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NFL WEEK 15 |OT| Everybody Stinks
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cuevas. PhD.
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We can't do evidence jokes anymore right? 
Like all Mizzou players, you know he is poorly coached and so has a higher upside than guys from Alabama. Pinkel=Zook. Great recruiter but poor coach
One negative on Richardson is that he quit the team a couple of games early b/c he was sick of school and knew he was going pro. The coaxed him back to finish it out. So there's no telling how much Richardson is going to want to work hard and practice hard if he found sitting through class while others did his homework too taxing
We can't do evidence jokes anymore right?
Show me the evidence we can't.
Don't like the sound of that.
Who besides his wife will give a shit?
Johnathan Vima.
Allen is probably the third or so best wide receiver in the Pac 12 but his stats suffered a bit from having his mediocre cousin at quarterback. I think he pouted a bit or got hurt this season and didn't play as much.
Much like his fellow Cal alum MeSean Jackson the guy has talent but hasn't had much help and has attitude issues.
Well, in lieu of Tags undermining his authority... This won't help his image. If you want to hold people accountable without evidence of fair process, you can't go breaking rules.
The_Darkest_Red
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Oh, great. Just what the Dolphins need. Why is he being projected so high in the mock draft? There's no one who's a better fit as a number one WR in this year's draft?
We are all going to pay close attention if it is someone we know and she describes how good/bad they were in bed (the latter is obviously going to be funnier) and or penis size.
If she comes out and says Goodell has a 3 inch penis when erect I don't think he will be able to be commissioner anymore. He could get away with cheating on his wife (if they were married at the time), but no one can respect a guy with a 3 inch penis. Why do you think Alex Smith always gets benched?
Rams definitely need a safety, but they need a center fielder more than a box guy. Don't know much on Reid, but if he's got some speed and ball skills, he's what they need.
Mizzou was so terrible this year. There's a lot of negative buzz on the guy in the state, but you never know how much he was just sick of the coaches as well. One of those things you have to trust to the interview process, b/c he will definitely look amazing in all the drills
Mizzou was so terrible this year. There's a lot of negative buzz on the guy in the state, but you never know how much he was just sick of the coaches as well. One of those things you have to trust to the interview process, b/c he will definitely look amazing in all the drills
Cute.
Keep refreshing Deadspin to find out first.
yankeehater
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Yesterday the Mangenius was on Mike and Mike and he said that the Texans were super vanilla on defense and didnt try to disguise their coverages like they normally do. He thought that they were holding back for a possible playoff matchup.
Easier to just check NeoGAF.
Granted you have to wade through the threads in which grown men glorify teenage boy bands, defend porn stars, and spend hours debating the reality of movies based on comic books, but I am a seasoned pro at this point.
DeaconKnowledge
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Are you kidding me? After Bountygate and all these suspensions having the commissioner tagged with this would be a death sentence for him.
I would believe this except... The same shit happened against Gb. And the Lions. And Chad fucking Henne.
She is probably going to start promoting the book right before the Superbowl.
Back to football. Tomlin agrees our team was not prepared. :lol
Also any word on Colon? I heard he was done for the season?
Man we need some good news...
cuevas. PhD.
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You know it's not him right? Now go change your panties.
So?
The changes that most of us hate are coming from the owners. They'll just elevate some other stooge and it'll be like nothing has changed. Unless you're just looking for the tittilation and schadenfreude because he "picked on" your guy.
Wait until it comes out that Rodgers was one of her clients and he told her to pretend that she was dying of cancer and he would punch her in the stomach before he came.
DeaconKnowledge
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Colon had Surgery Monday, done for the season, though not put on IR as I understand.
David Decastro gets his first start Sunday, Foster moved to Left guard to replace Colon..
Cortez Allen injured his hp flexor, may not start Sunday. If that happens, Curtis Brown will start at left Corner and Josh Victorian or Demarcus Van Dyke may start at Nickel.
So you agree then. Cool.
Packers will just slot in the next guy. Fucking QB factory up there! I could run that offense.
It's kind of weird, but it seems like Mangini was responsible for all the defensive talent the Jets had as they made their run (and that Tannenbaum struggled to augment), and he did a good job of putting things in place in CLE. I never followed his teams to know much about him, and I know he has a bad rep, but as a casual observer, he seems far more accomplished than Lombardi, McDaniels and Pioli
Hopefully Decastro kicks ass the rest of the season. We are fucked if he is not ready to go.
And our secondary is also fucked. Romo might tear us apart. It would have been much better if we played the Browns this week.
The_Darkest_Red
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You're confusing me man, I thought the only thing that mattered in the NFL was the QB? Are you saying coaches, systems, and other players on the team actually have some part in the equation now?
Or maybe you're just that good of a QB...
Do you think Rodgers is going to ever get back to that level he was at in the 2010 playoffs and for the first 2/3s of the 2011 regular season?
Or did he peak and it is time to trade him for HoFlynn?
Need a better sifter
I think he is at that level now. Pretty tough to throw for 450 and 4 tds against constant safety clouds so he focuses on winning games. The only really poor game he has had this year was Seattle.
Shit, wait.
Fuck it who cares? Fucking clown is a cog. Harrell will come in and do it better.
Radio was saying most disappointing CB right now in Jonathan Joseph. He looked worse than Kareem on Monday.
Kinda fucked. Colts had like 10+ winning seasons and division titles with Manning and motherfucker only won 1 damn Super Bowl. Guess we'll make due with Ravens like success. String of playoff appearances, but that's that. Some intangible would have to happen like Peyton having a set back from his neck, or Brady getting hurt in one of his Modeling shoots.
The_Darkest_Red
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It kind of makes me wonder... I think it's fairly obvious by now that in today's NFL you need an elite QB to win a SB, but does that work against teams like the Texans or 49ers who have built up a strong team around the QB position? What I mean is, those teams are going to be solid regardless of who is playing QB (to a certain degree, anyway) in the regular season, but once they match up against a team with a legitimately elite QB they are probably going to struggle. The problem is, because their team is still good and the QB is doing well enough they are less inclined to make a change at that position, so I wonder if they are basically creating a ceiling for themselves that will keep them from ever winning a SB.
So, mid to long-term, would you rather be someone like the Colts or Redskins, or someone like the 49ers or Texans? Which type of team is more likely to win a SB in the next 5 or 10 years?
What about the Steelers? I mean I rather have Big Ben than Schaub but is he ELITE?
I think Steelers D helped tremendously.
This post depressed me even further
I've always knew in my heart what schaub was and had to battle captive many a times on here about the guy. But now there is tangible, factual numbers out that show dude cannot play when the bright lights are on.
Hell even grantland had an article on it yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBaHPND2QJg
I don't know how far behind I am (I'm sure it's like 6 months old for most of you) but this is great.
I don't know how far behind I am (I'm sure it's like 6 months old for most of you) but this is great.
The_Darkest_Red
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I definitely don't think the QB can do it by himself and I agree that various other factors help in varying degrees based on the team (coaches, defense, WRs, RBs, etc.) but in the case of Big Ben I'd say he is the entry point for elite status at his best.
If you look at the two years he won a SB his stats were pretty solid in the postseason. They were significantly worse in the years the Steelers didn't win the SB. I know QB Rating doesn't tell the whole story but in '05 and '08 his rating was 96.65 in the playoffs. In the other 4 seasons it averages out to 73.2.
DeaconKnowledge
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You guys are putting way too much stock into the ELITEness of a QB. An Elite QB on a garbage team is a garbage team.
Let's look at the past ten Super Bowl winners:
Giants
Packers
Saints
Steelers
Giants
Colts
Steelers
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Bucs
*
*
Not all of these teams had elite QBs, but all of them were more or less well rounded teams with good defenses.
An elite QB will put you over the top, but he should be the final piece in the makings of a complete team.
Roethlisbergers best statistical seasons are in those in which the Steelers didn't make the playoffs.
The_Darkest_Red
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No, I agree with you for the most part, and this final part is my point. Is there any motivation for a team like SF or Houston to go after an elite QB to get "over the top" when they are already good enough to get fairly close with what they've got? That's what I'm really wondering. That, and also whether or not Smith/Kap or Schaub could be enough to get it done anyway.
And I would say all of those teams you listed did have elite (or close enough) QBs minus the Bucs, but honestly the game has changed quite a bit since then, wouldn't you say?
I think you need to delineate SB winners post-2003 and the illegal contact changes. Pre-2003, teams without elite QBs could win with physical defense (Pats in '01, Bucs in '02, etc). The only teams without elite QBs that won post-2003 are the Steelers in '04 when Rapist was a rookie and they had a great defense (and also the refs in their back pocket
) and the Giants in '07 when HELMETCATCH. And even then, both Ben and Eli were solid QBs at the time, certainly not Brad Johnson level.DeaconKnowledge
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The Colts D carried Peyton Manning to his only Super Bowl title. Is he elite?
I think you need to delineate SB winners post-2003 and the illegal contact changes. Pre-2003, teams without elite QBs could win with physical defense (Pats in '01, Bucs in '02, etc). The only teams without elite QBs that won post-2003 are the Steelers in '04 when Rapist was a rookie and they had a great defense (and also the refs in their back pocket
Steelers won in 05 when Ben was in his second year. His rookie season they lost in the AFC Championship to the *.
Honestly can't remember how good the Colts D was that year. In my mind I just think it's all Peyton.
edit: Yeah I think you are right. Remembering some games now.
The_Darkest_Red
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Notice I never said winning a SB is what defines a QB as elite. I'm only talking about how important that particular piece of the puzzle is in the context of a team winning the SB. The Colts wouldn't have won that SB without Peyton.
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