Simon Belmont
Banned
Pacioretty would be too busy hiding behind the refs, but even if they did, do you actually think it's possible to hurt this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iJpcdRQr7Q
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NHL February 2013 |OT| A Black History Month "Miracle in the Making"
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Pacioretty would be too busy hiding behind the refs, but even if they did, do you actually think it's possible to hurt this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iJpcdRQr7Q
I woke up Sunday and my phone was assaulted from these assholes.
Solo said:
I'm not worried about Eller, he's just in a weird position with there being too many centers, and starting at the beginning of the season he was at the bottom of the totem pole. Although Friedman mentioned last week he talked to Bergevin when he first got hired and he had said Eller's name was the one that came up most when people were asking who was available...
Lol wut? He's consistently been one of the nicest dudes in hockey....I can't believe how fiercely Leaf fans are trying to defend Grabo's actions, it's embarrassing.
I am now Kwik_Man.
Leafs are pussies. It fits.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Lol, wut? Probably the whiniest player in the league, spears Chara after scoring an overtime goal then hides behind his teammates and the refs. Dirty hit on Letang. I get that Habs fans rallied around him after Chara ran him into the stanchion, but he's far from saintly.
I guess that makes the Habs mice?
Of Mice and Men. The Leafs are Lennie.
Simon Belmont
Banned
And the Bell center is the fatta' the land!
He pushed Chara, didn't spear him, and the hit on Letang was a clean open ice hit where he had his head down. Just stop please. If you're going to attempt to slander a player at least make sure the shit you're saying can't be contradicted in seconds on youtube.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
It's pathetic to me how Habs fans can't see it from Grabo's POV. So if you're playing and suddenly someone wraps their arm around your face, your hands being tied up elsewhere and they're twisting your head backwards awkwardly while you can't breathe, wouldn't you panic?
1) He can't drop the gloves when his hands are tied up.
2) He can't breathe
3) His head is being twisted backwards
4) He clearly looked (justifiably) panicked
Don't want to get bit? Don't do the shit. Stop being a homer and look at it logically and I guarantee you most of you would have done anything required to be able to breathe again, including biting.
1) He can't drop the gloves when his hands are tied up.
2) He can't breathe
3) His head is being twisted backwards
4) He clearly looked (justifiably) panicked
Don't want to get bit? Don't do the shit. Stop being a homer and look at it logically and I guarantee you most of you would have done anything required to be able to breathe again, including biting.
Simon Belmont
Banned
He pushed Chara, didn't spear him, and the hit on Letang was a clean open ice hit where he had his head down. Just stop please. If you're going to attempt to slander a player at least make sure the shit you're saying can't be contradicted in seconds on youtube.
Sorry, you can call it a push if you want, but provoking an opposing teams player after scoring a goal and then hiding is a rat move.
The other thing is that if his mouth was at all open when he got grabbed, clamping the jaw down would be an involuntary reaction to prevent the jaw from being dislocated. The human jaw has very little 'side to side' strength when it's open.
Hahaha so now it goes from a spear to "call it a push if you want"? It's clearly a small push, and there's a huge difference between a push and a spear in case you weren't aware.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Vast majority of the Habs fan around various hockey sites make it seem like Grabovski should be suspended and act like he killed a person. Wasn't talking about you.
There's no reason to suspend and his actions were completely understandable is all I'm saying.
Good point.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Hey, why don't we get back to this when you can locate the point.
Would have loved to have your very clear and objective analysis of when Burrows bit Bergeron.
The one where you create false claims to try and make Pacioretty look like something he's not?
Simon Belmont
Banned
Don't make this an internet argument. The point is that he provoked Chara and ran away. You have yet to respond to that in any way other than nit picking the language I used.
That's not something the "nicest person in the league" would do.
So now pushing a guy in a scrum makes you a dirty player? I guess 95% of the players in the league are dirty rats. It was an OT winner and he went to celebrate with his teammates and Gill got involved before anything could happen, that's not running away. I'm nit picking the language you're using because it's all completely false. I just don't understand why you would choose Pacioretty of all Hab players to go on this crusade.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Probably because Pacioretty is the guy who stuck his arm in somebodies mouth then bitched to the refs and media endlessly when he got bit.
Also, since we're getting so caught up in making sure we're being correct in how we're calling things, this is what you call "pushing a guy in a scrum"?
http://youtu.be/Yid7xYQLkrU?t=16s
That's not nit picking. Is there not a massive difference between spearing and pushing?
1) His hands weren't tied up.
2) He probably could breathe - assuming he can't is silly.
3) His head was not being twisted backwards.
4) He didn't look panicked, he looked rabid.
People in the Toronto media (that I've seen) aren't even going to the lengths that some of you are. They agree, like reasonable people would, that biting is not an option. But they're claiming that there's no evidence and maybe it didn't happen -- really?
I don't follow the Leafs or the Habs. All I know is that some guy might have bit some other guy's hand in a hockey game and the league was looking into it. That's not overblown, that's the league doing their job.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Not really as far as my point is concerned. The crux of my argument isn't putting a fine definition on exactly what happened to provoke Chara. The exact specifics of that aren't really important to my point. The point I'm making is that provoke him he did, and then man up and drop the gloves he didn't.
The NHL has to work with tangible evidence. They probably believe that Grabovski did bite Pacioretty, but since they can't actually prove it without a shadow of a doubt, no discipline. I'm just surprised by the Leafs fans that apparently believe in their heart of hearts that there was no wrongdoing by Grabovski.
Simon Belmont
Banned
If you stick your arm in my mouth, I'm probably going to bite you. That's all I'm saying.
God help me for siding with Red_Man, but you were trying to argue that Pacioretty was a "rat" and after your post had its dressing removed, all that was left was that Pacioretty pushed Chara and then went on to celebrate his goal. *shrug*
No doubt you guys want to paint the accuser, Pacioretty, in a bad light. But I'm not seeing how he's a "rat".
Pacioretty's arm was in Grabovski's mouth? Jesus, that did not show up on video.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Shut up all of you.
Simon Belmont
Banned
Oh sure, so now he didn't bit him? MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
My point is that he didn't have to push him. He did it to rub it in, and then was conspicuously absent when Chara came knocking. If you're going to provoke guys then disappear when they come knocking, you're a rat.
Which came first, the arm or the teeth?!
I'd definitely agree that one incident where you push a guy to provoke him but aren't truly willing to face the consequences is 'ratty' (classless). But that doesn't make him a rat.Simon Belmont said:
Welcome back from your ban!!!!
This is my point, I haven't complained that he didn't get suspended because I understand how the league approaches this, I just don't get why Leaf fans refuse to admit Grabvoski may have done something wrong.
Simon Belmont
Banned
I'm comfortable meeting there.
If evolution is true, how come my arms aren't teeth by now?
Can we agree that they're both wrong? Biting is bad and so is grabbing somebody by the face?
SuperSonic1305
Member
I love you too. Perry for Komisarek and a 7th? Ok.
gaming_noob
Member
Yes or no?
Simon Belmont
Banned
I would from the Leafs perspective.
From an account that looks like it started tweeting a few hours ago, seems legit.
But, it's definitely something I would consider.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
It's cute how you bring up a matter entirely unrelated to the subject. I don't care about either team in this scenario, thus I have no vested interest and put out a perfectly rational explanation as to why I thought it was the right call.
You then proceed to bring up something completely unrelated to try to "discredit" me or something? Try harder next time with something that makes sense instead of bullshitting with something irrelevant like a three year old.