Confrontation
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Might be because for the last month it was mainly about NBA players getting max contract offers at 20mil+ per year for flopping around the court.
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NFL Off-Season Thread 5 - Everybody Do The Flop
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Might be because for the last month it was mainly about NBA players getting max contract offers at 20mil+ per year for flopping around the court.
Probably an ignorant opinion but I think Graham is a bit overrated. He disappears entirely when he is competently covered. That should still be valuable because theoretically it should free up the actual receivers more but to me it seems like when Graham disappears the other receivers are not stepping up.
Of course my comment could be summed up by stating the obvious that a good defense is a good defense. Just with as much hype as Graham gets he shouldn't disappear completely like he does.
To sum up, fuck Seattle and their really good defense and scheming vs. the Saints.
Of course my comment could be summed up by stating the obvious that a good defense is a good defense. Just with as much hype as Graham gets he shouldn't disappear completely like he does.
To sum up, fuck Seattle and their really good defense and scheming vs. the Saints.
ActStriker
Member
Yeah, that sounds about right.
He probably is a little overrated but as it stands, he has played way over his rookie contract and well above what a third rounder is expected to ever do. It was either pay him or let him walk and face a massive downgrade in the offense.
WIth Kenny Stills emerging and Brandin cooks out there to take some of the heat off Colston and Meachem, its going to be harder to just lock down on Graham and shut down the offense like last year anyway. Last year he literally was the offense and production was still way up there.Also keep in mind he played last year with plantar fasciitis. He put up those numbers and he wasnt even at 100%
Can't disagree with you. Saints couldn't afford to let him walk. My frustration is that the Saints window is closing and we need an upgrade somewhere to get over the hurdle that is Seattle or the 49ers, our cheap TE becoming expensive doesn't help that cause. But it is what it is, every team has to deal with that.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
So what you're saying is that the Saints only paying $10 million for a BASKETBALL PLAYER is cheap?
That's as crazy as the Saints taking a chance on Drew Brees after failing the physical in Miami and the city of New Orleans rebounding after a devastating hurricane!
But you guys probably didn't hear about any of that did you?
Considering this is the most overall talented team the Saints have ever fielded Id say they have done everything possible within the cap space to improve them. they let some expensive and injury prone vets go, got younger at many positions and built through the draft, picked up some key FA's known for forcing turnovers and veteran leadership, and have a year of experience under Ryan's defensive system. Linebacker Victor Butler is finally returning and if he can stay healthy that immediately improves the LB position. They have basically done everything possible to make this team the most competitive it has ever been. Whether that translates on the field is another thing but the F.O. has worked some miracles to get this roster where it is. You should be VERY happy with how this team currently is.
Confrontation
Member
No, what I was saying is that it's cheap relative to the contracts NBA players get when a guy like Graham gets pummeled several times a game and an NBA player likes to 'exaggerate the consequences of mild contact', to put it nicely.
Football players also have some rest time. Dont basketball players go full speed for a lengthy period of time? they are putting in just as much work out there, just in smaller amounts per play as opposed to the massive energy spent for every football play.
Cant win em all.
Linebacker is the weakest portion of the team but its basically the only real "hole" that exists. Dline is solid. Secondary is secure. Offense is what they always are. Very few positions of need on this roster at the moment. Ill take a weak linebacker position over other deficiencies.
Confrontation
Member
That's true, but you if you had a chance to give the same contracts to players between the sports, wouldn't you give Graham at least the same amount of money that top NBA players make? Guys like Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gay were all hovering around the 20mil mark for the season. I'd say a Jimmy Graham for 10mil per year is relatively cheap when just looking the figures themselves, not the cap hit for the team.
manfestival
Member
Graham is a wide receiver and not a tight end. Kappa
if Graham is happy with this contract and its lower than expected year to year that can only help the cap not hurt it. Its smart money usage by the front office and thats why the Saints stay competitive.
Himynameischris
Member
1. Football
2. Basketball
3.fuck everything else
4. Baseball
2. Basketball
3.fuck everything else
4. Baseball
BlackGhost
Banned
Morning.
Nice avatar confrontation.
Nice avatar confrontation.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Decided on a soccer team to root for?
I've been a Revolution fan since Day One.
In America I've followed the red bulls for a while now.
Rest of the world not really. Most of the leagues look broken from the outside looking in.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
1. Football
2. Rhythmic gymnastics
2. Rhythmic gymnastics
Confrontation
Member
Well yeah. But because of the fact that you gotta pay a huge amount of players on the roster, some very talented and high impact players at non-premium positions (usually) get underpaid.
I felt I needed to change mine before the inevitable Indians collapse and get ready for football season. I just noticed mine is almost exactly the same as yours though, ffs. I'll try to find a more distinct one.
Decided on a new face?
thats just the reality of a salary cap. Cant keep premium players at every position. this isnt baseball. Next year will provide more challenges and changes as new players come to the forefront and perform well and either demand new contracts or go to FA.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I know I just wanted to dump on the Saints media coverage some more.
KATRINA
...okay I'm done. For now.
BaltimoreLarry
Member
I've actually been doing a lot of research on an EPL team to support, and nothing is clicking. I might just have to go into the season as a free agent and let the sport move my allegiances.
BlackGhost
Banned
Ive heard that this is some of the most excrutiating pain a human can endure and will probaby lead to death in most cases.
lol if anime averages like a 30 minute format tv show aka being 20-22 minutes long. He was watching 13 hours of anime a day. Cajun, how does this compare to you?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Kluwe's holding a press conference at some point today. The reason? The investigation into the homophobia allegations on the Vikings coaching staff, that his Deadspin article resulted in, finally turned up results. Results that the Vikings are refusing to publicly release to him or anybody, meaning there's something juicy/horrible enough in there that they don't want to show.
Big Baybee
Member
Yea this is pretty much all I thought when I saw Graham signed. Oh well, at least I think this season is going to be really good.
BlackGhost
Banned
Haha You've never been hit in the testicles? And I think death would be of the rarer variety.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/testicle-injury-faq?page=1
Glad I wasn't the only one.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Supposedly any kind of major injury in the stomach area is the worst. Like stabbed or shot.
MRSA might know. He probably tells people dying to keep it down because he's reading a book or something.
Edit: Who the hell sits down in a shower? Put your feet up on the walls of the tub next time!
Confrontation
Member
I shower the correct way. Although I might revisit that after what happened.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
You must have a weird Flemish bathtub or shower stall if you have to sit at any point during the shower process.
Confrontation
Member
I just don't wanna risk snapping my neck when I lift my leg up. Especially after a workout/run and you're too tired.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=a...t&keywords=bathtub+mat&ie=UTF8&qid=1405438906
Problem solved. I don't even use one but if you're worried about that here you go.
Edit: at least sitting down in the shower isn't as odd as sleeping in jeans
BlackGhost
Banned
Can you ppl just not bend down to reach your legs?
Confrontation
Member
Yea gonna have to get me one of those.
My head comes eerily close to the faucet. If you don't pay attention, which I haven't in the past, you will hit your head. That's because the tub and the whole area around it is relatively small.
I watch about 5-6 hours of anime every two weeks.
I mean actually getting crushed testicles.
The only time I sit in the shower is if I'm nursing a hang over.