Future Roethlisberger backup. I like it.
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NFL Off-Season |OT2| My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Draft
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Future Roethlisberger backup. I like it.
Futurevoid
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Reese and Ross during the 2013 draft:LJ11 said:
Buckethead
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I will trust your opinion and buy the seazin pass.
TheLegendary
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I didnt buy the season pass either for the same reason. Didnt know what to expect and I was pissed Jurassic Park turned out so badly.
I'd buy it individually or try the demo first just in case, but it's definitely no Jurassic Park. I think it'll just cost an extra 5 if you buy them separately, right?
Ninja Scooter
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Teddy Bruschi is smaller than Tim Hasselbeck. I don't understand.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
His hands are bigger.
Buckethead
Banned
Yep I think so.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Oh god...
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Fucking Seahawks
No. Only talking copious amounts of shit in this thread can qualify you for that picture.
Or being an outspoken lifelonger.
I'm not even sure that guy is coming to the Steelers. BTSC may have jumped the gun on that one and I fell for it. Sorry.
Squall ASF
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I think the whole Irvin thing is bullshit and they're just trying to placate enraged fans. Oh, the Packers wanted him? Jets would have taken him right after our pick? He must be good after all! Great job FO!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I am now an honorary Seahawks fan.
How much draft analysis ends up being correct?
Like 25%?
It is a crapshoot most of the time. The scouts and the "analysts" use the same language and often seem to be reading from the same script. The people who actually know anything are paid to find those players for the NFL and they don't usually blog about it on ESPN.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Me too.
Peter King's "award" was based on filling needs and using picks smartly. The Niners did both of those, by drafting players in positions that were weaknesses last year and trading picks to get more picks, without sacrificing the present. Everyone knows (and King admits) that grading drafts is a crapshoot, but you can still have a "good" draft even before there are on-field results.
Buddy Nix had the best quotes, I'm sure that much is true. Some hardcore fan needs to create a page with his one liners, dude is pretty funny.
Edit: Why did you pick Bradham? "This guys looks like Tarzan, he's all cut up."
Sanchize is gonna take Tebow's virginity and he will never be the same again!
BTW, kinda odd that you're a Jets fan living in NC and I'm a Panthers fan living in NYC. It's like Freaky Friday or something!
I was visiting NC. I don't live there.
Not as cool anymore
https://twitter.com/#!/TKras/status/197055672045670400
lol, I think Mark's about to be severely reprimanded or out of a job soon (he's the Panthers' "Director of Player Engagement"). Hurney don't like people leakin' his shit!
yankeehater
Member
Not as cool anymore
https://twitter.com/#!/TKras/status/197055672045670400
lol, I think Mark's about to be severely reprimanded or out of a job soon (he's the Panthers' "Director of Player Engagement"). Hurney don't like people leakin' his shit!
Didnt everyone have Barron higher? I dont see them getting to pissed about that.
I agree.
Jets needed pass rush more than anything but if Barron was still around they would have drafted him 1st.
Well at the presser Thursday night Hurney was saying that Keek was #1 on their board (I know, every GM says that, but it certainly seemed true as the Panthers turned the pick in in about 20 seconds). This would kind of fly in the face of that. Also, Hurney is one of those paranoid freaks who hates leaks from unnamed sources. Now he's got a guy who's publicly saying something that directly contradicts what he said at the presser.
edit: not to mention it's basically telling Keek he wasn't the guy the team really wanted
Ninja Scooter
Member
Why is the media so hung up on this Cousins pick? Was it probably a dumb decision? Yeah. But people act like it's creating a "QB controversy"? LOL RG3 is the future. Cousins is just a potential back up who they are hoping to parlay into future value.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
It was definitely a horrendous pick. Teams that take QBs in the mid rounds hoping to parlay them for value are the good teams, the ones who can afford to take on a new project like that. Not bad teams that need all the help they can get. But yeah you can't expect that much from certain members of the media.
But what if Cousins is insanely good in pre-season and RG3 sucks?
They should have drafted a WR or OLineman.
This could happen again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiokzt9Dco
I feel it's 2 things:
1. It's a high enough of a pick, that the Redskins could have gotten any other player to fill a need, besides QB, which was already filled @ #2.
2. Kirk Cousin's is screwed by being on a team he has no chance to compete for. Instead of being on a different roster, working his way to Backup or even potential starter, he's stuck behind another 1st year QB, a high draft pick at that. It will never get better for him, barring a massive injury to RG3.
Not only is it stupid, it's a wasted pick. Let's not forget the Skins don't have #1 picks for the next two years and it's not like they're stocked to the brim with talent. They should've taken someone that could have potentially helped them THIS year.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't disagree, I didn't like the pick. I just hate the idea that it creates a "controversy". RGIII is the man in DC. It will be his job to lose and I doubt the Cousins pick will mess with his head or hurt his development.
Oh yeah, I agree with that. I forget who it was on ESPN that said "you've effectively created a QB controversy!" (Dilfer?) That's idiotic. RGIII will be given every chance to succeed - only way Cousins sees the field is if RGIII gets injured.
Here's what I posted a couple of pages back....
Cousins is a viable backup first and foremost. If he garners value later on, so be it. Anyone who is saying that we didn't address positions of needed don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Just like I said above, when has a backup QB not been a position of need? Ask the Colts. Ask the Texans. Ask Philly. Ask the Lions.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Im tired of seeng meth faced women all the time.
Of course RG3 is the man in this situation. The only way he isn't the starter is upon a gruesome injury (or worse) or he kills someone. There is nothing on the field, that will cause a demotion. Even 0-16.
I find it hard to believe that a rookie Kirk Cousins is a more viable backup than a veteran Rex Grossman. I know that Grossman isn't the greatest QB out there, but at this point in time he is better than Cousins.
I guess having more picks than 21 other teams is really limitting yourself! Only the Brown stains (11), Bungles (10), Indy (10), Yikes (10), Lams (10) and CHawks (10) had more than the Skins NINE picks. Four other teams had nine picks, but the 21 other NFL teams had less.
Next year we have 7, that is until Shanny and Bruce turn those 7 into 9 or 10!
People act like we gave up 3 or 4 picks each year for the next few years, when in reality we gave up one pick this year (the 2nd - we swapped 1st), one pick in 2013 and one in 2014.
Shanny and BA have drafted 27 players over the past three drafted with SEVEN of those players being OL and three first rounders,
The FOUR drafts prior to those three had 27 players drafted with only TWO OL and two first rounders.
Shanallenhan have drafted seven OL in three drafts... You have to go back ten drafts prior to MS and BA arriving to get to eight OL drafted. In fact it was only five in nine drafts between 2001 through 2009.
Move out of your momma's house.
At this time? Yes. But this is the thing called "the future" and they are preparing for it. Is that such a bad thing?
Look at the FA, draft and UDFA's, all positions of "need" have been addressed thoroughly.
yankeehater
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You cant seriously believe this. Every team still has needs, hell I bet the Giants are still trying to add players. No way have the Redskins thoroughly addressed all of their needs after this 1 off-season.
I think picking another QB up would have been more defensible if it was someone who could emulate RGIII's talents. But you pick that kind of guy up in the 6th or 7th round, not at the top of the 4th. The pick just smells like the Skins saw Cousins there at the top of the 4th and were like "hey, we MIGHT be able to peddle this guy off in the future for something better than a 4th round pick!" which probably shouldn't be the way a team drafts.
Futurevoid
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Here's the fat man interview with Reese:
Francessa interview with Reese
Mentions a few interesting things despite the softy interview. He didn't feel there were any "elite" pass rushers in this draft but there were guys bunched together that he feels will be very good. Goes over the Martin over Wilson speculation, etc. Don't buy the Wilson pick not being a need. I don't doubt he was the second ranked back but there was definitely some need in there.
Francessa interview with Reese
Mentions a few interesting things despite the softy interview. He didn't feel there were any "elite" pass rushers in this draft but there were guys bunched together that he feels will be very good. Goes over the Martin over Wilson speculation, etc. Don't buy the Wilson pick not being a need. I don't doubt he was the second ranked back but there was definitely some need in there.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
dont talk about my mom
In one off-season? No. They drafted 12 people last year. 11 got playing time. 3 were offensive linemen.
QB - overhauledHB
FB - solidified last year
HB - solidified last year, another back brought in this year. Hightower may be resigned.
WR - addressed this year with Garcon, and Morgan. Hankerson was a steal in the draft last year. UDFA's brought on board this year.
TE - cooley + davis
OL - heavily addressed the past 3 drafts. 7 altogether + FA signings.
DL - heavily addressed in last years FA market, plus a great player that was lost during preseason.
LB - ILB was the glaring need. It was addressed with a good draft pick this year. We JUST signed the Giants previous MLB via FA today.
CB - addressed in this draft
Safety - addressed in the draft and FA (3 signings I think)
K - addressed via FA
So yes, this FO has touched glaring needs for this year and have been slowly building up a respectable team. They were one of the oldest teams in the NFL 2 years ago, now they're one of the youngest.
I'm not saying they're done and finished with fullfilling needs but that the idea that they FAILED to address needs by drafting Cousins is fucking retarded. They have/had many needs and that one damn pick wasn't going to fill all of them. They got a value pick AND still addressed needs.