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NFL Offseason Thread |OT3| The Long Wait
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Lol. Lions won't make the playoffs at least for 5 years.
I just don't see the Lions doing too much at their current state within the NFC north and NFC in general. Sorry.
You are going to have to upgrade Mayhew and Schwartz. Those two just aren't good at their jobs and it's holding back your organization
How many of those teams were coming off a 4-12 season and had a shoulder-less fatso at quarterback?
A fair point, though the 2007 Cardinals went 5-11 under Matt Leinart. I don't think the Lions have a Kurt Warner waiting in the wings though.
Mayhew has been a solid GM thus far.
He fleeced Jerry Jones for a 1st and a 3rd round pick for Roy Williams as one of his first moves. He turned that first round pick into Brandon Pettigrew, a solid TE, and in the same draft picked Matthew Stafford with the #1 pick and Louis Delmas in the 2nd. He picked Ndamukong Suh with the #2 pick and then picked up Nick Fairley the next year with the #13 pick.
He also got Chris Houston, our #1 DB from the ATL Falcons for a 6th round pick IIRC. Chris Houston was one of the most sought after DBs this past free agency despite being seen as a "flop" by ATL's front office. They took Chris Houston as a 2nd round pick but he didn't pan out for whatever reason in ATL.
Mayhew saw the talent in Titus Young and Jahvid Best but for separate reasons they did not pan out. They both were amazing for a short period of time but through brain injuries could not stay on the field.
He has taken over an 0-16 team and turned it into one of the most explosive offenses in the league, and a fearsome defensive line. He hasn't been as great with Round 4-7 picks but this article points out a lot of positives and negatives of Mayhew.
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2013/5/6/4303036/lions-draft-picks-martin-mayhew
The Rams did it in 1999, Saints did it recently and so did the Cardinals. The Seahawks were the laughing stock of the league, and now they're some fearsome team, who we handled last year.
That shoulder-less QB has one of the strongest and most accurate arms in the league, and has dropped an unprecedented 10,000 Yards and a 3:1.5 TD/INT ratio before his 25th birthday.
Pretty sure the Steelers were a 6 win team the year before we drafted Ben. In his first year he went undefeated in the regular season (playoffs were canceled that year for some reason) and won a title his second.
Teams can turn around quick in the NFL. Now to see if Reggie can make as big of an impact as Ben.
Teams can turn around quick in the NFL. Now to see if Reggie can make as big of an impact as Ben.
He started to change that philosophy last years draft. He picked up Riley Reiff (LT) at #22 in last years draft, a very safe pick, and I'm starting to think he passed up on Dee Milliner for Ziggy Ansah because of previous players who had character issues (mainly Titus Young).
When he first took over after the 0-16 season we were so depleted of talent outside of Calvin Johnson and Cliff Avril, he had to stock up the team with as much talent as possible considering we were the worst team in NFL history. As we've gone along we've gotten high character guys with talent, and now we can pick and choose among talent moreso than before.
At the same time a lot of people claim Suh and Nick Fairley are questionable characters which I disagree with. Suh stomped on some chump Packers lineman who the Packers coaching staff told to untie his shoelaces and attempt to injure him, and Nick Fairley got busted for weed. Big deal.
Is Kas really crowing about Chris Houston? He who Roddy and Julio took turns leaving in their dust?
He may play your #1, but he is perfectly average. Atlanta didn't keep him around because he couldn't pass off guys while playing zone to save his life. Drafted by the previous regime.
He may play your #1, but he is perfectly average. Atlanta didn't keep him around because he couldn't pass off guys while playing zone to save his life. Drafted by the previous regime.
He is solid enough to where he was one of the most sought after DBs this past Free Agency. Houston was though highly enough to be drafted by the Falcons in the 2007 draft to be a 2nd round pick out of Arkansas.
He's had 8 INTs, two he turned into Touchdowns, with three forced fumbles and 37 passes defended since coming to Detroit. Just because your coaching staff couldn't make him work with your defense, he's worked great with our defensive philosophy.
Grover Cleveland
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:jnc at the bolded.
But speaking to your point, the Panthers went from 1-15 to 11-5 and in the Super Bowl in two years under Fox, so yeah teams can definitely change quickly.
The Panthers also went from 12-4 and a major Jake Delhomme fuck-up from a Super Bowl berth to 2-14 and worst team in the league in Fox's last three years.
Great at getting burnt by Roddy for touchdowns. He's had 3 over him for the last 2 meetings.
We give you shit for hyping perfectly average players like Houston. I feel nothing for him. We had him on the team the last three years, his name was Chris Owens.
That last part wasn't entirely Fox's fault. Right?
Futurevoid
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This is where it's hard not to wonder what it is you're watching. Outside of incidental crotch kicking, there's absolutely nothing fearsome about your defensive line.
The Lions were ranked 20th in sacks just ahead of the Giants who had a complete down year with the defensive line severely under performing. There's no way I'm going to sit here and try to sell the Giants defensive line in 2012 as "fearsome". They were soft as fuck.
The Lions were 16th (barely middle of the road) against the run allowing almost 120 yards per game.
27th in points per game allowing 27.3 points.
There's just nothing fearsome about your defensive line. You just drafted an extremely raw player at #5 who's going to get thrown out on the field day one because you lack any semblance of depth at the DE position.
I don't get it....
FrenchMovieTheme
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I accept your claim that our division isn't the best, but take pride in the fact the Vikings beat your team with a solid preformance.
Also, Kas is delusional. The Lions will certainly finish ahead of the Bears, and probably tie the Vikings. But ahead of the Packers? HA! That is quite the long shot.
FrenchMovieTheme
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vikings didn't beat us, the curse of the 2-2-1 did
Grover Cleveland
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Considering there was a drastic reduction of payroll between those two years that led to the team getting gutted talent-wise, along with dealing with a year of Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen (and Brian St. Pierre) at QB, I can't blame everything on Fox.
If nothing else, he was a guy that had control and respect in the locker room, and the guys played hard for him until the very end. The general idea around him leaving was that 2011 was the time for a complete change in culture, and drafting the QB of the future (who we all expected to be Luck at the end of that season) would mean we needed a new, exciting coaching staff in place as well. It wasn't that Fox was a bad coach, but that he was too...um conservative and the fans wanted someone new.
Fox is ten times a better coach than Rivera though.
Don't assume anything or take anything for granted in the NFL. Just because the Packers were good last year and the Lions were shit does not mean that history will repeat itself. The fat man cometh!
Once he gets going, the mass just can't be stopped.
Once upon a time we could rely on the frozen tundra of Soldier Field to do so. No longer.
Elfforkusu
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You forgot to divide by Taco Bell.
Goro Majima
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That's no code, or else Freeman and Jawalrus would have won 3 rings each!
Actually, Seahawks just went through what most NFL teams call a "transition period", between the peak years of the Holmgren/Hasselbeck era and the nascent Carroll/Wilson era. Things were bad for a bit, then they got better.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Yay, the Browns signed Hoyer like I knew they would. Lombardo just couldn't resist himself. Could be a Romo type story if Hoyer wasn't 27 already.
Also, anyone here play Skullgirls?
Also, anyone here play Skullgirls?
Hoyer, Weeden and JCamp locked in a 3-way battle for the Browns starting qb position! How is this not getting as much attention as the Jets' situation?
Fox is great Monday through Saturday, but iffy on Sundays. When these coaches just start embracing the few stats geek things that will be useful, their lives will be so much easier
Hey, the Lions have been going through a transition period, too. A 50-year transition period, but still.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Hoyer is Lombardo's crush, Cambell is Norv's crush, but Weeden has the arm seems best fit for overall system, but Weeden can't relax, he could lose it, it just seems very doubtful sill.
And I thought Beck vs. Grossman was as bad as it gets, poor Browns fans.
thanks for the spoilers pats scum!!!!
I've never even seen the show, but I refuse to believe that any information can be discerned from this gif.
You're a thief of joy, too.
Mackenzie 92
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Peyton just renegotiated his contract about an hour ago to free up some cap space, pretty sure Woodson will be signed tomorrow.
Wonder if the Browns or Jags would want Pryor? Pretty sure Reggie will trade him if he gets any offers. Chud could probably get the most out of him, and he has improved a lot.
Wonder if the Browns or Jags would want Pryor? Pretty sure Reggie will trade him if he gets any offers. Chud could probably get the most out of him, and he has improved a lot.
Lee Chaolan
Member
After what Pryor did to Buckeyes fans, doubt many Browns fans would want him here. From a football standpoint, he hasn't shown much. I'd only take a flyer if he was a FA Hoyer style. Weeden still could give us 6-7 good years.
You just ruined the whole series for me dude. I hope you can live with yourself knowing that it's the second worst thing you've ever done in your life. (next to being a pats fan obviously)
James Lauranitis was doing an interview talking about Kap and Wilson, saying they were so dangerous b/c they were more than just athletes b/c they could throw it too. He used Pryor as a guy he had played with who was a good athlete, while also saying he couldn't throw for shit
Dutch Gronk
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Gonna see The Great Gatsby tonight. I'm hyped.
lol a talking giraffe
The_Darkest_Red
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I've had that Young and Beautiful song stuck in my head ever since I saw that movie last weekend. Does that make me worse than bionic?
http://www.thestar.com/news/city_ha..._rob_ford_in_crack_cocaine_video_scandal.html
So Toronto's mayor is a crackhead? Time for kave to switch over to the Redskins. Though I guess Detroit's old mayor is also in jail so that works too
So Toronto's mayor is a crackhead? Time for kave to switch over to the Redskins. Though I guess Detroit's old mayor is also in jail so that works too
Is he the guy from the football throwing gif?
Alligatorjandro
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Toronto stays losing
JJ Watt visits a kid with cancer in the hospital every two weeks. Dude is awesome. Hope he's able to get out, but they'll never let him leave
yeah. lots of good GIFs in the gaf thread
edit: holy shit some kid in Texas killed an 800 lb alligator
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...-Texas-gator-4520487.php?t=e9387b5dbcb928bf52
yeah. lots of good GIFs in the gaf thread
edit: holy shit some kid in Texas killed an 800 lb alligator
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...-Texas-gator-4520487.php?t=e9387b5dbcb928bf52
The_Darkest_Red
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Condolences gator, try not to get too choked up at the funeral.
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