Depends on what you mean by superstars. I'd argue Wade is the only other "superstar" on that team. Bosh is obviously very good but superstar implies more than just being very good on the court. And that's only 3 guys.
bosh was a superstar before going to miami. i find it odd that people say "pffft yeah it's only 3 of them but they have no one else!" uhhh, ok? most championship teams have 1 superstar, 1 really good player, and a bunch of role players. miami has 3 superstars and some other role players. it's embarrassing they didn't win it last year but mcgirk is 100 times the player lebron is!
I'll never understand the point behind the NFL's appeal process.
Player: "Roger Goodell is evil and he's out to get me, so I'm going to go ask his boss to see if I can get my suspension reduced. Who's the boss?"
Lawyer:"Uhmm, Roger Goodell stands over the appeal process."
Player:"Oh"
Do these players really expect Goodell, the Goodellfuhrer, the man who's ran this league with an iron fist and his no-nonsense policy, to come out of the kindness of his heart and change his mind? Sorry, won't happen.
It would be more legitimate if there was an independent arbitrator overseeing the appeals, and not the same man overlooking the initial evidence and assigning the punishments. Right now it seems like a sham and a massive waste of time.
Besides, we all know the Saints did it. They're all a bunch of dirty bounty hunters
although based off their D's stats, they're pretty shitty at bounty hunting
and whatever comes out of their salty mouths are lies and bullshit.
First, the players shouldn't have ratified the cba, like the Steelers. They were warned and ignored said warning. But then again, they did have DeMoron running the show.
Secondly, I'm willing to bet that if one of those guys had gone in and spilled their guts and been apologetic, Roger would have lessened their suspension. I've learned one thing about Heir Goodell, and that is that he hates being lied to. All of those guys had better keep their noses clean or next time Roger won't be so nice.
Depends on what you mean by superstars. I'd argue Wade is the only other "superstar" on that team. Bosh is obviously very good but superstar implies more than just being very good on the court. And that's only 3 guys.
bosh was a superstar before going to miami. i find it odd that people say "pffft yeah it's only 3 of them but they have no one else!" uhhh, ok? most championship teams have 1 superstar, 1 really good player, and a bunch of role players. miami has 3 superstars and some other role players. it's embarrassing they didn't win it last year but mcgirk is 100 times the player lebron is!
Pretty much this. It seems to be historically that it is one solid superstar combined with a great player or another superstar to get the job done. Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Gasol, Duncan/Parker or Ginobli, Shaq/Wade, Jordan/Pippen, Garnett/Pierce or Allen. The only real anomaly is the most recent Pistons championship team. No one was a real superstar on that team, but they go the job done.
I view that team, along with the Ravens SB team, as just random. You need an elite QB to win a SB in the modern NFL, and a superstar player to win a title in the NBA. There are instances where that didn't happen, but it's so rare the exceptions are just noise
The Bucs SB is strange. As weird as it sounds, Rich Gannon was an elite QB during that brief period. Kraft dollars robbed him of possible SB appearance in Tuck Rule game, and then he went to the SB the next year. But his own coach was a moron and the other coach knew all his plays
I view that team, along with the Ravens SB team, as just random. You need an elite QB to win a SB in the modern NFL, and a superstar player to win a title in the NBA. There are instances where that didn't happen, but it's so rare the exceptions are just noise
The Bucs SB is strange. As weird as it sounds, Rich Gannon was an elite QB during that brief period. Kraft dollars robbed him of possible SB appearance in Tuck Rule game, and then he went to the SB the next year. But his own coach was a moron and the other coach knew all his plays
That was certainly a weird year in basketball. I remember getting really into the Pistons simply because they held teams to very low scores, and played great team ball. I really enjoyed watching Billups, because as a kid I got to see him a couple times as a high school player in Denver. Billups was the closest they got to a "superstar" in terms of consistent production. Rip and R. Wallace also had good/great games irc, Prince also played very well. To be honest, that team was my favorite championship team to watch outside of the pure domination of the 90's Bulls.
It's pretty undeniable at this point that it is considerably more difficult to win without an elite QB. Winning a SB without one is a rare occasion indeed.
That was certainly a weird year in basketball. I remember getting really into the Pistons simply because they held teams to very low scores, and played great team ball. I really enjoyed watching Billups, because as a kid I got to see him a couple times as a high school player in Denver. Billups was the closest they got to a "superstar" in terms of consistent production. Rip and R. Wallace also had good/great games irc, Prince also played very well. To be honest, that team was my favorite championship team to watch outside of the pure domination of the 90's Bulls.
It's pretty undeniable at this point that it is considerably more difficult to win without an elite QB. Winning a SB without one is a rare occasion indeed.
bosh was a superstar before going to miami. i find it odd that people say "pffft yeah it's only 3 of them but they have no one else!" uhhh, ok? most championship teams have 1 superstar, 1 really good player, and a bunch of role players. miami has 3 superstars and some other role players. it's embarrassing they didn't win it last year but mcgirk is 100 times the player lebron is!
I wouldn't call Bosh a superstar, just a star. I'd compare the difference between a star and a superstar with the difference between an All-Star and an MVP candidate. The Raptors never did anything while he was there and he put up good numbers, but nothing mind-blowing. To be a superstar you need to be the best of the best and have the results to back it up. Guys like Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, Howard. Also, to qualify for superstar status in my book, you need to have some influence off the court. Shoe deals, commercials, how you deal with the media, etc.
I wouldn't call Bosh a superstar, just a star. I'd compare the difference between a star and a superstar with the difference between an All-Star and an MVP candidate. The Raptors never did anything while he was there and he put up good numbers, but nothing mind-blowing. To be a superstar you need to be the best of the best and have the results to back it up. Guys like Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, Howard. Also, to qualify for superstar status in my book, you need to have some influence off the court. Shoe deals, commercials, how you deal with the media, etc.
Agreed. Bosh isn't a superstar. A superstar makes the team better by default, to the point where people can honestly say "we need one more piece to make a run". Bosh was never that good. Lebron was. Wade was. Kobe was. Shaq was.
This playoffs is a perfect indication. Bosh went down and the team didn't miss a beat. I'm willing to bet win or lose Bosh is off the team next year.
Agreed. Bosh isn't a superstar. A superstar makes the team better by default, to the point where people can honestly say "we need one more piece to make a run". Bosh was never that good. Lebron was. Wade was. Kobe was. Shaq was.
This playoffs is a perfect indication. Bosh went down and the team didn't miss a beat. I'm willing to bet win or lose Bosh is off the team next year.
they didn't? they were down 2-1 to a crappy pacers team without bosh. they were getting housed by the celtics before bosh came back. they would probably be down 3-1 right now without bosh in the finals
they didn't? they were down 2-1 to a crappy pacers team without bosh. they were getting housed by the celtics before bosh came back. they would probably be down 3-1 right now without bosh in the finals
obviously not in the pacers series because he didn't play. but him not playing turned a 4 game series into a 6 game. the same with the celtics. heat do not beat the celtics without bosh
I dunno... it always looked to me like Elway hated Tebow and the only reason he started going with it was so he didn't look like a doucher because the press was pointing out how stoic or pissed he looked in the box. He was just going with what he had because he had no choice until Peyton popped up.
As much as I like Tebow and Elway, Elway has earned the ability to mold the team as he sees fit.
I think they gave Tebow a solid shot to be that guy. His wild inconsistency is what killed him. He would have a decent game followed by a total shit fest (Steelers than Pats playoff games for instance). I guess if ditching a young, inconsistent guy for a legendary qb earns us a curse that's too bad. Nobody really lost in this situation, as Tebow gets a shot with a team where the situation favors him to some degree.
I dunno... it always looked to me like Elway hated Tebow and the only reason he started going with it was so he didn't look like a doucher because the press was pointing out how stoic or pissed he looked in the box. He was just going with what he had because he had no choice until Peyton popped up.
I dunno... it always looked to me like Elway hated Tebow and the only reason he started going with it was so he didn't look like a doucher because the press was pointing out how stoic or pissed he looked in the box. He was just going with what he had because he had no choice until Peyton popped up.
I thought the same. And Mike Silver's piece made it clear that Elway and Fox were thinking of benching him before the Pittsburgh game. But that moment in the gif, Tebow looks at Elway and finally thinks he has made him proud. Only for it all to be a lie.
Judas and his silver. Brutus and his dagger. Elway and his horse-faced smile
bosh was a superstar before going to miami. i find it odd that people say "pffft yeah it's only 3 of them but they have no one else!" uhhh, ok? most championship teams have 1 superstar, 1 really good player, and a bunch of role players. miami has 3 superstars and some other role players. it's embarrassing they didn't win it last year but mcgirk is 100 times the player lebron is!
The whole reason people hated the Heat to begin with is:
1. The Decision (not one, not two, not three, etc.)
2. Lebron went out of his way to coordinate a stacked team for the purpose of winning a championship
Can you imagine Jordan trying to get onto the same team as Bird or Magic? Or Magic playing with Bird? Madness!
(Everyone and their dog calls Wade a Top 5 player in the NBA so the analogy works here)
As much as I like Tebow and Elway, Elway has earned the ability to mold the team as he sees fit.
I think they gave Tebow a solid shot to be that guy. His wild inconsistency is what killed him. He would have a decent game followed by a total shit fest (Steelers than Pats playoff games for instance). I guess if ditching a young, inconsistent guy for a legendary qb earns us a curse that's too bad. Nobody really lost in this situation, as Tebow gets a shot with a team where the situation favors him to some degree.
I was thinking...how many championships does Lebron have to win before people start loving him again?
Unless there's a massive choke incoming, he'll win his first before the end of next week, possible tonight. Let's say he wins 3 more after that. Will that make people forget the "Decision" stuff? Say what you will but winning championships heals a lot of wounds.
I was thinking...how many championships does Lebron have to win before people start loving him again?
Unless there's a massive choke incoming, he'll win his first before the end of next week. Let's say he wins 3 more after that. Will that make people forget the "Decision" stuff? Say what you will but winning championships heals a lot of wounds.
Maybe basketball is a different mindset but the fact remains that he went out of his way to get onto a stacked team. If a healthy Peyton Manning, Demarcus Ware, Darrell Revis went to play for the Baltimore Ravens and won 4 Super Bowls, would you hate them less or more?
I was thinking...how many championships does Lebron have to win before people start loving him again?
Unless there's a massive choke incoming, he'll win his first before the end of next week, possible tonight. Let's say he wins 3 more after that. Will that make people forget the "Decision" stuff? Say what you will but winning championships heals a lot of wounds.
Maybe basketball is a different mindset but the fact remains that he went out of his way to get onto a stacked team. If a healthy Peyton Manning, Demarcus Ware, Darrell Revis went to play for the Baltimore Ravens and won 4 Super Bowls, would you hate them less or more?
That's a silly comparison, because i'm a fan of a rival team (Though if Peyton was on the team they wouldn't win anything anyway).
I mean the the fairweather fan. The Heat have a lot of lifelongs now, but they have a greater amount of people who don't even watch basketball and hate Lebron just cuz.
That's a silly comparison, because i'm a fan of a rival team (Though if Peyton was on the team they wouldn't win anything anyway).
I mean the the fairweather fan. The Heat have a lot of lifelongs now, but they have a greater amount of people who don't even watch basketball and hate Lebron just cuz.
Yeah, ironically, the sooner the Lebron hate dies the worse it is for basketball in a way. I think people really enjoyed the whole "heel" role the Heat played last season and sort of played this year (despite ESPN trying to convince us otherwise). I believe that hate drives viewership and interest just as much as love for a team. There are about 5 or 6 NFL teams that I watch for the sole purpose of hoping they lose!
I haven't watched basketball since the 90s and just recently started again because of the hate.
But if people become genuine Heat fans because of all this, well, that's probably good for the sport too. The huge influx of filthy Pats fans probably benefited the NFL in the long run.
Manning holds a number of individual career records:
Regular season
Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 11 (19992004, 20062010)
Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (19992004; tied with Drew Brees)
Most games with 40+ pass attempts in a season: 10 (2010)
Most consecutive seasons with at least 20 touchdown passes: 13 (19982010)
Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (19982010)
Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)
Most consecutive games started to open a career: 208
Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 113, 2004)[207]
Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 711, 2004)[208]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, season: 6 (2004; tied with 1984 Marino)[208]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, career: 24 (includes 2 playoff games; tied with Brett Favre)[209]
Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)[210]
Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 (tied with Tom Brady)
One of only seven QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Tom Brady, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)[211]
One of only two QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions in two games (tied with Tom Brady)
Most regular games with at least 300 passing yards: 63 (tied with Dan Marino)
Most regular and postseason games with at least 300 passing yards: 71
Most games with at least 400 yards passing and no interceptions: 4
Most career touchdown passes in Thursday games: 25[212]
Most touchdown passes on a Thursday game: 6 (tied with Bob Griese)
Largest career TD-INT differential: 201
Highest career passing TDs/game average (min. 150 TD passes): 1.918 TDs/game[37]
Second-Highest career passing yards/game average: 263.6 (Drew Brees, 263.7) * Second-Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 22.5 (Drew Brees, 23.4) notefor the purpose of being rested for the postseason, Manning was taken out early in 7 games; the last 2 games of 2009 and 2005, and the season finale in seasons 2008, 2007, 2004, thus diminishing his averages)
Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) [37]
Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 66[213]
Most consecutive regular season wins as a starter: 23 (20082009)
Most seasons with 10+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 11 (19992000, 20022010)
Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 8 (1999, 20032009)
Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 7 consecutive seasons (20032009)[214]
Only QB with nine straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (20022010)[37]
Only QB to lead five consecutive 4th quarter comeback wins (games 711, 2009)[215]
Most fourth quarter comeback wins in one season: 7 (2009)[216]
First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)[217]
Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular season only: 115 (2000s)[218]
Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular & postseason: 124 (2000s)
Most AP NFL MVP Awards: 4 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
Most Touchdown Passes in a decade: 314 (20002009)
Most Passing Yards in a decade: 42,254 (20002009)
Most Completions in a decade: 3,575 (20002009)
Playoff records
Most 300+ yard passing games: 8 [219]
Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05[220]
Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England[221]
One of only four QBs to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)[222]
Most games with 20+ completions: 14[223] (surpassed by Tom Brady in 2011)
Most games with 30+ completions: 4[224] (surpassed by Drew Brees in 2011)
Most games with 30+ attempts: 17[225]
Most games with 40+ attempts: 8[226] (tied by Tom Brady in 2011)
Most completions and attempts in a single postseason: 97/153 (2006)[227]
One of only 2 quarterbacks to complete 80% of his passes in two playoff games (tied with Kurt Warner)[228]
Most consecutive postseasons with at least one start: 9 (20022010)
Rookie records
Most touchdown passes: 26[208]
Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (games 416): 13[229]
Most games with at least one touchdown pass: 15 [37]
Most games with 300+ yards passing: 4 [37]
With Marvin Harrison
Manning and former Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison hold a number of QB-WR tandem records:
Most completions/receptions (career): 953[230]
Most passing/receiving yards (career): 12,756[230]
Most passing/receiving touchdowns (career): 112[37][230]
Most completions/receptions in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 143 (2002)
Most passing/receiving yards in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 1,722 (2002)
Pro Bowl records
Most Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 11 (tied with Brett Favre)[231]
Most consecutive Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 9 (during the 20022010 seasons)
Most passing attempts (career): 150[101]
Most passing attempts (game): 41 (2004)[232]
Most completions (career): 92[101]
Most completions (game): 22 (2004)[232]
Most passing yards (career): 1,278[101]
Most passing yards (game): 342 (2004)[232]
Most passing touchdowns (career): 13[101]
Colts franchise records
Most passing attempts (career): 7,210[36]
Most passing attempts (season): 679 (2010)[36]
Most passing attempts (rookie season): 575 (1998)[36]
Most 40+ passing attempt games (career): 56[36]
Most completions (career): 4,682[36]
Most completions (season): 450 (2010)[36]
Most completions (rookie season): 326 (1998)[36]
Most completions (game): 40 (09/12/10 at Houston)[36]
Most completions (rookie game): 30 (11/01/98 vs. New England)[36]
Most consecutive completions: 23 (12/14/08-12/18/08 vs. Detroit/Jacksonville)[37]
Most games with 20+ completions (career): 140[36]
Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 14 (games 114, 2010)[36]
Most games with 30+ completions (career): 23[233]
Highest completion percentage (career): 64.9%[36]
Highest completion percentage (season): 68.8% (2009)[36]
Highest completion percentage (rookie season): 56.7%[36]
Highest completion percentage (game): 87.5% (14/16 for 95 yards, 12/30/07 vs. Tennessee)[37]
Most passing yards (career): 54,828[234]
Most passing yards (season): 4,700 (2010)[36]
Most passing yards (rookie season): 3,739[36]
Most passing yards (game): 472 (10/31/04 vs. Kansas City)[36]
Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 63[36]
Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (2009)[36]
Most 300+ passing yard games (rookie season): 4[36]
Most consecutive passing 300+ yard games: 5 (games 15 in 2009)[36]
Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards : 11 (19992004, 20062010)[204]
Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (19992004): 6[2]
Most touchdown passes (career): 399[235]
Most touchdown passes (season): 49 (2004)[36]
Most touchdown passes (rookie season): 26[36]
Most touchdown passes (game): 6 (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans and 11/25/04 vs. Detroit)[36]
Most touchdown passes (rookie game): 3 (4 times; tied with Johnny Unitas and Jeff George)[36]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (career): 22[236]
Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6[208]
Most games with at least 3 touchdown passes (career): 64[36]
Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (season): 15 (5 times)[36]
Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 15 (1998)[36]
Most consecutive uninterrupted games with at least 1 touchdown pass: 27
Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (games 711, 2004): 5 (2004)[208]
Most consecutive games with at least 3 touchdown passes: 8 (games 512, 2004)[237]
Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 113, 2004)[36]
Most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 13 (games 416)[36]
Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (19982010)[204]
Highest touchdown percentage (career): 5.66%[36]
Highest touchdown percentage (season): 9.86% (2004)[36]
Highest touchdown percentage (game): 24.00% (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans)[36]
Most interceptions thrown (game): 6 (11/11/07 vs. San Diego)[36]
Most interceptions thrown (season): 28 (1998)[36]
Highest passer rating (career): 94.9[36]
Second highest passer rating (season): 121.1 (2004)[36]
Most games with a perfect passer rating (career): 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[90]
Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback: 208 (current)[238]
Most games played, franchise history: 208
Most consecutive games started, franchise history: 208 (current)[238]
Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (career): 35 (includes one playoff game) [36]
Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (season): 7 (2009) [36]
Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (career): 46 (includes one playoff game) [36]
Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 7 (1999, 2008, 2009)[36]
I don't really follow basketball, but it seems the Thunder probably need a new coach. I don't really think basketball coaches or baseball managers are all that important, so unless you are some master Xs and Os guy, you might as well look the part. Brooks looks so overwhelmed. The Ron Washington of this series
I don't really follow basketball, but it seems the Thunder probably need a new coach. I don't really think basketball coaches or baseball managers are all that important, so unless you are some master Xs and Os guy, you might as well look the part. Brooks looks so overwhelmed. The Ron Washington of this series
basketball coaches are important from a strategy/lineup standpoint. brooks was pathetic this series with how many minutes kendrick perkins got. a good big man who was valuable against the lakers and spurs but out of place against the heat. he has perkins and ibaka out on the court to cover who? one covers chris bosh and one covers mike miller or another shooter. why should they be on the floor then? they're just getting spaced out and negating their strengths
brooks should be fired for that reason alone but he actually did have a pretty good strategy against the spurs that worked so do you fire him for 1 series? a series the thunder could've easily won if they just executed in the last few minutes of games 2-4?
brooks should be fired for that reason alone but he actually did have a pretty good strategy against the spurs that worked so do you fire him for 1 series? a series the thunder could've easily won if they just executed in the last few minutes of games 2-4?
He's not Rick Carlisle or anything. Firing him is no big loss. Like I said, I don't follow basketball enough, but it's seems crazy to me how many games Westbrook takes more shots than Durant
basketball coaches are important from a strategy/lineup standpoint. brooks was pathetic this series with how many minutes kendrick perkins got. a good big man who was valuable against the lakers and spurs but out of place against the heat. he has perkins and ibaka out on the court to cover who? one covers chris bosh and one covers mike miller or another shooter. why should they be on the floor then? they're just getting spaced out and negating their strengths
brooks should be fired for that reason alone but he actually did have a pretty good strategy against the spurs that worked so do you fire him for 1 series? a series the thunder could've easily won if they just executed in the last few minutes of games 2-4?
for the purpose of being rested for the postseason, Manning was taken out early in 7 games; the last 2 games of 2009 and 2005, and the season finale in seasons 2008, 2007, 2004, thus diminishing his averages)
