backup, but I do love his potential and how quickly he learned from rookie camp to pre-season. It was night and day. Supposedly that progression has not continued at such a ludicrous and exponential rate however and he has sort of tailed off. But that's based on like the two reports a month you get on bottom chart guys so who knows. Pretty much can't say anything about him until next Spring.

I'd be pissed if the Packers gave him away for nothing, but I'd be cool with trading him for a third. If someone thinks he can start in the NFL in 2016 they are fucking insane...or just don't want to win football games.
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No, I think he'd be a developmental guy until 2017 at the earliest. 2016 is a lost season, start Sanchez for all I care.
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
yankeehater said:
Hey buddy lots of talk in Philly about Austin being a guy they are really interested in. You can squicken to the Eagles if they hire him.
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I'm trying to put aside my Lions bias aside but Teryl Austin is going to make a hell of a head coach wherever he goes. He is IMO the best coaching candidate available and was being interviewed last year after his first season as a DC.

He was the guy calling defensive plays in 2014 when our defense was 2nd in the league and Top 10 historically against stopping the run.

We lost our two best defensive players in Suh and DeAndre Levy (one through free agency and the other through injury) and a lot of defenders through injury and he still coaches and puts guys in positions to win through his playcalling and schemes.

One way to tell how a defense responds to a Coach is how they fly to wherever the ball is and the effort made in tackling the ball carrier. I'm on my phone right now but there's plenty of articles and analytical articles on his brilliance.

eznark said:
Think in his first press conference he will say "I'm not a football guy" ?
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Rod Wood was hired to handle the financial side of the Detroit Lions.

One thing that went under reported since Martha Ford pretty much took over was how she and the family want more control of the team via media and the money being made.

97.1 The Ticket has been doing Lions games on radio for years but the Bears game was the last that station will be doing. Radio broadcasting from here on out will be done through DetroitLions.com.

Former Giants, Colts and Browns GM Ernie Accorsi is handling the General Managing hiring and the move was widely praised by various media outlets.

While on topic of finances, if investing in stock for the football future, I'm buying Detroit Lions stocks for 2016-2017 and selling Green Bay Packer stock.

Enjoy the one and done playoff run, it's all for naught if you're not hoisting the Lombardi Trophy at the end of the season.
 
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Tabris

Member
Godslay said:
High five Tabris?
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Don't waste your time otherwise you'll be like Brady

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Godslay

Banned
Tabris said:
Don't waste your time otherwise you'll be like Brady

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Come on back to Bronco's country. There's no reason to play with yourself over there.

We've got Manning, Brock, CJ, Kubes, Von. Why don't you want to be a part of the Broncos with us?

Stop playing these games and snuggle in.
 
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Sweeney Tom

Banned
Those two having a full nearly-two-day-long conversation is worse than anything any of you frauds thought ever happened in the offseason thread #ImpeachAllYallFrauds
 
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Squall ASF

Member
chuckddd said:
Who was the coach when the Cards actually went to a SB? Where did he come from?
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You're kidding, right? Whisenhunt was trash. He was the D'Antoni of the Cardinals. A scrub masquerading as a great HC thanks to the amazing field general that was the true leader and reason for the success. Just as Nash hid D'Antoni's lack of competence with his amazing court general skills. Two future HOFers and I promise you those fraud coaches had fuck all to do with it.
eznark said:
Nothing will ever top the Badgers winning their first Rose Bowl.
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Except when the Brewers win the World Series.........
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I'm prepared to pay whatever to get into the SB if we make it and I will shed some tears if we win. The feels will be real. Also, somewhat of a shame I never got all that into Baseball because then I'd know what it feels like for a team you love to win it all. I support the Diamondbacks but I just don't have the fucks for the sport that I do for the NFL or even the NBA. My father says the DBs are really well posed to be a top team next season because pitching was the only place we weren't stacked and now after the big FA signing, we have a great pitcher. Maybe I'll try to follow the next season more, a young team going from shite to success would be fun to watch.
 
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Draxal

Member
Mara' interview with Francessa is interesting.

Pretty much the last two drafts saved Reese's hide.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing 2015, the Giants had Beckham and Richburg (both really strong picks). Then Bromley and Williams ..... Than Berhe (Hurt all season) Kennard (good if healthy but health will always be the #1 concern with him) Jackson (Hurt all season).

This year, Flowers wasn't great but he was playing hurt. Collins was okay, but hopefully will improve with a stronger FS partner, Odi (hurt), Thompson (hurt), Davis (hurt), Hart (didn't get any burn).

They really have to do something with the training staff.
 
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eznark

Banned
Squall ASF said:
You're kidding, right? Whisenhunt was trash. He was the D'Antoni of the Cardinals. A scrub masquerading as a great HC thanks to the amazing field general that was the true leader and reason for the success. Just as Nash hid D'Antoni's lack of competence with his amazing court general skills. Two future HOFers and I promise you those fraud coaches had fuck all to do with it.

I'm prepared to pay whatever to get into the SB if we make it and I will shed some tears if we win. The feels will be real. Also, somewhat of a shame I never got all that into Baseball because then I'd know what it feels like for a team you love to win it all. I support the Diamondbacks but I just don't have the fucks for the sport that I do for the NFL or even the NBA. My father says the DBs are really well posed to be a top team next season because pitching was the only place we weren't stacked and now after the big FA signing, we have a great pitcher. Maybe I'll try to follow the next season more, a young team going from shite to success would be fun to watch.
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I wept in the Miller Park stands when the Brewers made the playoffs on 9/28/08. Along with thousands of other grown men and women. It was rad. Sitting at Miller Park after the game watching the Marlins beat the Mets on the jumbotron as the players all sat on the field watching with us to clinch the spot for the Brewers. So great. Unforgettable moment.
 
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Bowser

Member
Draxal said:
Mara' interview with Francessa is interesting.

Pretty much the last two drafts saved Reese's hide.
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Am I missing something? What came out of them besides OBJ? Didn't think Flowers looked all that great this season (although admittedly haven't seen much of him).
 
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Bowser

Member
Ed Werder @Edwerderespn
#Browns traveling to Charlotte to interview #Panther DC Sean McDermott on Thursday night. Expected to be candidate with #Eagles too
 
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Draxal

Member
Bowser said:
Am I missing something? What came out of them besides OBJ? Didn't think Flowers looked all that great this season (although admittedly haven't seen much of him).
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Richburg is solid, Flowers is playing hurt, but I kinda agree with you.

I did an analysis but it was edited in after you responded, but I"m not nearly as high on the drafts as Mara is.
 
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Squall ASF

Member
eznark said:
I wept in the Miller Park stands when the Brewers made the playoffs on 9/28/08. Along with thousands of other grown men and women. It was rad. Sitting at Miller Park after the game watching the Marlins beat the Mets on the jumbotron as the players all sat on the field watching with us to clinch the spot for the Brewers. So great. Unforgettable moment.
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That's cool, man. I so badly want to know what it feels like. As bad as the Cards have been most of our existence I know there'd be tons of fans around me feeling the same way I would and it would be special to share that moment.
 
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Line_HTX

Member
I just pray and hope that Houston has a great defensive game plan.

Please just beat the fucking Chiefs. I honestly do not care if we lose in the Divisional, just do NOT be one and done.



OH MY GOD, SPINHO, FUCK OFF, YOU BITCH ASS.
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Squall ASF said:
You're kidding, right? Whisenhunt was trash. He was the D'Antoni of the Cardinals. A scrub masquerading as a great HC thanks to the amazing field general that was the true leader and reason for the success. Just as Nash hid D'Antoni's lack of competence with his amazing court general skills. Two future HOFers and I promise you those fraud coaches had fuck all to do with it.

I'm prepared to pay whatever to get into the SB if we make it and I will shed some tears if we win. The feels will be real. Also, somewhat of a shame I never got all that into Baseball because then I'd know what it feels like for a team you love to win it all. I support the Diamondbacks but I just don't have the fucks for the sport that I do for the NFL or even the NBA. My father says the DBs are really well posed to be a top team next season because pitching was the only place we weren't stacked and now after the big FA signing, we have a great pitcher. Maybe I'll try to follow the next season more, a young team going from shite to success would be fun to watch.
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:4lokos

Nothing is more quaint than people who think that coaching doesn't matter. Maybe, MAYBE, you can get away with that shit in basketball because there's 2 or 3 guys who matter on the entire team. Never in football.
 
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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Kastrioti said:
97.1 The Ticket has been doing Lions games on radio for years but the Bears game was the last that station will be doing. Radio broadcasting from here on out will be done through DetroitLions.com.
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Wait, what? Didn't they just move to a different station? How is the website involved?
 
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yankeehater

Member
The problem with the Eagles is not Chip Kelly – it’s Jeffrey Lurie:

After 22 years of futility, Jeffrey Lurie remains unscathed, delivering his pompous message with no backlash from the most vocal and demanding sports city in America. How many more lost seasons will it take for everyone to see the truth about the Eagles?

The problem with this franchise – now 55 consecutive years without a championship – is not the current scapegoat, ex-coach Chip Kelly. It is not the former president Joe Banner. And it is not even the reborn front-office executive Howie Roseman. It is also not the players, not the media and not the fans.

The real problem with the Eagles is the billionaire owner of the team, Jeffrey Lurie.

Lurie made another bold change last week when he fired Chip Kelly. The owner did so with psychobabble about “emotional intelligence” and other thinly veiled insults to the intelligence of a fan base as loyal as any in professional sports. As usual, the owner was too busy using ten-dollar terms instead of dealing with the reality of the situation.

These are the simple truths Lurie refused to acknowledge:

He hated Chip Kelly
As reported here for the past year, Kelly made the dangerous mistake of forcing the demotion of Lurie’s most valued confidant, Roseman, a sports executive who has distinguished himself only by his skill at office politics. Kelly could not afford to embarrass the owner’s biggest ally and then suffer a losing season. It’s that simple.

He loves Howie Roseman
The fact that Lurie quietly reinstated Roseman as the personnel guru – the owner merely said “Howie will retain his title as executive vice-president of football operations” – is not just a stupid decision, it is a tone-deaf one. Fans know how inept Roseman is – see: first-round draft picks Danny Watkins and Marcus Smith – but the owner still doesn’t.

The team is rudderless
Now Lurie is looking for another coach, and he is doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Already, he has assigned the same search committee – himself, Roseman and president Don Smolenski – that failed so badly the last time. The Eagles will pay Kelly $13 million not to coach the team the next two years, and Lurie sees no reason to change the process?

Lurie is incompetent
Lurie’s implication that he is more hands-on than ever – meeting individually with players, communicating daily with coaches – is the worst possible direction for the Eagles. Just listen to Lurie. Does anybody really believe he is making a connection with the people who work for him?

Until Jeffrey Lurie identifies the real cause of the problem – himself – there will be no parades down Broad Street for the Eagles.
Fans have been willing to give Lurie the benefit of the doubt because the owner is not obnoxious like Dallas nightmare Jerry Jones or a money-grubber like Sixers carpetbagger Joshua Harris. In fact, Lurie has been a terrific owner in important areas, including work in the community, human rights and ecology.

He’s even smart enough to know not to appear often in public, to avoid reminding the paying customers that he is nothing like them. Unfortunately, Lurie is not smart enough to realize that he needs to find someone to run his team who is neither a friend from childhood like Banner nor a gladhander like Roseman.

Lurie said he conducted a three-year evaluation of Chip Kelly and decided that the coach would not achieve the franchise’s only goal, a championship. Now the owner needs to undertake a more elaborate project, a 22-year evaluation of his own performance.

Until he looks critically at his role in the failure of the team, the Eagles are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past generation. Until Jeffrey Lurie identifies the real cause of the problem – himself – there will be no parades down Broad Street for the Eagles.

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Chip Kelly didn’t deserve to be fired after less than three seasons as coach of the Eagles. There, I said it. At least somebody finally did.

Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I acknowledge an appreciation of Kelly which exceeds that of most media members, because he was a weekly guest on my WIP radio show, and even placed a personal call to me after his firing But I was also the one who told him I could have won as many games coaching his team this season as he did. I’d like to believe I saw the good and the bad in the coach.

The bad elements became clear this year. Kelly was stubborn – to a fault – about his philosophy, he never figured out how to bond with his NFL players, he stayed loyal to the worst defensive coordinator in the NFL (Billy Davis), and he was an absolute disaster as a GM. A 6-9 record this season didn’t help, either, especially with his snarky attitude.

However, Kelly left the Eagles last week with a 26-21 record, no small achievement after taking over a 4-12 team in turmoil during the final year of Andy Reid’s tenure. Kelly’s feat of making the playoffs in his rookie NFL season was an extraordinary accomplishment, by any measurement.

Kelly also came to Philadelphia with no franchise quarterback in place – an old, battered Michael Vick and a young, immobile Nick Foles were his only options – two cancers in his locker room (DeSean Jackson and LeSean McCoy) and a racial crisis involving Riley Cooper just before his first training camp.

Somehow, Kelly turned that mess into a 10-6 team that took New Orleans into the final minutes of the playoffs two years ago. The coach then repeated that 10-6 mark last year, before his own failings as a GM sabotaged the just-ended season.

Chip Kelly is a good coach. A smarter owner would have presented Kelly with an ultimatum: You can keep coaching my team, but I’m finding a new GM. If Kelly declined that offer, then Jeffrey Lurie would have had no choice but to replace Kelly in both roles. The guess here is that Kelly would have accepted the demotion.

But Lurie never presented that scenario to Kelly because it would have kept the owner’s favorite ally, Howie Roseman, in exile. In other words, Lurie chose Roseman over Kelly. The owner favored a GM who failed repeatedly in that role for five years over a coach who had one bad season.

Chip Kelly deserved a smarter decision than the one Lurie made last week. As fans, we all did. Just ask yourself this question: Who has a better chance of winning a championship in the NFL, Chip Kelly or Howie Roseman?

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The best choice to replace Chip Kelly is obvious. If Sean Payton gets fired in New Orleans, he would be perfect here. He has roots in the Philadelphia area, is a brilliant offensive innovator and owns a Super Bowl ring.

Of course, Payton will not be the next Eagles coach, nor will any of the other candidates with a winning NFL pedigree. Jeffrey Lurie made certain of that last week when he reinstated his “collaborative” approach to building a team. The sad truth is, no established coach is going to place his fate in the hands of clueless GM Howie Roseman.

Consider the other possibilities. Would Jim Harbaugh leave Michigan to take over a losing team, knowing his player preferences could be overruled by the man who drafted Marcus Smith in the first round? Would Jim’s brother, John, take the job if Baltimore fires him? What about Bill Cowher, Brian Billick, Nick Saban? Anybody?

Not a chance. By process of elimination, the Eagles will have their choice of another college coach or an NFL assistant. People like Sean McDermott in Carolina (already a major bust here as a defensive coordinator), Josh McDaniels in New England (thank you, Tom Brady) or Adam Gase in Chicago (who will have offers than do not include Roseman.)

Do you see the problem yet? A coach with a positive track record will not accept the current personnel arrangement on the Eagles, and a lesser one will represent a major gamble for the franchise. And if that young guy somehow succeeds, it’s just a matter of time before he wants the same power that ruined the tenure of Chip Kelly.

The bottom line is, this search for a new Eagles coach is already doomed.

Happy New Year.

And finally ...

• Interim coach Pat Shurmur did the Eagles no favors by beating the Giants, 35-30, on Sunday. Instead of a winnable game against the Rams in London, the 2016 Eagles now get another doomed trip to Seattle. They will also draft 13th instead of 10th. Thanks for nothing, Pat. Now turn in your playbook. You’re fired.

• The NFL’s diversity requirements for hiring a head coach make sense, but the Eagles’ decision to interview Duce Staley last week was ridiculous. First of all, Staley has no experience beyond his role here as running-back coach. Second, the running backs underperformed this season. Staley will not be the Eagles’ head coach. So what’s the point?

• The most bizarre story in the aftermath of Chip Kelly’s firing was the report by Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports that Jeffrey Lurie became incensed when the coach forced the owner to change the date of the office Christmas party last month. OK, a show of hands, please. Is there anybody left who thinks Lurie is a good owner??

• When so many other Eagles ran and hid, tackle Lane Johnson was open and honest about the firing of Chip Kelly. "Maybe the ego got in the way. Too much power. Control. Not being human about things; not working together, with the team, instead of being a dictator.” There’s a word to describe players willing to speak publicly that way – leader.

• Boy, it sure was great to have ex-Eagle quarterback Donovan McNabb offer his views last week on the chaos gripping his former team, wasn’t it? (He said Philadelphia is a very demanding city.) How lucky are we that he got out of jail for DUI just in time to offer his insights?
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