Doctor West
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Cancelled my pre-order. It's fucking criminal to charge full price for this empty piece of shit. EA is disgusting.
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NHL 15 |OT| - Feature Lockout Edition
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dragonfart28
Banned
Wow.
This supposed to be the next gen experience??
This supposed to be the next gen experience??
Very informative and entertaining thread. I enjoyed the demo and my last NHL was 08, so I considered getting 15 (used, tho), but after reading this, guess I'll pass. Just whatever, can't wait for FIFA 15.
Even I noticed something was wrong with the IQ while actually playing a match. On the other hand, the cutscenes were totally fine and looked pretty next-gen actually. So the game is not 1080p native or what?
And I learned that the sales are only a 1 million copies per year. That's like nothing by EA's standards? They could ehh.. "easily" kill the whole franchise, right? I wasn't expecting massive sales, it's ice hockey after all, but I thought it would sell something like 2 million copies in NA.
Also, NHL is the top selling game here in Finland, probably selling more than Call of Duty. (I'd even say that the whole sport is so "overrated" here that it's ridiculous. It's probably almost as big as in Canada.) If they would stop making hockey games, people would probably riot or something. I'm just wondering will this affect sales here. Yeah, probably not.
It's just that it feels so strange to think that they lack resources to develop a proper next-gen version (and still the last-gen version is exactly the same as 14!!?), even after waiting for a year. The franchise is just so huge where I live, and it's EA we are talking about after all.
Even I noticed something was wrong with the IQ while actually playing a match. On the other hand, the cutscenes were totally fine and looked pretty next-gen actually. So the game is not 1080p native or what?
And I learned that the sales are only a 1 million copies per year. That's like nothing by EA's standards? They could ehh.. "easily" kill the whole franchise, right? I wasn't expecting massive sales, it's ice hockey after all, but I thought it would sell something like 2 million copies in NA.
Also, NHL is the top selling game here in Finland, probably selling more than Call of Duty. (I'd even say that the whole sport is so "overrated" here that it's ridiculous. It's probably almost as big as in Canada.) If they would stop making hockey games, people would probably riot or something. I'm just wondering will this affect sales here. Yeah, probably not.
It's just that it feels so strange to think that they lack resources to develop a proper next-gen version (and still the last-gen version is exactly the same as 14!!?), even after waiting for a year. The franchise is just so huge where I live, and it's EA we are talking about after all.
I thought the same thing last night. Why does the crowd get dead silent right before the face off after a big goal. What's when the crowd would be the loudest.
CrazedArabMan
Member
No clue what they did to the crowd sound, it just seems dead half the time, they upped the presentation for everything else but forgot that the crowd should make noise.
transformer
Member
It's all about setting up the breakout. While not ideal at all times, that forward pinching in can help you if you lose the battle for the puck, but you need to give time for them to setup the breakout. I usually pass behind the net to the other D-man and by the time he is ready to pass the forwards are in better position. There are also three breakout strategies. You can try adjusting them to see if it helps.
I know it may seem stupid, but this confirms me not buying this years offering. I am so sick of the crowd sounds being lack luster for the last couple of years (not improving them).As I said in a previous thread, just go to a Montreal playoff game if they need an example of crowds.... it kills the whole atmosphere for me. Also, the commentators they chose are my least favorite in the NHL. This being next gen, they have more Memory, and they have more disk space to save these sound files..... No! we need more flapping jerseys!!
The Elite
BOSS
The commentary is god awful. I don't normally allow myself to jump into hyperbolic statements but it's true. Whatever they use to stitch together commentary is broken and some of the quotes from Doc are garbage.
'Since the turn of the century hockey has been three periods and not two halves' or whatever it is gets on my nerves every damn time.
I don't know if they script this shit for him but it's garbage.
People complain about The Show's commentary but at least a lot of what they are saying applies to the situation and can be somewhat useful from a strategy perspective.
Also, I haven't been seeing much in terms of overlays during breaks in the game. I hope we see a lot of stats overlays on players during GM mode. I do like that every so often they feature a player and discuss his contribution.
I am actually curious to read the reviews on this one. With the amount of feature cut back I couldn't possibly give it anything above a 6.
'Since the turn of the century hockey has been three periods and not two halves' or whatever it is gets on my nerves every damn time.
I don't know if they script this shit for him but it's garbage.
People complain about The Show's commentary but at least a lot of what they are saying applies to the situation and can be somewhat useful from a strategy perspective.
Also, I haven't been seeing much in terms of overlays during breaks in the game. I hope we see a lot of stats overlays on players during GM mode. I do like that every so often they feature a player and discuss his contribution.
I am actually curious to read the reviews on this one. With the amount of feature cut back I couldn't possibly give it anything above a 6.
Lockjaw333
Member
Be strong my dude. Trailer's are finely crafted to make you think the game is awesome.
As someone with EA access and who has played like 4 play now games so far, if you played the demo you have already played this game. Honestly, the pixels just have different colors depending on the team you pick, but they all play exactly the same.
Outside of different jersey colors, the gameplay is 95% the same as NHL 09-14 and there is NOTHING else to do besides play offline against the CPU (unless you are into online 1v1).
I haven't been able to enjoy an offline game against the CPU from NHL 07-present, and its not any different this time. Just MIND NUMBINGLY stupid AI, and the way the CPU plays is so frustrating and maddening...skating in a circle to avoid your pokecheck, rifling passes through your entire defense for slot one-timers, getting EVERY loose puck, immediately retrieving pucks when you poke check them. Its all the same as its ever been.
I went through the whole shame cycle skipping last year's game. All of the steps you go through, trying to convince yourself its worth buying, that you love hockey too much, that you can make it play the way you want with sliders. Eventually I powered through and didn't buy '14, and I ended up feeling very relieved not getting angry at ridiculousness in EASHL every night and commenting on message boards about everything wrong with this series that makes it an arcadey, poor representation of hockey.
This year is simple, they made the decision for you. You don't need this game, its bringing nothing to the table. If you played the demo, you've already seen everything "new" it has to offer.
People act like this is all such a shame because this game plays great on the ice. What?! This game has always been an extremely loose representation of hockey. In short, its downright arcadey. They may have taken a few steps in the right direction gameplay wise, but its still the same core game. A lot of cognitive dissonance going on here.
At least just wait a few months. If you REALLY need hockey and want to torture yourself, buy this thing used off the scrap heap. Don't give them full asking price for it day 1.
joeygreco1985
Member
After playing a few games with the full EA access release, I have the following notes:
- The menus are BARREN. They literally did carry over almost no modes. Be a Pro, Be a GM, Play Now, HUT, and online 1 v 1. Thats it. The Relive NHL Moments mode thing is useless to me, didn't bother listing it.
- You can play the Be A GM mode like a season mode if you want to. You can assign the CPU to take care of various managerial stuff and just play the games. That's what I'm doing.
- As disappointing as the mode selection is, the gameplay itself is great, which is why I'm still going to buy the game (albeit at a discounted price thanks to the Best Buy E3 Pre-Order deal). It's clear the team phoned in everything else, but once you hit the ice the gameplay is great. I love the new graphics and physics, and I think it just plays better than NHL 13 and 14 did.
- The menus are BARREN. They literally did carry over almost no modes. Be a Pro, Be a GM, Play Now, HUT, and online 1 v 1. Thats it. The Relive NHL Moments mode thing is useless to me, didn't bother listing it.
- You can play the Be A GM mode like a season mode if you want to. You can assign the CPU to take care of various managerial stuff and just play the games. That's what I'm doing.
- As disappointing as the mode selection is, the gameplay itself is great, which is why I'm still going to buy the game (albeit at a discounted price thanks to the Best Buy E3 Pre-Order deal). It's clear the team phoned in everything else, but once you hit the ice the gameplay is great. I love the new graphics and physics, and I think it just plays better than NHL 13 and 14 did.
Grease Bits
Member
This is incredibly disappointing.
I'm sure the game play is great, but any game mode I wanted to play is gone or has been restricted in some way.
Cancelled my preorder, oh well, Destiny will be taking up much of my time anyways.
I'm sure the game play is great, but any game mode I wanted to play is gone or has been restricted in some way.
Cancelled my preorder, oh well, Destiny will be taking up much of my time anyways.
Ehhhhhh....I reallllllllly want to play hockey on my Xbox One and not have to keep swapping my 360 on to play NHL 14...but looks like this year I'm going to have to do that. That's really a bummer man.
Who's the damn creative director at EA for NHL? They should be fired. I really do hope people vote with their wallets and that EA sees that it's not that there isn't a market for video game hockey, but that it's the fact that their development decisions were absolutely weak and just flat out bad.
infinityBCRT
Member
This isn't surprising, EA always shits out previous gen games. Same thing happened with NHL 07 for PS2/PC
The Elite
BOSS
Yeah, despite all my problems with the game my discounted Best Buy E3 order is still going to be played. I usually only play Be a GM anyway and that is actually in the game.
The gameplay is pretty good too and I actually had some fun games in True Broadcast mode so I think I will be sticking to that this year.
The Elite
BOSS
They commentary is bargain basement.
http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/2014/nhl-15-game-modes
You guys read this?
So basically EA is pulling a PR stunt and saying they're going to patch the game with the lacking modes...if that really happens.
You guys read this?
So basically EA is pulling a PR stunt and saying they're going to patch the game with the lacking modes...if that really happens.
The Elite
BOSS
Yeah, this is from a while back and it's still not most modes.
Still getting it. Been playing the trial through EA access. Im really liking the actual gameplay, although at times it can be quirky and unresponsive.
Lucky for me the only two things that bother me that are missing are HUT tournaments (but whatever, will save me money and aggravation I guess) and winter classic games.
Other then that I usually just do gm mode anyways and play solo.
Lucky for me the only two things that bother me that are missing are HUT tournaments (but whatever, will save me money and aggravation I guess) and winter classic games.
Other then that I usually just do gm mode anyways and play solo.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Hey, the halo is still touching the goal line!
The Elite
BOSS
From reddit:
Wait, THERE ARE TWO NHL ARENAS NOT IN THE GAME?
Has this happened in previous iterations and I've missed it?
That's what I do in 14, I rarely played HUT or the online versus (being in Texas, I always get matched against canadians and the pings suck).
So can you play a season mode like you can in Madden 15 with just doing the GM mode and playing your team's season/playoffs/finals?
Haha.
Also, not a single crowd chant yet. May want to add that to the cut list.
edit: Looks like Game Face is out as well. So far both Madden and NHL have removed it.
Yes you can.
The worst thing about this for me is that there will be the IIHF World Championship in my country next year and of course all the retailers here know this, so they bump the price up and charge around 80 dollars for the stripped down version. And yet, everyone will still buy it here (including me probably). The hype's simply too big.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Given that FIFA 14 launched with the PS4/X1 and was absolutely stellar, I have no idea what EA's excuse is for NHL15's pathetic offerings one year later. Biggest disappointment of this new generation thus far for me.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I think FIFA's dev team has far more resources than the NHL team to make their game.
If I ranked the dev resources per franchise, I'd probably rank them this way:
1. FIFA
2. Madden
3. UFC
4. Golf
5. NHL
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Had no idea the game was missing that many features, thought it was just the EASHL stuff.
Of course I pre-ordered on PSN not sure if you can get a refund off of them.
Of course I pre-ordered on PSN not sure if you can get a refund off of them.
Jonesy7707
Member
Which PSN store? My buddy had a pre-order on the US store and spoke to the live chat support and told them he wanted to cancel due to how much content the game was missing.
They obliged after saying it's not something they normally do.
The united center hasn't been in for 3 years now. Licensing issues.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Canada, I assume the US has the same support though? I might try this then. I tried getting a refund on GTA V when the digital version had all those issues the guy on the phone told me I probably would and would put a request in and immediately got an email saying no refunds no exceptions.
Jonesy7707
Member
Worth a try at least. He also posted a link to the Operation Sports list of everything that is missing, whether they bothered to check it or not I have no idea.
bumpkin
Member
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
No idea, but the gap between Madden and FIFA is significant as well. Whatever the reason, it is clear to me that the FIFA team is far superior to any other EA Sports team. The gap in quality is astounding.
Very true. FIFA is a great game in my opinion, it's so simple to hop in and immediately start playing a season of soccer. The UI is better, and the overall atmosphere of playing a soccer game is captured in my opinion from crowds chanting to singing, etc.
In Madden, I still haven't quite got the same feeling of a energetic crowd yet like FIFA does, on top of that, the FIFA commentary is amazing.
I do think I'm gonna just stick with NHL 14 this year. No sense in paying $$ for something I'm probably going to just be frustrated with everytime I fire it up.
Cereal question: Reddit post says no season mode. Someone else said season mode exists, but is inside of GM mode.
In GM mode, can someone verify season mode is there and...
1) You can play a full season
2) There is a calendar, you can sim up to a certain date if you like, etc
3) You can still do all the line edits, AHL demotions/promotions etc
4) Your Be A Pro created player can actually be on your GM/Season mode roster.
5) A friend can take your second PS4 controller and play with you in your GM season mode.
Basically: Can I start a 2014-15 season, from day 1, as the Habs and play through and 82 game season as the Habs. Simming a scattered game here or there on a calendar, same as usual. Manage my roster, call up players from the farm for the next game in case of injury etc etc. Does this exist in the game? If it does not, i cannot buy it.
In GM mode, can someone verify season mode is there and...
1) You can play a full season
2) There is a calendar, you can sim up to a certain date if you like, etc
3) You can still do all the line edits, AHL demotions/promotions etc
4) Your Be A Pro created player can actually be on your GM/Season mode roster.
5) A friend can take your second PS4 controller and play with you in your GM season mode.
Basically: Can I start a 2014-15 season, from day 1, as the Habs and play through and 82 game season as the Habs. Simming a scattered game here or there on a calendar, same as usual. Manage my roster, call up players from the farm for the next game in case of injury etc etc. Does this exist in the game? If it does not, i cannot buy it.
I saw this article about the trailer depicting female NHL fans as not knowing anything about the sport.
http://thepinkpuck.com/2014/08/27/nhl-15-trailer-mocks-female-nhl-fans/
Maybe a little stretched, but EA should really know better. My wife played D1 hockey so this will only add fuel to the skip-nhl15-this-year fire.
http://thepinkpuck.com/2014/08/27/nhl-15-trailer-mocks-female-nhl-fans/
Maybe a little stretched, but EA should really know better. My wife played D1 hockey so this will only add fuel to the skip-nhl15-this-year fire.
Heisenberg
Member
SolidSnakeUS
Member
I honestly think they're putting more money into NBA Live than NHL... and that's saying something.
Green Yoshi
Member
Reminds me of EA Sports games for Xbox 360 at the end of 2005.
infinityBCRT
Member
wonder if they are using the big puck size for goal detection instead of the authentic size...
A Serious Man
Member
Had them say it was kicked in after the puck bounced my players chest as he was crashing the net. Pretty annoying.