SpectreFire
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I highly doubt Suter or Parise would have any inclination of going to Florida.
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NHL 2011-2012 Offseason thread of Cash Rules Everything Around Me
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sazabirules
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The Capitals signed a lot of guys playing in college. I actually might watch some college hockey in the upcoming season.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Parise maybe, but Suter wouldn't fit. His hypothetical contract would something to the tune on 15 milli tied up in a 1st pairing on D. Makes no sense when we also have to extend Kulikov(RFA) this year. Semin would be an amazing fit with Huberdeau and Jokinen.
SpectreFire
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James Van Riemsdyk: Dream Maker
ZeroGravity
Member
I don't think it's really an issue of fit or not. The Panthers organization has just been far too unstable for too long. Big players generally want to go to places where there's a perceived better chance of winning, security, and exposure.
Who is Colin Wilson and since when is he a first line center?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
There is a lot different about the orgination and this year showed it. Look at Versteeg or Flash or Campbell or Goc. All of those guys were deep in teams' depth rosters but came to FLA and got their recognition and their minutes and are all pretty secure. Tallon brings that stability because of what he did to CHI. I think FLA is on the minds of FAs because of that.
Edit: Which is why Semin would be great fit. He is high end skill but was in the shadow of Ovie and Backstrom. He wants to be the "go-to" guy and he would get all of that in FLA.
ZeroGravity
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I agree with you, but that perception is still out there. The Panthers signed a lot of quality players last year, but none of them were really stars. I think they're going to need to compete at a higher level for a few years and stay there to really shake their history.
Not that it truly matters - you don't absolutely need to sign superstar UFAs to win. Drafting and trading smart are much more important.
bonesmccoy
Banned
I liked Schenn, but he couldn't pass the puck to save his life. It got to the point where the other team would simply sit back and wait for him to do something brainless with the puck. I hope he turns out for Philly all the same, he seemed a good kid.
I wouldn't know JVR if he was sitting on my knee. I guess he is an improvement over the dreadful Kulemin - for the second line.
I wouldn't know JVR if he was sitting on my knee. I guess he is an improvement over the dreadful Kulemin - for the second line.
SpectreFire
Member
NBA coaching legend Phil Jackson says Hockey better than Basketball.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e...playoffs-over-nba-more-fun-much-more-exciting
WHEN'S SOC BACK, WE NEED TO SEND A TEAM THROUGH TO NBA-GAF
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e...playoffs-over-nba-more-fun-much-more-exciting
WHEN'S SOC BACK, WE NEED TO SEND A TEAM THROUGH TO NBA-GAF
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
There is a Catch-22 there. With 18 OTLs the lack of high talent hurts most in the shoot out. If we converted 1/2 of those the Panthers would be 100+ point team this year.
Campbell turned out to be a star and Versteeg was on pace too but that injury to his hip slowed him down since Dec. We traded Boothe away and there went the only reliable scorer on the team. The prospect pool is the best in the league with Huberdeau and Markstrom and Bjustard, Shore, Howden etc etc. Those will take time though
The Cats need that high end talent to compete and is the one price from making us to deep playoff team.
AngmarsKing701
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James Van Riemsdyk: Dream Maker
That's 3 of the 4 brothers, JVR (provided Jared can make the team). The youngest brother is also in the Canes' system.
KingHenrik30
Member
Jared's never playing in the NHL
Pics please.
AngmarsKing701
Member
NBA coaching legend Phil Jackson says Hockey better than Basketball.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e...playoffs-over-nba-more-fun-much-more-exciting
WHEN'S SOC BACK, WE NEED TO SEND A TEAM THROUGH TO NBA-GAF
Phil Jackson to coach Toronto confirmed.
AngmarsKing701
Member
You're probably right... but maybe all 3 of them will hit the ice in a pre-season game.
Just for the lulz.
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
Maybe he and Jonathan Toews' brother can go start their own league?
http://web.stagram.com/n/pmgypsy/
Along with Kessel's brother? I don't actually know if he's any good or not.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Raffi Torres as "He hate me 2."
Dastardly Jerks
Banned
I'm Rob Neidermayer, XHL Vice President of Hockey and Business Development and head disciplinarian.
On August 22nd at 7:45pm, Paul Pronger of the Slave Lake Raiders performed a leaping headshot into Brett Gretzky. We thought it was awesome, but Paul failed to do his Power Pose afterwards, resulting in a lack of flair. We have decided to fine Paul $50 and suspend him from participating in the XHLs annual County Fair.
On August 22nd at 7:45pm, Paul Pronger of the Slave Lake Raiders performed a leaping headshot into Brett Gretzky. We thought it was awesome, but Paul failed to do his Power Pose afterwards, resulting in a lack of flair. We have decided to fine Paul $50 and suspend him from participating in the XHLs annual County Fair.
Bahahaha! Should I be ashamed that I know exactly what you're talking about???
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
yankeehater
Member
Why? The XFL was great, it is so sad that it didnt take off. All the soap opera stuff sucked but the actually football was so good.
and how much he gave up for gomez
I did like it more than the NFL but then again I'm not a big NFL fan.
yankeehater
Member
The hitting was amazing, the biggest hit I have ever seen in a football game was the hit that Jeff Brohm took while playing in the XFL. The XFL was like a not ass good version of the USFL.
More Pens beat rumours...
http://triblive.com/mobile/msports/...defenseman-free-million-salary-believe-market
Short version:
-Pens aggressively shopping Martin.
-Crosby trying to lure Parise. Apparently, they're good friends.
-Pens want both, Suter and Parise but will not front-load contracts.
-Pens expected to sign Crosby for life between 9-10 million a season
http://triblive.com/mobile/msports/...defenseman-free-million-salary-believe-market
Short version:
-Pens aggressively shopping Martin.
-Crosby trying to lure Parise. Apparently, they're good friends.
-Pens want both, Suter and Parise but will not front-load contracts.
-Pens expected to sign Crosby for life between 9-10 million a season
yankeehater
Member
LOL. I didnt have a chance to comment on it earlier but I am sad to see JVR go. He showed flashes of being great but I am worried about his attitude. Glad that they got a physical defenseman back for him. That was by far their biggest need. I dont like the idea of having 2 brothers on the team but hopefully it will work out.
They won't get either if they won't budge on this. No player who can dictate their contract terms is going to take a "fair" contract with an impending lockout. They're both going to get major signing bonuses ($5-10M) to cover them for the 2012-13 season.
NBA coaching legend Phil Jackson says Hockey better than Basketball.
http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/e...playoffs-over-nba-more-fun-much-more-exciting
WHEN'S SOC BACK, WE NEED TO SEND A TEAM THROUGH TO NBA-GAF
For Socreges...
Did Ryan only want to go to Philly because he wanted to play with JVR? Or is he from there?
A 2 year contract?
yankeehater
Member
I think they did the 1 for 1 since he is hurt now and needs surgery, plus he hasnt been able to put a full season together. I would love for the Flyers to get Ryan but I dont see how it could happen.
JVR was part of the package that was offered, I believe. He live there for a bit.
Ryan's family has ties with Paul Holmgren. His dad's also nearby still in prison I believe.
You never know. I think the conversation he and Murray have is going to decide his future in Anaheim...
I doubt his dad is a deciding factor in him moving there... unless they've patched things up.
I know. I'm merely pointing it out. But I think he'd be eager to be traded to Philly primarily for his personal ties with Paul Holmgren.
yankeehater
Member
I hope you are right. I think he would be a great fit with the Flyers. I think they will bring in 1 more defenseman and a backup goalie and call it a day, maybe sign Jagr if he will take about the same.
Going to Socreges it up a bit but I wouldn't use the word "eager". More like frustrated with always being on the end of trade talks when shit hits the fan with the team. And who can blame him, really.
I backtracked and changed that to "he'd be eager". But you're right, "frustrated" is the right word for it. A guy who contributed positively for his team and still getting the shaft by being trade bait is probably really disheartening.
I should add: I read about Ryan's story a few months ago, and I have a lot more respect for the guy since. Not that I didn't like him, but I never really thought of him as having this troubled past considering that wasn't the story media played with (which is a good thing).
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