yankeehater
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LOL, lets see dougie even make the playoffs before we proclaim that he will go farther then Chip did.
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NFL 2017 Week 1 |OT| - Look, Are You Ready for Some Football?
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LOL, lets see dougie even make the playoffs before we proclaim that he will go farther then Chip did.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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It's my bold prediction and I'm sticking with it. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I think I'll be right.
Himynameischris
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Y'all couldn't handle the wild cat
You need to go back to 3rd grade, I'll have to speak with Bionic about this.
There was obviously a drop off, but thats a special circumstance. They were still a good team after losing their starting QB.
Alligatorjandro
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They won 5 fewer games
The Albatross
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This is the first NFL season that I haven't had a major cable/dish provider. I switched over to YouTube TV last month, and so I'm anxious to see how this holds up with the NFL.
There's already a few oddities, like how you can stream just about anything on any device you own, but if you try to stream NFL football on your phone or tablet, Verizon blocks it out because they have exclusive phone streaming rights (which is insane), yet you can broadcast that same stream to your TV, or watch it on your computer....
It's so asinine.
Only thing I'll miss is Red Zone really, and we'll see about everything else. I won't have NFL network either but NFL network seemingly puts almost all of their stuff on YouTube, and highlights of games are on YOuTube within minutes of the finish... so I'll probably be alright.
Yeah, this is something I like to reiterate when the Brady -> Cassel season comes up as a reason for why Brady isn't great, or something. The argument goes, "New England was still good and Cassel obviously sucks so BRady isn't that big of a difference," but the difference is 5 wins between Brady and Cassell, which is pretty damn significant.
For instance, Miami went 10-6 last year with Ryan Tannehill (for almost all of the season), going to the playoffs. Tannehill is out this whole year. If Miami goes 5-11 this year, then that's going to seem like a massive drop off and people would think "Wow, Tannehill is really value to the Dolphins... they're a playoff team with him and they're a terrible team without him." But it's still 5 games. Likewise, the Patriots in 2007 were 16-0 with Brady, and then with almost the same team a year later, they were 11-5, a difference of 5 games, and one team that went to the Super Bowl and another team that didn't make the playoffs.
LAst year the Colts were what, 8-8 with Andrew Luck (or 8-7, he didn't start the one game), and let's say Andrew Luck is somehow out for the season or misses most of the games this year, and they go 3-13, people would consider that a huge drop off.
Another example is the 2015 Denver Broncos, who went 12-4 with Peyton Manning and Bork as QB, first in the AFC. And then the next year, they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs with Trevor Simian. A lot of people would consider the 2015->2016 Broncos a huge step back, from being a dominant AFC team and eventual Super Bowl winner, and then finishing 3rd in their division and missing the playoffs. But that's just a difference of 3 games, it's about ~40% less of a dropoff than 2007 New England (with Brady) to 2008 New England (without Brady), and of course the Patriots were the dominant AFC team in 2007, famously lost that Super Bowl, and then finished 3rd in their division the next year.
There's already a few oddities, like how you can stream just about anything on any device you own, but if you try to stream NFL football on your phone or tablet, Verizon blocks it out because they have exclusive phone streaming rights (which is insane), yet you can broadcast that same stream to your TV, or watch it on your computer....
It's so asinine.
Only thing I'll miss is Red Zone really, and we'll see about everything else. I won't have NFL network either but NFL network seemingly puts almost all of their stuff on YouTube, and highlights of games are on YOuTube within minutes of the finish... so I'll probably be alright.
Yeah, this is something I like to reiterate when the Brady -> Cassel season comes up as a reason for why Brady isn't great, or something. The argument goes, "New England was still good and Cassel obviously sucks so BRady isn't that big of a difference," but the difference is 5 wins between Brady and Cassell, which is pretty damn significant.
For instance, Miami went 10-6 last year with Ryan Tannehill (for almost all of the season), going to the playoffs. Tannehill is out this whole year. If Miami goes 5-11 this year, then that's going to seem like a massive drop off and people would think "Wow, Tannehill is really value to the Dolphins... they're a playoff team with him and they're a terrible team without him." But it's still 5 games. Likewise, the Patriots in 2007 were 16-0 with Brady, and then with almost the same team a year later, they were 11-5, a difference of 5 games, and one team that went to the Super Bowl and another team that didn't make the playoffs.
LAst year the Colts were what, 8-8 with Andrew Luck (or 8-7, he didn't start the one game), and let's say Andrew Luck is somehow out for the season or misses most of the games this year, and they go 3-13, people would consider that a huge drop off.
Another example is the 2015 Denver Broncos, who went 12-4 with Peyton Manning and Bork as QB, first in the AFC. And then the next year, they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs with Trevor Simian. A lot of people would consider the 2015->2016 Broncos a huge step back, from being a dominant AFC team and eventual Super Bowl winner, and then finishing 3rd in their division and missing the playoffs. But that's just a difference of 3 games, it's about ~40% less of a dropoff than 2007 New England (with Brady) to 2008 New England (without Brady), and of course the Patriots were the dominant AFC team in 2007, famously lost that Super Bowl, and then finished 3rd in their division the next year.
Again, they went from being undefeated in the regular season, to keeping a majority of that lineup, to not making the playoffs that year. That's a pretty big drop off. Wonder what could explain it.
The QB being gone and the historic 18-1 season before.
Im not saying Tom Brady isnt a great QB. Im saying most teams cant survive a 3-5 game drop-off. Its why Kellys first two seasons in the NFL are impressive.
The Pats were so much worse after Brady went down that they couldn't even beat the wildcat Dolphins
The Albatross
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Yeah, absolutely. Denver's fall off the map last season is evidence of that. Manning wasn't even very good for most of the 2015 season, but those 3 losses took them from clear #1 in the AFC and eventual Super Bowl winners (though not favorites going into the game) to an also-ran in the AFC West.
The Giants are talking a lot of crap this offseason
https://twitter.com/HelmanDC/status/905496235343269894
David Helman said:
https://twitter.com/HelmanDC/status/905496235343269894
Updated:Garrett will undergo further exams on injured rt ankle, likely an MRI. Source says #Browns fear missed games http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/browns_myles_garrett_leaves_pr.html
Himynameischris
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The whole "5 game drop off" suggests the pats were going undefeated again with Brady.
Might I remind everyone that only one team has gone undefeated all the way in the Superbowl Era...
(and only 3 teams during the season)
smh Bill is a fraud
Might I remind everyone that only one team has gone undefeated all the way in the Superbowl Era...
(and only 3 teams during the season)
smh Bill is a fraud
The whole "5 game drop off" suggests the pats were going undefeated again with Brady.
Might I remind everyone that only one team has gone undefeated all the way in the Superbowl Era...
(and only 3 teams during the season)
smh Bill is a fraud
They would've been closer to 16-0 if not 16-0 again considering they'd be working with prime Tom Brady coming off of an MVP year, retaining their lineup, and having the easiest schedule in the league.
Himynameischris
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These are win totals after 2007
11
10
14
13
12
12
12
12
14
They are a lot closer to 11 than to 16.
16 wins was an anomaly and nothing more. The pats aren't "5 wins" better with Brady.
To be fair, Tall wasn't alive yet when the Pats went 16-0.
We lost our 2007 core after the 08 season. Losing people like Moss was huge
They are a better team with Tom Brady, but look at the beginning of last season during Bradys suspension for cheating. Belicheat makes things work.
Himynameischris
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True, he probably read about it from the pats website.
Too bad that win was illegitimate!
Shit Myles Garrett getting an MRI on ankle he injured today.
Take me away
What's illegitimate about the Seacawks choosing to pass on the 1 yard line
No they definitely won! My dad called me out of school that day and brought me to the parade.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
They barely won 2 games, had a blowout and got shutout.
They pretty much dominated with Brady back.
Himynameischris
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Are you sure you didn't dream this? Or see it in a commercial?
Have you ever heard of the ideal gas law?
That was for acquiring Isaiah Thomas, the GOAT Celtic.
I'm sure, I remember telling my dad "I know I'm awake but it feels like I'm in a dream."
Alligatorjandro
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Damn that is peak Browns
They also had a bottom 10 offense in the league, when Brady came back they were top 3
Supha_Volt
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All I can say is go 9ers and try not to drink the hand sanitizer on my desk. I think it'll be a better year coming from last year...
BlackGhost
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No worries, time to becleve my boy back to health
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Why cant Kave be happy?
Exactly!
But Kave is always with Texans GAF in spirit. He believes in Tom Savage
FloydtheFathead
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Hey guys what's..
*sees thread*
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I wanna die.. kill me.. goddamn it..
*sees thread*
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I wanna die.. kill me.. goddamn it..
I have heard from sources close to BG that he is resorting to blood magic to make Myles "His" Garrett healthy again.
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When you BeCleve again, and you go 8-8. Then he will return, and not before."
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When you BeCleve again, and you go 8-8. Then he will return, and not before."
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