Not if the NHL doesn't apply for control of them. This is news to me though. I wasn't aware that the Nordiques name/trademarks were ever given up by the Avs..
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NHL 2011-2012 Offseason thread of Cash Rules Everything Around Me
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BigJonsson
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More than the Coyotes and at a higher price
BigJonsson
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The Marlies tweeted me back saying the games are at Ricoh
Ah well... I think it would have been better to go to the ACC... Far more accessible than Ricoh (it takes me less time to get to the ACC than Ricoh, and Ricoh is way closer to me lol)
BigJonsson
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Yea, Ricoh is a pain in the ass to get to
Tickets are on sale at noon tomorrow, I'm going to try for game 3 or 4 tickets
I guess it's a little hard to get anything because players, agents, etc are likely not in contact right now as there is no real purpose to be unless they are pending FAs, likely vacationing. Maybe hear stuff around draft or August-ish in the lead up to preseason.
brucewaynegretzky
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Um, Luongo's agent is almost certainly in contact with management regularly right now.
BigJonsson
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Dreger and Kypreos are too busy covering the Memorial Cup to do anything "useful"
SpectreFire
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I'm pretty sure the fact that Schultz just started the process that will turn him UFA pretty much confirms he won't be signing with the Ducks. They have 30 days to exclusively negotiate with him, but the fact that he's gotten this far without signing a contract, and that he's starting his UFA process means he probably has zero intentions of staying with the Ducks.
Schultz can pretty much play on any team he wants, I just don't see the Ducks having anything that could convince him to stay. Toronto has Gardiner, Edmonton will put him in the top 2, potentially with Murray, Vancouver's got the hometown angle and will be a cup contender for a good while.
brucewaynegretzky
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Nah Luongo's comments gave a lot of credibility towards it. I actually don't doubt that he'll stay, but more likely because they won't be able to get adequate value for that contract.
No, I think he's probably gone. I just found it difficult to believe that he'd so quickly put together a top 5 and let it slip to the media, or that the Canucks had so quickly requested it of him.
Man, finishing thes series yesterday was a very important accomplishment for the Marlies. If they can get at least 2-3 of their injured forwards back in time for the finals, I think they'll have a legitimate chance to win the cup.
A fourth line of Orr-Rosehill-Engel (defenceman on an AHL contract) was an interesting experiment, but I hope Eakins never has to do it again.
A fourth line of Orr-Rosehill-Engel (defenceman on an AHL contract) was an interesting experiment, but I hope Eakins never has to do it again.
This has got to be the most overrated factor ever.
BigJonsson
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Got tickets to game 3 of the Calder Cup
Do I wear my Leafs jersey lol
Cool, Dustin Tokarski and Keith Aulie are on the Admirals lol
Do I wear my Leafs jersey lol
Cool, Dustin Tokarski and Keith Aulie are on the Admirals lol
Rafa=FedKilla
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This brah needs to be forced to play for the Ducks and the next CBA needs to fix this fucking loophole.
This x10
So, apparently a beat writer in Minnesota believes that Schultz has already decided who to sign with, and that the Ducks will immediately accuse the team he signs with of tampering.
His guess: Toronto
This definitely sounds like bullshit to me, because (1) Burke would never tamper (2) Burke and Murray are as close as two rival GMs can get and (3) How the hell would a Minnesota-based beat reporter have inside information about a Ducks prospect that plays in Wisconsin?
I'm sure Gardiner has been advising his buddy to sign in T.O but there's no rule against that.
EDIT: Also, expect Schultz to refrain from signing with anybody until his birthday on July 6th. At 22 years old, he can supposedly sign a two year entry level deal rather than a three year deal.
His guess: Toronto
This definitely sounds like bullshit to me, because (1) Burke would never tamper (2) Burke and Murray are as close as two rival GMs can get and (3) How the hell would a Minnesota-based beat reporter have inside information about a Ducks prospect that plays in Wisconsin?
I'm sure Gardiner has been advising his buddy to sign in T.O but there's no rule against that.
EDIT: Also, expect Schultz to refrain from signing with anybody until his birthday on July 6th. At 22 years old, he can supposedly sign a two year entry level deal rather than a three year deal.
Tabris said:
Here were my predictions before the season started (bolded are the ones that came true).
Stamkos expanded his game. Near the end of last year, I thought everyone had figured out that one timer from the left side as they were shutting him down pretty good, but he came back from last year with a better game.
Third to Last and Last are the most depressing. Third would have been true without the injury to Daniel (and probably last). I think we should all make some guesses/predictions before the beginning of next season, see what we were right and wrong with.
Lol accusing the leafs of tampering...
You traded away gardiner, if he convinces schultz... Well it's your own damned fault lol would make signing beauchemin the best free agency signing the leafs ever made if true
Edit : leafs also have a 4th round pick from Anaheim in the beauchemin deal in the next draft... From the way things are going... That pick might be as good as 1st overall lol
You traded away gardiner, if he convinces schultz... Well it's your own damned fault lol would make signing beauchemin the best free agency signing the leafs ever made if true
Edit : leafs also have a 4th round pick from Anaheim in the beauchemin deal in the next draft... From the way things are going... That pick might be as good as 1st overall lol
KernelPanic
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What's the deal with Schultz? I haven't been following anything prospect related since the playoffs started. Anyone want to give me a layman's terms breakdown?
3. Something something Toronto
Kessel got so close to 40. Regardless, he had career highs in goals, assists, and points overall. Ain't even mad. Plus, Lupul getting injured and Carlyle changing things up may have had an effect on him.
Not the smartest move on the part of Leafs TV and Ron Wilson (from an earlier incident). I did enjoy their draft documentary, though.
Tampering is such bullshit. It happens in every sport yet for some reason one or two cases get made into a big deal. How the fuck do players sign as soon as free agency is open? Do people really think they make decisions that are going to affect their life and families in 30 minutes?
SpectreFire
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2nd round draft pick of the Ducks. Due to some loophole in the CBA, he's able to burn all his RFA years and enter the summer as an UFA while still being 19.
He's currently one of the best defensive prospects in the league, being referred to as even better than Jake Gardiner. He's also NHL ready and can slot into the top 4 on most teams.
Finally, he still has to sign an ELC, so 3 years at 900,000.
I'm glad you found that funny. It's probably true, though. (I mean tampering as in attempting to directly influence the decisions of players who are part of other organizations, specifically. The term is much broader than I initially thought, if the link KernelPanic posted is anything to go by.)
Was just laughing at "never", as if you've got an intimate knowledge of his moral compass and his dealings in the NHL through the last fifteen years.
Dastardly Jerks
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You could almost smell Schultz's Anaheim career go up in smoke the day that Gardiner was dealt away. And what a blow to our future that will be...
But to know (as solid fact when, there's enough evidence) that Burke didn't abide by the rules, and tampered, will consequently be a real source of frustration for years to come. It'll be emotionally blown out of proportion from my end simply as a way for me to vent my whole frustration about losing two fantastic D.
Let's face facts: He was probably going to go where Gardiner went regardless. The writing was on the wall. But to think that Burke wouldn't have the decency to just wait til draft day then make it official will encourage me as a Ducks fan to wag my finger disapprovingly at Toronto as a whole, since it pretty much is the embodiment of this whole situation in the first place.
tl;dr - I'm feeling like I'm going to overreact emotionally if this is true.
BigJonsson
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Hmmm
Leafs getting better at the expense of the Ducks
I'm conflicted, slightly
Leafs getting better at the expense of the Ducks
I'm conflicted, slightly
Dastardly Jerks
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Also I know Bryz is joking, but having a +1 that does pole fitness competitively has opened my eyes to how athletic a sport it is. People think 'pole' and straight away think of strippers and dollar bills flying everywhere, when really it's more like an advanced form of gymnastics that requires absolute perfection in their technique as well as months of training and skin conditioning to pull off any advanced trick properly. I would've thought that Cirque Du Soliel made that slightly obvious to everyone by now.
And it's definitely not just for girls either...
Hell even some contortion training (a requirement of any pole performer) with him would probably make him more worth his contract...
And it's definitely not just for girls either...
Hell even some contortion training (a requirement of any pole performer) with him would probably make him more worth his contract...
Sometimes I think Carlo colaiacovo let's his identical twin brother Paulo stand in for him
Murray and Burke are like besties though. Honestly I feel if Burke truly wants Schultz he'd give something of decent value back to Murray.
Yeah but as far as Burke is concerned... Schultz is an Anaheim player going to be UFA
What's the point of trading for his rights when he isn't talking to Anaheim?
He's almost 100% guaranteed going to UFA, and with having gardiner on board, plus the GM who drafted him on board I'm sure Burke will just wait
If he comes via free agency, Anaheim isn't owed anything
Yes it sucks... Very badly for Anaheim simply because how brutally awful the beauchemin trade was... Add in this and Anaheims staff should be gutted simply because they let two TOP D prospects walk for beauchemin
It was Anaheims Rask deal. It's going to be burned in the minds of ducks fans everywhere... Just like how leafs fans blood boils when you bring up raycroft/Rask
Well, if the tampering thing turns out to be true, I don't blame you. Remember, though, that the Leafs were just a guess. If this reporter is right, Anaheim is preparing a tampering case against whichever team Schultz signs with, which implies that their case is speculative rather than based on specific facts.
Honestly though, I expect Schultz to sign with Edmonton/Vancouver/Toronto and nothing more to come of it. This situation pretty much mirrors the Bill Sweatt contract issue, and neither Chicago nor Toronto filed tampering charges even though it was pretty evident that Sweatt chose his team beforehand.
KernelPanic
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Who'd stand in for this ?
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/05/s...million-and-draft-pick-in-tampering-case.html
Years ago, St. Louis got busted for tampering with Scott Stevens while he was still under contract with New Jersey. I imagine this stuff happens all the time but it's really hard to prove.
Pierre LeBrun confirms that Therrien, Hartley and Crawford have all interviewed in Montreal.
I feel ill. If it absolutely has to be one of these three, please be Therrien. The other two would be two steps backwards after the steps forward we've taken with Bergevin/Dudley.
I feel ill. If it absolutely has to be one of these three, please be Therrien. The other two would be two steps backwards after the steps forward we've taken with Bergevin/Dudley.
Who'd stand in for this ?
I hate that face, honestly.
Hartley has the same coaching style as Martin did and, while that defensive-systems-oriented style brought us success for a time under Martin, I really do not want a redux of that get-a-one-goal-lead-then-choke-the-life-out-of-the-opponent style. I want to be forechecking hard, whether we're down by 2 or up by 2.
Meh, it's not like there are a lot of great, french speaking coaches available. I don't see Bergevien hiring someone that will put the team in the same position it's been while under Martin.
Shawinigan and London going into the 3rd tied 1-1 right now.
Shawinigan and London going into the 3rd tied 1-1 right now.
what is so special about him?
profile on hartley: http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/03/23/profiles-in-coaching-bob-hartley/
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