storybook77
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Fox318 said:
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NFL Week 13 2010 |OT| Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?
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Speed Stacking?DeaconKnowledge said:
storybook77
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Rorschach said:
I heard he'll be Jason Campbell's backup in Oakland next year.
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Ugh the most frustrating thing is that when you look at the Jets season as a whole not only have we not scored a touchdown in 8 but if you minus week two against the Pats the other big games of the year are week 1 against the Ravens, week 8 against the Packers, and this last game against the Pats the Jets have failed to score a single touchdown in either of those games.
Please fire Shotty! I would even be fore hiring McDaniels as offensive coordinator, even though he is an ex Pat coach, he knows an offense and is not Shotty!
Please fire Shotty! I would even be fore hiring McDaniels as offensive coordinator, even though he is an ex Pat coach, he knows an offense and is not Shotty!
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eznark said:
Yea, gotta keep up appearances! We're all manly men in this thread!
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Seriously, ez?eznark said:
One of the best offensive lines in the league. Santonio Holmes is a stud. Dustin Keller is a plus TE. Shonn Greene and LT make a good tandem at running back. I refuse to speak about that bitch 17.
Sanchez is holding that offensive back right now. I hate on that man, but he's got the ability to be successful.
Have you seen your quarterback? I'd be scared to death to open up the playbook too.Fox318 said:
Yes, he seems to be a very bad OC. Not denying that. But bringing in the greatest offensive coordinator of all time ever Josh McDaniels will only go so far.
Their offensive line is awesome. LT and Green are adequate. Stud? pshaw. Keller is good. A good quarterback would have a field day with that team. Too bad the Jets have Sanchize.
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Rorschach said:
The question must have been "Who sucks worse than Alex?"
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Talon- said:
Absolutely agree. And it shows because he can't do shit when the game is put on his shoulders. When they were behind and he had to make plays he made the Patriots D look like the best in the league when they were pretty much dead last in pass D. He's fine when he has play action working because everyone is scared of their run game.
The Packers played him right. 8 in the box single high safety and let Sanchez beat you. He really cant.
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eznark said:
:lol Right...if you watched last night and any other Jet game this season
which I know yo have
The most frustrating call of the night was a stalled drive where if we had sustained a drive, scored and then had a stop by defense
probably wouldn't have happened anyway
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modernkicks said:sadly there is no way he gets fired until the off-season though.
I know, I even made the mistake of turning on the TV today...looking for some highlight that maybe, maybe they did it! Instead I got highlights that made me want go back to sleep. :lol
Edit:
Sorry Ez, I know I read your clarification after I posted. In regards to it though, I don't think Shotty is even the right football mind to help you develop a quarterback, great for a running game but develop of QB I don't think he can do much.
Wellington
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Jet's playcalling is horrible yes, but that doesn't excuse passes being thrown right at defenders, dropped balls, and terrible special teams. Was it a bad call to punt from the endzone? Should they have gone for it. C'mon dude, let's be real here.Fox318 said:
Wellington said:
Some of the drops when they were still in the game...just awful. And that interception in the red zone was Cutler/Favre-like. Just bad, bad football from a bad football player.
The fact that he has such a fantastic line (top 5 in the league, hands down) and a solid running game makes his terrible play that much more inexcusable.
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R2P2 didn't work for his father, and it isn't working for him. Schottenheimer needs to be destroyed.
That said, he is far from THE reason why they lost, or why the offense has stalled. The offense is slowed up since LDT's seemed to slow down; he's getting like 3.7 ypc now over the last 6 or 7 games. Greene hasn't gotten an increase in carries commensurate with LDT's wear either; you figure he should get more carries now. Sanchez needs to really work on his accuracy; he is constantly overthrowing his targets, and given that he's got pretty much the entire universe available at the skill positions, that really fucks the game up for the Jets. Sanchez is in his second year as a QB in the NFL, and his 3rd year as a starting QB outside of high school, so he's doing a lot of learning/growing fast. He is improved from last year, and will continue to improve...but he's got to learn more quickly if the Jets are going to have a chance to cash this year in for the Superbowl.
Sanchez will have the whole arsenal available for him again versus Miami next Sunday, with Cotchery back. Hopefully he can sort things out and have a bounceback game.
That said, he is far from THE reason why they lost, or why the offense has stalled. The offense is slowed up since LDT's seemed to slow down; he's getting like 3.7 ypc now over the last 6 or 7 games. Greene hasn't gotten an increase in carries commensurate with LDT's wear either; you figure he should get more carries now. Sanchez needs to really work on his accuracy; he is constantly overthrowing his targets, and given that he's got pretty much the entire universe available at the skill positions, that really fucks the game up for the Jets. Sanchez is in his second year as a QB in the NFL, and his 3rd year as a starting QB outside of high school, so he's doing a lot of learning/growing fast. He is improved from last year, and will continue to improve...but he's got to learn more quickly if the Jets are going to have a chance to cash this year in for the Superbowl.
Sanchez will have the whole arsenal available for him again versus Miami next Sunday, with Cotchery back. Hopefully he can sort things out and have a bounceback game.
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Not a Jellyfish said:
I saw the Packers Jets game at the stadium. Because the Packers were playing the run every damn play Sanchez had people open multiple times and couldnt take advantage. A better quarterback takes advantage of that. Shotty isn't without fault but how can you blame him if the quarterback can't perform the offense? If he had a better quarterback in that game you'd move to shotgun sets and spread the field.
I was surprised he didnt, but after this game I'm really not. The only way they win is ball control. Put him on a team without that running game and OLine and he's average at best.
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eznark said:
To be fair he hasn't worked with a talented QB yet.
Yeah I said it
storybook77
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Rorschach said:You shut up, Storybook!
:lol
Sorry man, we've had our fair share of qb shittiness in the past too. Doug Johnson and Kurt Kittner come to mind.
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TheLegendary said:
It is his second year, development takes time. I understand this but that Packers game you could say was a team effort to lose it. :lol He missed open targets, open targets dropped passes, everyone is at fault for that loss except the D they played surprisingly well against Rogers.
It just seems to me watching that the Jets passing game is so basic until we run a two minute drill in a close game this season
against shitty teams
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Not a Jellyfish said:
If your co-ordinator had any sense at all he'd take the ball out of Sanchez' hands completely and run every down.
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DeaconKnowledge said:
I am seriously for that. :lol I know we have the weapons on offense to throw the ball this year but we have to set it up, last year in the playoffs things worked well because we just pounded the ball at people and then ran play action once the run was established. We have had so many drives this year were we throw on first or second and if it is not a completion it kills the entire drive.
It is hard to say that it is a frustrating year when you are 9-3 but it really is when your defense looks like it has taken a step or a couple steps back from last years performance and the offense isn't progressing.
You and eznark say a lot of things. Most of them are incorrectTheLegendary said:
like ezzie's opinions on race
Holmes had 1250 yards and 79 receptions in his last year with Ben in only 14.5 games (the others were with backups where he didn't do shit).
You guys might have known that if only they had Google in Iowa or wherever the hell it is that Green Bay plays.
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Talon- said:
Never let facts get in the way of blind GAF hate/rage.
Anyway, Santonio's a great player. Loved when the Steelers moved up to draft him and hated when they traded him away for nothing. However, I do not think he's number 1 WR material. He's a terrific 2 though, as long as he stays out of trouble off the field. And the Jets would be wise to use him on punt returns.
I don't think the Jets are as good as they thought, but I don't think they are as bad as they were last night. From Rex on down, they were sleep walking through that game.
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Fuck Alex Smith now starting. I think Im close to going on a rampage here soon, Kings and 49ers sucking hardcore. Only the SF Giants winning is keeping my sanity...
TheLegendary
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Not a Jellyfish said:
Yeah that's true too. His receivers certainly didn't help him out too much. Have to give him credit for his two minute performance this year.
I just think it's convenient to put the blame on the coordinator. No rookie QB has the ideal introduction to the league (except maybe AGod honestly), but in comparison Sanchez has it pretty easy. He;s got an OLine and a run game to take the pressure off of him. Hes got weapons to throw to. Maybe the coordinator doesn't help him to be his best but he's not getting him killed out there like Martz was doing with Cutler or anything egregious like that. He's got it pretty good over there...let's see how he develops.
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I can't put too much blame on Sanchez aside from the balls thrown right at defenders, that is bad decision making. Inaccuracy and happy feet he will iron out with experience.eznark said:
This is only his second season and frankly he has looked better at times than other QBs did at that point in their careers.
Five seasons in the NFL and one good one. studlybionic77 said:
I agree with Spectral (I wasn't hating on the guy I just didn't want to look him up) that Holmes is a good #2. Probably a great #2 in the right situation. He isn't in the right situation and even the best WR is useless without everything else falling into place.
I'm amused at the Pats hate and Jets fans making excuses blaming coordinators and shit. Rex is your D coordinator and you got 45 dropped on you and I see tons of blame on the O coordinator :lol I can deal with Steelers Ravens Indy and San Diego talking shit all year because they have track records of being good or great the last decade. Motherfucking Jets put all their eggs in one basket and act like they were running shit in the AFC east. Get in were you fit it in. Your team is getting worse going forward not better. Have you seen your free agents list? If you don't get it done this year your looking up at the Pats for another 3-4 years. Deal with it.
storybook77
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TheBranca18 said:
wtf? :lol
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Tom Penny said:
Mike Pettine is our defensive coordinator.
And if you think that allowing 45 points is the norm - especially when we beat you this year as well already - then you're crazy. Pats won, you guys had a fantastic game, and Jets D/O/special teams shit the bed. The established AFC superpower schooled the up-and-comer. Cool - you kicked our ass, no doubt. Yesterday was an anomaly, as it has been for 2 years with Rex and Pettine's defense. Yesterday, you were absolutely the better team.
If/when we make the playoffs, you won't beat us again - promise.
TheLegendary said:
Or you can play split safety coverage like the Pats did and hope Schottenheimer calls pass after pass even though they're conceding the run.
I've been riding Sanchez all season, his accuracy is shit, as is his decision making. Played terribly last night, but his OC is awful. Let go no-huddle, fuck it lets huddle, lets try some option, no-huddle, lets huddle. All over the place.
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