I'd love to see another Canadian team back east. If Florida can sustain 2 hockey teams, Ontario should have 3. If you think a place like Markham can handle it, I can see why. I just wonder why they wouldn't go for a different city like Missassauga or something. (Yes, I know they would have to build an arena)
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NHL '12 Playoffs |OT| "The Cup is our destiny this year."
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I'd love to see another Canadian team back east. If Florida can sustain 2 hockey teams, Ontario should have 3. If you think a place like Markham can handle it, I can see why. I just wonder why they wouldn't go for a different city like Missassauga or something. (Yes, I know they would have to build an arena)
brucewaynegretzky
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I like Couts way more. I think Neal's a scumbag. The suspension isn't that aggravating to me. What annoys me is poor refereeing. I wasn't calling for a suspension on the Voracek hit either if you remember. I actually think I'm pretty consistent on this.
Crazymoogle
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I think the key phrase there is "bad enough". That's why there isn't a long line of owners already - maybe they can make a profit long-term but most billionaires aren't lining up to make an up to $150m upfront investment ($100m Leafs + $50m expansion? Maybe more?) The only way it happens is if the guerilla is big enough (ie: Rogers) or if they get it as part of a mega-development deal (which this is, although how a billionaire organization swoops in to take most of the financial brunt is a bit unclear)
Between this and the Quebecor plan should be interesting to see what happens.
I could have sworn they did. But you're right, it was probably something where Leafs ownership complained but backed down in the face of the expansion fees coming in.
Infrastructure is probably the issue. Sounds crazy, but you could probably get away with two NHL teams the same way that the Staples Center gets away with the Lakers and Clippers. Going out to Mississauga is still inside the Leafs zone, I think, but could be a tougher draw without a massive development plan.
It's just weird, Luongo us one of your stars and he's payed like it. Do you still think Schneider will be traded over him? I'd imagine at this point that Luongo would have no problem waiving whatever no trade clause he has to go somewhere that will actually use him. He can't be too happy with the organization.
wsoxfan1214
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Raffi Torres suspended indefinitely?
Which is why I expect to see Gillis bend over backwards to accommodate a trade for Lou in the offseason. The reasoning behind tonight's choice is sound, but it also exposes the goalie situation in a way that won't be resolved until one of them is gone. Biggest game of the year and Schneider is in net? Lou has to know that he's gone, and his pride would demand it.
yankeehater
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Can Lou even be traded? I thought he had a big cap number.
Heatley was traded. Lou is much more valuable than him too, I think they'll be able to find someone.
Florida :lol
We have no one to trade though.
Fixed1979
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If they actually look to move him I really wouldn't expect anything crazy in return as your options are limited when you're moving a goaltender and a 10 year contract.. Whoever would accept the contact would probably get a pretty good deal (trade wise).
Things definitely seem to be coming to a head, and as hesitant as I am to side with one or the other (I really like both), I think Luongo has to get the short end of the stick here. The kid has a cooler head when it counts, and doesn't give up on rebounds nearly as often as Luongo does. Lu seems like he's beginning to slow down in a major way.
I think the biggest reason why it hasn't been done yet is the Leafs' ability to stop a relocation/expansion in the area. If the Leafs couldn't stop a deal, there would be another team in the GTA already.
Ottawa and Toronto are too far apart for Toronto to make a claim that Ottawa was infringing. Teams are given a 50-mile radius as their "home area". Ottawa and Toronto are ~250 miles apart so they don't overlap at all.
NHL wouldn't allow this not to mention the owner of Toronto2 wouldn't want to pay rent to the Leafs and wouldn't want to give up their revenue from the luxury boxes/etc to the Leafs.
ZeroGravity
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Put Luongo on a good team in a market without the ridiculous media and fan pressure and it wouldn't surprise me if he won a Cup before the Canucks would without him. He needs a fresh start.
I think he's still a great goaltender. I just don't like his meltdowns. They don't happen often, but when they do... ugh.
Well DW never shys away from big contracts so I wouldn't be surprised. Upgrade over Niemi for sure.
Syph Medwes
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Just a little picture I cooked up for today.
He's definitely still great when the focus is there, but I'm beginning to wonder if it can be relied upon. And even if we take that focus as a given, how long can we count on consistency? If it's all in his head, one would think he'd have well exorcised his demons by now.
yankeehater
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I wonder if the Leafs would want Lou. Their goalie situation killed them this year.
Go from one market where he's criticized for everything he does to one that's even worse about that? Don't think so.
Some very good news today for the Penguins:
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/bear-may-be-moving-through-pittsburgh-631962/
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/bear-may-be-moving-through-pittsburgh-631962/
apocalidiot
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Saad's playing tomorrow
yankeehater
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I dont know how the Toronto media is but I would think they would be so happy to have a big time goalie that could hopefully get them into the playoffs, that they would shower him with love.
Until he loses a game and they lash out.
I like hearing that. I think the kid actually has a chance to make an impact in this series.
Dubbedinenglish
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Wat hell naw. We already have Markstrom coming up.
Maybe Tampa? But I'm sure the Canucks would ask Stamkos for him.
brucewaynegretzky
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Toronto would be worse than Philly by a mile. If Luongo screwed up only 10% as bad as Bryz did this year they would be calling for his head.
The media would be happy once the trade happens, as soon as he has one bad outing they will be out in full force.
apocalidiot
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He looked greaat in the preseason... but I dunno. We'll see
Awesome. Saad should be playing over guys like Brunette and Kruger anyway.
AngmarsKing701
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This. Time to clean out the garbage. You don't play by the rules, then you don't fucking play.
bonesmccoy
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He'd be accepted with open arms there. The odd meltdown is more palatable than the 82 games of awfulness we've had to suffer through since the lock-out.
Fixed1979
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Yeah I think it would only be worse in Vancouver and Montreal.
Perhaps to the fans but Toronto media is not so forgiving or forgetting.
CrazedArabMan
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I have this weird feeling both the Pens and the Canucks will win today.
brucewaynegretzky
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Not ok. I need to get fucking work done.
I feel the same way.
I think he'd be fine to stick around if Schneider were traded. Schneider's the young redheaded mistress that's less needy and with bigger titties. Bristles at her presence, but content to forget past infidelities if she's gone.
Yeah no.Dubbedinenglish said:
With how much shit is being talked, I think so too. One of them will probably even win two games before finally losing.
Knowing the 'Hawks, all you will get is an "upper body injury" statement until he is back in the lineup.
Nothing official yet.
I have this weird feeling that both series will go to 7 games.
Shhh he who must not be named will hear you. Then the destiny chants will start up again.
meh... i think Pitt is more of a mess now, but i've been waiting for the Flyers to lose for 3 games now, so what do i know. I'll go out on a limb and say that the losing team in the Pitt/Phi series will only score 2 goals.
Every team does this.
gutter_trash
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Flyers are not ones to be complacenct, even if the Penguis are down three guys on suspension plus have Fleury's moral being low, I don't think that the Flyers will take it easy thinking it to be an easy win.
Crosby doesn't have his muscle to cover for him and he may behave because his bros aren't there to save him.
Flyers need to take 1st period to burry the Pens' moral
Crosby doesn't have his muscle to cover for him and he may behave because his bros aren't there to save him.
Flyers need to take 1st period to burry the Pens' moral