Therrien definitely ruined his trade value, and Bergevin moved him at his lowest point, but I don't get why people are so upset about the return. Even if Bergevin traded him at his peak he wouldn't get much for him. Not many teams want a guy as small as Diaz as a 4th D-man. That being said the timing is still terrible, and Therrien still needs to be fired.
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NHL February 2014 |OT| The A on Dustin Brown's jersey stands for Asshole
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Fata1moose
Banned
Why in the hell would Avs vs Devils be a national game? Of all of the teams we play against, 2001 was a long time ago.
Coldnoodle
Member
It's going to be a great experience for Tatar, Jurco and Nyquist. Not really worried about the health of anyone but Datsyuk either. He still plans on playing 1 or 2 games before the break, but I'd be surprised if he does.
T.M. MacReady
NO ONE DENIES MEMBER
sigh, Vanek, pls.
pls understan
pls understan
Meh, 4 years left and he can hit free agency.
ZeroGravity
Member
#StamkosWatch
Stamkos is targeting his return for this Saturday against Detroit.
Stamkos is targeting his return for this Saturday against Detroit.
holy shit
Then why trade Diaz at all?! He is an effective player on our defence and Bergevin needs to sack up and waive Murray and Bouillon whether Therrien likes them or not. Those players are shit and they are dragging the whole defense corp down with them.
It's not really about the return for Diaz as much as it is about what it says about the thought processes of the management of this team. We have a good player that isn't being utilized properly by the coach so his trade value has tanked. Like you said even at his peak value Diaz isn't going to get us very much. The only reason to trade Diaz is if you have no intention of resigning him in the off season and considering the rest of the Montreal defence right now, I don't see a good reason to let him walk just because the coach is an idiot. You don't improve a team by letting good players go and signing worse ones.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
RIP in peace, Crazed :'(
bonesmccoy
Banned
I had a family of rats invade my car and make a nest under the hood just this past November. It was horrible, but thankfully my supplemental insurance covered the replacement parts and clean up.
I use glue traps because (1) they won't attract birds or larger animals and (2) they're extremely effective - both as an agent of revenge and as a pest control tool.
So I don't blame Vanek, or really anyone, for wanting to gtfo of Nassau.
CrazedArabMan
Member
Cool, Detroit not only gets to lose to Tampa again, but while also watching Stamkos play in his first game since being injured, can't wait!
Great. Just great. Tortorella tonight, Stamkos saturday? What about the Panthers on thursday? Getting Bure back?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
They're moving to the Barclay's center next year right?
CrazedArabMan
Member
Panther's beat us just fine with their current roster. Bure would just make a 10-0 game or something.
Make sure you let Stamkos score a hattrick too, needs his confidence high before the Olympics.
I agree with every you've said pretty much. Coaching and management completely misused him as an asset, and their treatment of Murray is beyond ridiculous. He should be waived and not playing, but it's obvious Therrien loves him. I just don't think it's the end of the world like a lot of Hab fans are pretending it is.
If only the mere absence of Torts was the cause of our struggles
Real pleased at the Habs fans in-fighting about Diaz. Real pleased
Season after next.
bonesmccoy
Banned
I think it's pretty clear:
Diaz will be a UFA soon and was a useless cap hit. Rather than lose him for nothing (via free agency or waivers), Bergevin manages to get create cap space and get a controllable asset who also happens to be fairly decent and young bottom-line winger.
Nothing that Bergevin has done has been "end of the world", but there has been a clear pattern of shitty moves that doesn't appear to be getting any better and I'd rather it stop sooner than later. With moves like this, if the team keeps backsliding the way they are, I don't trust Bergevin to not eventually pull the trigger on a panic trade that really will hurt this team in the long run.
Diaz makes a grand total of 1.3 million. That's 200k LESS than what Murray and Bouillon make. We've cleared up 600k-ish in cap space, but there are much better ways that we could have done that.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
And here all you Habs fans called him the saviour when he came. 
He had to have done something right?
Personally, I thought he started off wrong by bringing Therrien back.
He had to have done something right?
Personally, I thought he started off wrong by bringing Therrien back.
I SAW YOUR EDIT BONES! I SAW IT!
I was responding to your second point about Carlyle and I just want to say while I don't agree with how he handles the roster the majority of the time if you sit back and think about it he's pushed a lot of our players to a new level with his tough love.
He's the one who pretty much demanded if Kadri was here he has to play center and not the wing. Last season he used him well and he thrived and now he's trying to push him into being a bonafide top 6 player on this team.
He chirped JVR all the time to play more in front of the net despite JVR being against it.
He's got Kessel backchecking more than he ever did under Wilson.
Lupul doesn't want to play LW but he's been more productive on that side.
I was responding to your second point about Carlyle and I just want to say while I don't agree with how he handles the roster the majority of the time if you sit back and think about it he's pushed a lot of our players to a new level with his tough love.
He's the one who pretty much demanded if Kadri was here he has to play center and not the wing. Last season he used him well and he thrived and now he's trying to push him into being a bonafide top 6 player on this team.
He chirped JVR all the time to play more in front of the net despite JVR being against it.
He's got Kessel backchecking more than he ever did under Wilson.
Lupul doesn't want to play LW but he's been more productive on that side.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
We did just get Barkov back.
Pretty much. Diaz won't be a top 4 guy on the Canucks or any other team looking for a cup run. They were never going to get more then a 3rd/4th line player or 5th round pick. Would I have preferred Diaz stay or Murray? Sure. But as long as Therrien is employed Murray is playing.
I'm not happy with any moves he's made since the Cole / Ryder trade, but he hasn't given up any prospects or picks either. He's repeatedly said he refuses to give up future assets and he wants to build a team through the draft. He's doing that right now, even if the trades and signings he's done have been shit. Habs aren't a contender and won't be for another 2 years or so. By then the team will be made up of mostly guys from the inside and the Brieres, Murrays, and Bouillions will be gone.
Yeah, he hasn't traded away picks or prospects, but he also hasn't done anything to make the team any better than it was when he took over. I prefer my GMs to be able to outperform a rock.
bonesmccoy
Banned
You saw nothing!
I think Carlyle changed something with his approach after that meeting with Nonis.
And Smithson getting called up at McKegg's expense is totally fine.
Unhandled Exception
Member
The Geforce GTX on the side of this card lights up. IT LIGHTS UP.
Freyjadour
Member
Just don't turn on the red leds, my brother died that way.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Could use another grabo,.....
I've never been so disgusted and upset by an NHL-GAF post before, except for that time Smelly was racist to Oprah.
My brain refuses to even try to parse that out. There was rats, and a car, and then
Lars Eller for Clarkson
sick font seems legit
THE TANK IS ON!
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Kessler for Payton Manning!
I'd do this and throw in a 2nd. He has potential but may need a change of scenery. Maybe all that those French girls and that rich French food
Lol every time I see a rumour site like this I wonder why GAF doesn't have it's own wishful thinking/pull-out-of-ass rumour page.
I'll go first: rumour has it the Winnipeg Jets are about to pull the trigger and trade rock-solid stay at home defensive rock Mark "Shutdown" Stuart to the Canadiens for underachieving rover Lars Eller. Come on, Denmark? That can't work. Stuart is a good American beauty from like Rochester. In fact, sources say the Habs may need to throw a 2nd/3rd in to sweeten the deal once Cheveldayoff gets a peek at Eller's disappointing boxcar.
bonesmccoy
Banned
They ate through the seat-belts even.
Pooped in the air system.
I can't use rat poison because of my dog and kids. I used snap traps but then a bird triggered one and I felt like a monster.
Glue traps. They are cruel tho - especially when you happen upon the rat while it's still alive.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Dammit Jim! He's a doctor, not a butcher!
I would literally have the car towed to an empty field and burned. Would never set foot it in again, hell I probably wouldn't come with 20 feet of it again, except to toss the burning torch into the window onto the gas soaked rear seat in what would definitely be the most cathartic moment of my life.
TRADE TALKS ARE HEATING UP
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
When I lived in Miami we had rats that nested in the tops of the palm trees. Huge demon rats, than would descend into the backyard to look for food. I remember them keeping me up night because they would scurry on the rocks in the flower beds and through the shrubs. We got glue traps but the bastards were so big they would initially knock the the traps of the carpet tape and get enough dirt and rocks in the traps to escape or eat through the bottom. We had to drill them into pieces of 2 x 4s and moor them to the concrete walls. Eventually through the traps and shooting some with BBs afterwards, they were killed. The biggest was a grey rat somewhere near a foot long from snout to tail that weighed a few pounds. We were held hostage from the backyard for an entire summer.
MY FRIENDS UNCLE WHO KNOWS A GUY WHO KNOWS A GUY JUST CONFIRMED THAT THE DALLAS STARS WILL GET THE BEST PLAYER AT EVERY POSITION FOR FREE FROM EVERY TEAM THAT EACH PLAYER PLAYS FOR.
I thought he died from walking barefoot!