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NFL Draft 2015 |OT| With the First Pick in the 2015 NFL Draft
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Why is he holding the NCAA football?
Roland_Gunner
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I can't imagine Collins slipping past the 4th round unless there is more to the story that we don't know about. Even if he winds up in jail a 4th is worth the risk.
A 7th at best. No one is risking a valued commodity in the league like draft picks on potential long term prison time this close after the Aaron hernandez trial
he always made me laugh on twitterTom Crabtree officially retired today.
and the back and forth between him and Rodgers
hello, cuevas, I hope you are well
I thought Jarvis Jones was going to be a stud, I've heard it's not worked out so far.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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A maybe franchise QB or the existence of a pass rush is the realistic choices. Curry and Cox were responsible for something like 1/3 of the sacks, and Cox enabled a large portion of the rest of them. Get rid of those two and you are left with Ced Thornton and Brandon Bair who had a whole two sacks between them. You will completely lose the interior pass rush, then offenses can occupy the LBs, and then the WRs will have all day to try to get separation. You can only get rid of Cox or Curry, I don't think you can get rid of both.
Grover Cleveland
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I just can't wait for Panthers Nation to melt down when they take a safety in the first round instead of reaching for a tackle or receiver even though Papa Getts has been screaming BPA for three months.
DJ Swearinger is on the trading block
I hold out hope hes going to discover a inner animal and going beast this year
At the very least, Winston seems a lot more polished as a passer than Russell was. Everyone knew Russell was really raw, and he racked up numbers thanks to his huge arm and wide-open LSU recievers. You could tell though that he had some trouble making decisions if you watched him play. Don't get that same sense with Jameis, so I think the Russell comps are being made simply because they have similar body types and have character issues.
ViperVisor
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I see a bit of Mark Sanchez in Winston's erratic play.
Roland_Gunner
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Every year a huge percentage of 4th round picks was out. If you have a chance to get a 1st round talent there, even one that may go to jail, its well worth the risk IMO. Here is where the top 4th round picks from 2013 are after two years:
1. Matt Barkley: Looks like a career back up and has lost the #2 job to the Sanchize.
2. Nico Johnson: Lost to the Bengals as a practice squad claim. Hasn't played much due to injuries
3. Akeem Spence: Started as a rookie then lost the job last year. Also busted for weed. Not much of a future unless he turns it around.
4. Ace Sanders: #5 wide receiver on a terrible team.
5. Josh Boyce: Spent most of the season the practice squad. Only on the active roster when other guys got hurt.
I'd take Collins upside over any of those guys.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This is bizarre. Not defending Winston but the notion that guys can't change when they enter the league is absurd. Otherwise Cam Newton would still be stealing laptops and Peyton Manning would still be sexual harassing women.
I don't mind whatever move Getts make. I just hope we don't waste a 1st round pick on Shaq Thompson. Dude is overrated, he can be had in the 2nd round and he should honestly just switch to RB in the league.
The_Darkest_Red
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Agreed. I totally think he's worth risking a fourth on.
lol please be dumb enough to take him Saints
If someone is flying up your board on draft day, your front office is Browns tier.
yellowjacket25
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You could have said the same thing about Cam Newton and he has been fine as a professional. Winston is a bit of an enigma. He does have maturity issues and has put himself in bad situations off the field but at the same time he was a good student in high school and college, played multiple sports, and had a good reputation as a hard worker in everything he was doing. Personally, I think he will be fine in the NFL.
Browns? Most likely the Browns
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Don't buy that about Petty. Seriously doubt anyone is dumb enough to take him in the 1st, even the Browns.
The_Darkest_Red
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I'd rather take a risk on character issues (not including stupidity, laziness, and/or a lack of interest in football) than drug problems. Dion Jordan didn't have any character issues coming out of college that I know of...
SocksAndShoes
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Yeah, this has to be a smokescreen. I watched a lot of Baylor games last year and Petty is not an NFL starter IMO. Comes from an obscenely simple one-read system, bad pocket awareness, average arm...not seeing it.
Wouldn't that also be a concern for Mariota and any other spread QB out of college? I'd have the same concern with Petty.
Himynameischris
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He got drafted by Jeff Ireland and the Dolphins, dude was doomed from the start
I can see a team trading with the Pats to take a qb at 32. Either Petty or Hundley. If you get him in the first, rather than the second, you get an extra year on the rookie contract.
TheJollyCorner
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I need this in my life.
Preeeeeeetty good chance you're going to have this in your life by roughly 7:15pm CST today.
The_Darkest_Red
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My sleeper QB for this draft is Shane Carden. Not the most athletically gifted guy in the world but DEM INTANGIBLES.
It's true.
Alligatorjandro
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I like how he brought the Seahawks back to win Superbowl 49.
Makes sense. The money is pretty similar between top of the second vs bottom of the first for QBs.
Bridgewater got 4 years $6.85 million
Carr got 4 years $5.4 million
I agree. Second best QB in the league behind Rodgers
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Mech, I respect you, but there's no way he's better than Luck.
I actually #disrespect you
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Are they drafting their Steve Young this year?
The_Darkest_Red
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Yup, that drive was masterful. Shame Bevell flushed it down the toilet as he usually does.
Don't think we're moving up far enough to get Mariota. Or moving up at all, for that matter.
sf2fanatic
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I'm ready for Titans to introduce Leonard Williams tonight. Also
no twitter action plz
Winston-Leftwich and Winston-Russell are not a lazy as everyone thinks
Both Russell and Winston are a little doughy and both guys played for Jimbo Fisher
If you asked any NFL fan "which QB is notorious for his long windup?", the answer would be Byron Leftwich. Winston has a windup in his delivery. Leftwich was almost comically unathletic, and Winston tested awful at the Combine
The best case/worst case comparison for Jameis is Big Ben. The problem is no one knew much about Ben when he was drafted, so no one remembers the college career and the pre-draft knocks on him. Also rape
No one ever seems to know that Manning story.
They did a great job $$covering$$$it$$$up$$$$$.
Well, duh. They aren't going to ask for anything less than a huge haul at this point. We'll see how far down they come once those seconds are ticking off the clock.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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My draft dinner tonight is filet mignon with asparagus. To wash it down I think I will crack open my Glenlivet 15.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah Peyton was lucky the internet barely even existed on a mainstream level when he entered the draft.
Posted in the other thread.
The Falcons give the Seahawks a 3rd or 4th rounder to the Seahawks for Irvin, take Gurley at 8, then pickup Ray or Gregory at 42.
Gurley is a low 1st rounder IMO. Trade down if they want Gurley
sf2fanatic
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Oh sheeiit we may get either
Rivers or Brees
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