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NFL Offseason 2: Free Agency or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Squicken

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Colasante

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After giving the Giants a chance to improve their offer, DE Justin Tuck is accepting a two-year, $11 million deal with the Oakland Raiders.
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A bit pricey, but I like it. Raiders obviously have no choice but to overpay so it's hard to criticize them for that at this point.
 
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Futurevoid

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11 million for two years? You can have him, Oakland.

I'll miss him though. One of my favorite Giants of all time. He'll retire in blue one day.

yankeehater said:
I am no Giants fan but I cant imagine Tuck in a different uniform. That is going to be weird.
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Yep. Worse that its to Oakland where careers go to die. :(
 
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Will Blackmon @willblackmon·
Coach Gus is just getting custody of his children he raised in Seattle lol
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yankeehater said:
I liked this draft way more when you were saying that both safeties would be there at 22. :(
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It doesn't help that there seems to be a big gap between those two and the rest of a class that isn't considered deep. So much of where he falls is dependent on the QBs. A pretty decent consensus is forming on the non-QBs in the top 10-15
 
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MetalFearSolid said:
Apparently, DRC declined to accept a deal believed to be worth $54 million over six years and Talib was then signed. Wow.
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Yeah, that's unbelievable. Talk about an agent misreading his player's market. Now Patriots fans have DRC to thank for us ultimately getting Talib; had DRC signed that more than fair deal, we'd still have Talib, and Revis would be elsewhere, if not a Bronco.
 
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eznark said:
Zero chance he trades up that far.
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You think he's that high? I've seen him go 20-25 in most mocks.

I don't think he should take a Safety at all, TBH. There's lot of late round talent and he seems to like the kid from UNC even though Bowser thinks he sucks.

Edit: NM saw your other post
 
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Possible Wilfork replacement in the draft.

@DanWetzel: Pats have loved Notre Dame DT Louis Nix for two years now. At 6-3, 340, would they move up to make him next in the Wilfork/Washington spot?
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Sproles traded to Eagles?
Im ok with it. thats a fun offense and he will thrive in it. They will be competitive and use Sproles' talent the way it should be. Thanks for what you did for us Sproles.
 
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Sad about Tuck, but for the money he's getting the Giants would be foolish to match. Glad he gave the Giants a chance to match the offer, and glad he's getting paid now as he didn't get an exorbitant contract his last time.
 
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For comparison, the Falcons signed Osi Umenyoira last season to a two year, 8.5 million dollar deal. With incentives it could have been worth up to 12 million and now they want him to take a pay cut.

Cullen Jenkins took a 3 year, 8 million dollar deal with 3 million guaranteed. DT but he's a versatile pass rusher as well.

Those numbers I would guess are more the Giants speed in terms of keeping Tuck. I'm sad to see him go and I wanted him to play his career in NY but that's the numbers game. Don't blame him at all for taking the money.
 
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Mackenzie 92 said:
2 years for 11 mil is an overpay for Tuck? I was expecting more.
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I don't think it's unreasonable at all if he can keep up the torrid sack pace he developed at the end of last season, but I thought I'd read that the Giants valued him around $4 million per year. I'm just not sure how much he has left, but it reminds me of the Cardinals picking up John Abraham on a fair, but unspectacular deal last season and seeing him get 11 sacks.
 
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Colasante said:
Yeah, that's unbelievable. Talk about an agent misreading his player's market. Now Patriots fans have DRC to thank for us ultimately getting Talib; had DRC signed that more than fair deal, we'd still have Talib, and Revis would be elsewhere, if not a Bronco.
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Yeah if DRC signs that deal I doubt that Denver goes so hard after Talib. I wonder where Revis would have gone then? Maybe the Jets.
 
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Futurevoid said:
For comparison, the Falcons signed Osi Umenyoira last season to a two year, 8.5 million dollar deal. With incentives it could have been worth up to 12 million and now they want him to take a pay cut.

Cullen Jenkins took a 3 year, 8 million dollar deal with 3 million guaranteed.

Those numbers I would guess are more the Giants speed in terms of keeping Tuck. I'm sad to see him go and I wanted him to play his career in NY but that's the numbers game. Don't blame him at all for taking the money.
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Ayup, and can't blame the Raiders for overpaying as they kinda had to.
 
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Colasante said:
I don't think it's unreasonable at all if he can keep up the torrid sack pace he developed at the end of last season.
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A bulk of his sacks were in two games against the Redskins. He's still an excellent run stuffer but his days as a premium two way DE are over. If he can stay healthy, 4-6 sacks in a season are realistic for him.
 
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